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Dreamhack 2011 SC2 Tournament
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close to the edge
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Agreed. Day9 has done so much for the community, his Dailies are invaluable for many, many players (like me). And I don't think any human can hate him after watching his Daily #100.darkpaladinmfc said:
Totalbiscuit has improved a lot too. He is a great SC2 caster now imo. It was a bit sad he was tucked away somewhere casting his games :]
Day9 is an entertainer with his own show on youtube and a very enthusiastic guy when it comes to Starcraft. But that doesn't automatically make you a good commentator. Not hating on him, I usually don't mind him but during this event he was a little too enthusiastic to a point where it was unpleasant to listen to.
Day9 is an entertainer with his own show on youtube and a very enthusiastic guy when it comes to Starcraft. But that doesn't automatically make you a good commentator. Not hating on him, I usually don't mind him but during this event he was a little too enthusiastic to a point where it was unpleasant to listen to.
Omotesando
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Of all the casters only Day[9] and Artosis have a good understanding of the game, and some casting skills to back it up. Artosis often says it like it is, even if Tasteless spew a lot of nonsense, where I just shake my head at. He's like: you know what Tasteless: I don't think so. Love that.
Day[9] has great analytical skill aswell, although it is a nodge below Artosis's but I believe he and dj Wheat are great together, unlike his Dreamhack performance with Apollo.
Day[9] has great analytical skill aswell, although it is a nodge below Artosis's but I believe he and dj Wheat are great together, unlike his Dreamhack performance with Apollo.
Omotesando
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farnham said:
I never believed he was bad or anything, he was a decent knowledgable brood war caster. But his performance lately in SC2 GSL and the last MLG, he is purely the 'funny guy', Artosis is the wise man. Tasteless can't cope with the everchanging and complex nature of SC2.
Omotesando
Member
farnham said:
True, but that doesn't mean Tasteless can cast a false prediction where player A is doomed and 2 secs lately he would be like: ooh wait a minute, player A actually comes out on top. Happens too often lately.
Well of course this thread was going to devolve into this.
Well, it was going to be this, or how one race is overpowered, and another is underpowered, and then it was gonna be armchair game development balancing comments.
But yeah, let's do the constructive Day9 sucks, Day9 rules, Day9 sucks, Day9 rules, X caster is better, Y caster is shit, nobody's ever done that before.
Well, it was going to be this, or how one race is overpowered, and another is underpowered, and then it was gonna be armchair game development balancing comments.
But yeah, let's do the constructive Day9 sucks, Day9 rules, Day9 sucks, Day9 rules, X caster is better, Y caster is shit, nobody's ever done that before.
mescalineeyes
Banned
Personally, I thought day9's casting at this event was downright grating at times.
Caster -- Voice (clear, pleasant, good rhythm) -- Analysis (general game knowledge, prediction, build spotting) -- Entertainment (comedic skills, ability to fill time enjoyably during slow sections)
Tastosis the Casting Archon -- 10/10 -- 10/10 -- 10/10
Wolf -- 5/10 -- 9/10 -- 5/10
Day9 -- 2/10 -- 8/10 -- 5/10
TotalBiscuit -- 5/10 -- 0/10 -- 1/10
Husky -- 1/10 -- 5/10 -- 0/10
Chill -- 7/10 -- 6/10 -- 5/10
DJWheat -- 6/10 -- 3/10 -- 5/10
Moletrap -- 4/10 -- 5/10 -- 4/10
Doa -- 5/10 -- 3/10 -- 4/10
Incontrol -- 4/10 -- 5/10 -- 0/10
Gretorp -- 0/10 -- 0/10 -- 0/10
Kelly -- N/A (unintelligible)
Tastosis the Casting Archon -- 10/10 -- 10/10 -- 10/10
Wolf -- 5/10 -- 9/10 -- 5/10
Day9 -- 2/10 -- 8/10 -- 5/10
TotalBiscuit -- 5/10 -- 0/10 -- 1/10
Husky -- 1/10 -- 5/10 -- 0/10
Chill -- 7/10 -- 6/10 -- 5/10
DJWheat -- 6/10 -- 3/10 -- 5/10
Moletrap -- 4/10 -- 5/10 -- 4/10
Doa -- 5/10 -- 3/10 -- 4/10
Incontrol -- 4/10 -- 5/10 -- 0/10
Gretorp -- 0/10 -- 0/10 -- 0/10
Kelly -- N/A (unintelligible)
Harsh list. I would rate Wolf higher for his voice and Totalbiscuit higher overall. Have you tuned in to his casting recently? He started off in SC2 as someone commentating a horserace, but the last few weeks he calmed down a lot. Combined with someone that knows the game well (like TLO during Dreamhack) I really like him as a caster now.
