I dont think you are a Christian then. Sorry.
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Milo Yiannopoulos, Frequent Defender of Pedophilia
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DerangedHermit
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Really? Really? At least some of the shitheads around GAF wait until someone mentions Islam to spew their garbage. This fucking guy.
TimHortons
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I'm not a Muslim but I'll chime in here. Your trying to judge previous cultures and civilizations on modern standards of living. Therefore, if marriage to a 9 year old was a normative practice throughout various civilisations over 14 centuries ago, then it is just as valid as current legislation in the UK etc... Also your source is anti-islamic as fuck. Jesus.
Well you certainly are enable to have your opinion but I know plenty of Christians who believe in the same thing I do. Some does not, but that's not my problem.
Darryl M R
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Is there a short summary of the timeline for this right now or did everything happen within the last 24 hours?
He's now attacking Republicans as well?
He's now attacking Republicans as well?
stump sock
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what are you even doing
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Then literally PM him about it instead of randomly bringing up a user's religion! It's not that hard a thought process goddamn.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
It's a good thing Maher hammered milo about this and all the other terrible stuff he's done.
Apparently telling me that my beliefs are invalid because I choose not to based it on hate and about something that people are born with.
Also derailing.
I dont think you are a good person then. Sorry.
Seriously, wtf at this post, and wtf at this entire thread? Bunch of religious experts in here, trying to define how others should or shouldn't practice their religion. It's not like there are thousands of branches of Christianity or Islam all with their own interpretations let alone whatever someone on their own makes of it ooooh wait
You can believe in God or Allah without prescribing to everything else every other person believing in God or Allah believes in. This is elementary school stuff guys, come on.
You can believe in God or Allah without prescribing to everything else every other person believing in God or Allah believes in. This is elementary school stuff guys, come on.
My girlfriend is Muslim. Doesn't eat pork. Prays sometimes. Drinks Alcohol. Doesn't wear a headscarf. Loves gay people and doesn't want to convert/blow up infidels.
Now tell me she isn't a real Muslim. I dare you.
From what I gather he made these statements on some Republican show and they outted him on twitter. Yes, in the last 24 hours. The fallout is going to be delicious.
Its in the Bible ain't it? I was raised Christian which didn't make being gay very nice. Actually I still haven't come out to my family as I know the consequences.
Yay, Im a bad person!
piratepwnsninja
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And if he doesn't, then what? Are you fishing for some sort of gotcha moment here?
Edit: Good. Jeez that was stupid.
All this bullshit and it all explains so easily how you became a Brexiter due to your apparent "rationality".
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
The point you are trying to make, I think is the same as philosophy tried to make, being:
It is a faulty claim to say that agreeing to a person on matter A means to also agree with him on unrelated matter B, or the converse, for a person to be wrong on matter B necessarily means the person must also be wrong on matter A. He accused Mess of using this line of argument, which he wanted to demonstrate to be faulty by showing to him that Mess himself agrees on many points with a person that also happens to be an unagreeable position on the very topic, pedophilia, discussed in this topic. So your post is actually supporting philosophy's point as I understand it.
And let me add to this: I agree on many many points with Richard Dawkins, but not on pedophilia or monarchy. I don't know a single thing that I agree with Milo on, but there might be some things I agree with him on, independent of what else he thinks.
Clearly you were unclear about it before this thread that has nothing to do with his personal beliefs. If that's the case, then why did you not ask him about privately before this thread?
Why did you come to this thread, single him out, and say "hey your prophet was probably a pedophile, why are you okay with that and not this?" Do you genuinely expect to believe that the ideas of Islam and pedophilia never crossed your mind until this thread?
Do you actually think I'm that gullible?
EDIT: I didn't see the ban, gonna stay on topic now.
plagiarize
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So, I heard that that British troll who claims to be a journalist regularly defends pedophilia?
It might be interesting to hear about that.
It might be interesting to hear about that.
The Bible like any other religious text (any text really) has different translation depends on the person.
It's a shame you were raised to fear and shunned people such as yourself but it doesn't mean every Christian believe in the same thing you or your family do. To be honest, if your family doesn't truly accept you for who you are, then they don't deserve you anyway.
And that's the last I'll say about that.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Tinfoilhatsron
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So fucking glad that kind of attention starved derailment isn't tolerated here.
Also child rapists, which Milo is advocating here, are so goddamn digusting. Go fuck yourself Milo.
Also child rapists, which Milo is advocating here, are so goddamn digusting. Go fuck yourself Milo.
People can't tell your lifestory from that post you made and we commented on. As you wrote it, without context or any hint at irony, it was nothing but a rude statement where you claimed someone didn't deserve to call himself a Christian because he has his own interpretation of his religion (as many, many people do). You don't do that man.
The fact that it was a sarcastic comment coming from your own background was impossible to see. It was just a bit of a dick comment without that.
That said, good luck with your own identity and the struggles in your environment.
As someone whose girlfriend has too often been described as 'Not a real Muslim' or 'One of the good ones', that shit gets to me. Nobody gets to define another person's faith or philosophy for them.
BrutishMrFish
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Mess didn't use that line of argument, he found it suspect that people get so bent out of shape over a blanket term. It was just a passing comment.
Phil0sophy brought up something completely unrelated as a gotcha moment, and I did the same thing to him to show him how hypocritical he was being. That doesn't support his point.
Well, now that the baseless thread derail is averted...
Agreed. Also, with his last comment, he's trying to pre-prejudice people's opinions so that they don't feel the need to watch the video of him defending adult men sleeping with minors.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I'm shocked that it turns out that the scumbag asshole who always acted like a scumbag asshole is indeed a scumbag asshole. Fuck Milo
Poodlestrike
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I, too, come from the Bearenstein universe. It's a much nicer place than this one.
This.
plagiarize
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While I think the younger the victim the more awful the crime and see the desire for a distinction, I'm okay with pedophilia being the blanket term.
Thinking a physically mature fifteen year old (say) is attractive is one thing. Advocating letting them get into relationship with an adult is not. We already recognize the harm of relationships with an imbalance of power (teacher / student, prison guard / inmate) and how you can't truly get consent in such situations.
Coming out of such a relationship unharmed (as troll boy evidently did) doesn't undo that the adult in the relationship had absolutely no guarantee that serious harm wouldn't occur. It's sort of like arguing that Russian roulette isn't dangerous because when you played you didn't get shot.
And yes, I don't think pedophiles choose to find young children attractive, and I can have a degree of empathy for that, but you can't budge an inch on anyone who acts on those desires, because we can't tolerate behavior that will almost certainly cause severe harm to innocents.
So sure, maybe we use lighter punishments for hebephiles that aren't likely to cause as much harm as a pedophile, but you're still talking about a high risk for harm in both cases.
Triggerhappytel
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I didn't know this fucker was English.
SaniOYOYOY
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I can inform you guys about this (I also practice Islam).
Prophet Mohammad marriage to Aisha was a political one (to strengthen the bond with his ally Abu Bakr as he was Aisha's father) even the idea was suggested from one of his companion not the prophet himself . Moreover he only consummate her when she reaches puberty anyway. Fyi he stayed monogamy until his first wive dies, and attempt polygamy really just for political reason and/or freeing women from slavery. even so polygamy was considered normal back then
so yeah
edit: moreover, the age when the marriage happened was also only ever documented in Ibn Hisham's Hadist. and CIMMW : his hadist is not among the strong one (sahih), so we dont really know
Normally this may be true. It's not when we're talking about stuff he doesn't want broadcast. Try again.