darkpaladinmfc
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Wolf has better game knowledge than Tasteless, although Tasteless would be much better if he tried.farnham said:
darkpaladinmfc
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HD deserves less game knowledge, I listened to him cast about 2-3 months ago, and it was a Scrap Station PvP and he said 'Stalkers have the same speed as Zealots in my opinion'. Also, Artosis is funnier than Tasteless!
Coolwhip said:
thought i've never really liked totalbiscuit's style, and being english, his novelty doesn't exactly grab me, i've never really harboured any real opinion on him until i started to unearth what a petulant hypocritical douchebag he is outside of his casting.
posts like this are a keeper:
Totalbiscuit said:
BlackDove said:
Wheat is an experienced caster who flows pretty well and is a reasonable neutral choice for pairing up with another caster, so I went with above average for his speaking ability.
I like Wolf and I think he did an admirable job with that week of solo GSL casting. That 5/10 speaking is based partially on his inability to be assertive with his commentary when paired with Moletrap, which I wouldn't normally hold against him (Moletrap is really overbearing) but Diggity has done a better job creating a balanced casting environment with Moletrap than Wolf did. I do think that Wolf is easily the best Code A caster thus far and I feel he deserves to get a permanent spot.
TotalBiscuit is like a 1920s radio sports caster, extremely exaggerated, no breathing room, and no analysis or humor, just pure play-by-play. His casting is valuable if you have to go to the bathroom and are able to turn the volume up; you'll be able to follow the match perfectly! Otherwise he brings nothing to the table.
ShallNoiseUpon
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EviLore said:
Listening to Totalbiscuit's casting just makes me tired because he never stops talking. Ever. That's not even getting into his personality either...
ShallNoiseUpon
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cdyhybrid said:
If someone who knows nothing about Starcraft is going to be casting, I'd rather 2GD.
EviLore said:
Yes that was what he was doing before. But he changed in that regard. I couldn't stand listening to him either when he was rambling like crazy.
ghst said:
Now I'm curious where that was a reply to. I agree he is a huge troll though, that's why I couldn't stand him, but his casting has grown on me.
saichi said:
I'd rate Day9 considerably higher in his dailies than in his pro game commentary. In his pro game commentary he's often far too concerned with inserting as much play-by-play and generic information as possible in order to keep things moving, which doesn't leave much room for being entertained by what he's saying.
The more laid back the atmosphere of the cast, the better Day9 performs. So something like Day9 Dailies >>> netcasting like TSL >>> live events where he tries too hard to hype things up and screams into the mic constantly.
ShallNoiseUpon
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Q8D3vil said:
Artosis is perfect. Even if he does overhype some players, like Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiide
slingsarrows
Neo Member
Congrats to Huk, big win! Poor Idra, losing 0-2 to MC and then this. 
To those saying he got lucky, he sure did, if he had scouted that expansion things would probably have gone the other way, but you need luck to win any tournament, whether it's Dreamhack or the World Cup of soccer.
To those saying he got lucky, he sure did, if he had scouted that expansion things would probably have gone the other way, but you need luck to win any tournament, whether it's Dreamhack or the World Cup of soccer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH-RpLYFTMA
Interview with HuK after his AMAZING victory against Moon in the SC2 Grand Finals here at DreamHack!
Interview with HuK after his AMAZING victory against Moon in the SC2 Grand Finals here at DreamHack!
perryfarrell
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We just saw an amazing upset, en epic tourney, an excellent production... and all people can do is caster bashing. Pfffffft, pearl before swine indeed.
CONGRATS HUK!
I wonder what the people who are starting Western pro-houses now think. Whether that is really preferable over moving to Korea a few months out of the year, and do your training there.
CONGRATS HUK!
I wonder what the people who are starting Western pro-houses now think. Whether that is really preferable over moving to Korea a few months out of the year, and do your training there.