This isn't even a Muslim thing. When people see the ages princes and princesses were married off in the Middle Ages in Europe, for example, they tend to freak out, but they were generally political alliances and in most cases didn't even see each other until much later, let alone consummate the marriage. Don't get me wrong, to modern sensibilities it's still kind of messed up and abuse of children (leaving aside the issues institutional power have in shielding pedophiles from justice, whether in secular or religious institutions), but I'm not sure how this whole line of thought relates to Milo defending modern-day pederasty.
KoopaTheCasual
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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
Judging by the vile self-hating being he has become, I'm willing to bet that his pastor experience at least played a part in the significant psychological damage that has afflicted him.
SerTapTap
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Yeah, as soon as he starts up with "that's not what I meant!"
A) That's what he meant
B) He realizes he fucked up and wants people to let it slide
Intheflorsh
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Read the whole post.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The irony here is that Milo is appealing to conservatives and young bigots because he represents the stereotype they have of gay people, and part of that stereotype is gay men being broken due to things like abuse as children. He often goes on about how most gays are "confused" (he tried to start up in the Bill Maher round table) and have "issues" to work through.
So bigots can praise Milo has a rare honest gay who admits he is damaged, politely struggles with it so as to not inconvenience healthy normal people, and is not part of The Homosexual Agenda.
But Milo revealing how deep his issues go and actually kind of rationalizing child abuse, oh shit, now there is a problem. Bad optics to have a NAMBLA apologist held up as a contemporary icon for the new conservative youth.
So bigots can praise Milo has a rare honest gay who admits he is damaged, politely struggles with it so as to not inconvenience healthy normal people, and is not part of The Homosexual Agenda.
But Milo revealing how deep his issues go and actually kind of rationalizing child abuse, oh shit, now there is a problem. Bad optics to have a NAMBLA apologist held up as a contemporary icon for the new conservative youth.
it's pretty obvious that he doesn't believe much if any of the shit he's constantly spewing, so i don't think he's actually self-hating. he's just a shitty person who's found a way to promote himself.
excelsiorlef
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He gets invited to speak and spread hate by college kids across the country...
Intheflorsh
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It's pretty hard to ignore him if you're one of the people he targets for harassment.
Well, by ignore I mean not giving him a platform to spew his shit.
On the other hand, I would say that this current scrutiny was precisely because of his rising prominence in the public eye.
For the record, that is not to say that Bill Maher should be left off the hook for his booking, though.
plagiarize
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Okay, good point.
Obviously he doesn't see it that way from his perspective, but yes... a very good argument can be made that he was harmed by that experience.
But I do try and make a habit out of taking people at face value on their beliefs. If he says he wasn't damaged, I won't second guess it. Just like how if someone is a member of a religion and they tell me what their beliefs are, I'm not going to go to their holy book and point to passages I think contradict that, to argue that they don't really believe what they're telling me they believe.
But I digress.
Oh, I should add, I take them at face value unless they give me reason not to.
And yes, this asshole has done that by suddenly pretending to care about the gaming community with gamergate et al.
He defended pedophiles because it was 'LOL OH SO CONTROVERSIAL' would be my best guess. Now it's coming back to hurt his 'credibility' with the right.
SaniOYOYOY
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speaking from inside, you have no idea how much they actually differs hha
Jesus tapdancing Christ
theignoramus
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The guy who invited Milo to keynote the CPAC conference is doubling down on that invite & the conference itself just announced that POTUS will be giving a speech.
To recap, the headliners here are Steve Bannon, a deadbeat father, woman beater and White nationalist, Donald "grab em by the pussy" Trump, and Milo, a proponent of sexual abuse of the underaged.
American conservatism has now fully ventured into Emperor Caligula territory with its moral degeneracy on full, boastful display.
To recap, the headliners here are Steve Bannon, a deadbeat father, woman beater and White nationalist, Donald "grab em by the pussy" Trump, and Milo, a proponent of sexual abuse of the underaged.
American conservatism has now fully ventured into Emperor Caligula territory with its moral degeneracy on full, boastful display.
Already Torn
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Surprised nobody ever thought of this. Don't feed the trolls, people! Stop taking the bait!
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