AranhaHunter
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No wireless N is stupid and probably means I will stick with my BC 80 GB phat.
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Mines OK, and I don't have a magic PSN account:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naFejdLiPN4&feature=plcp
I believe it's cheaper to make it Wireless-N.
Faster Blu Ray drive please. Yeah I know, it's not gonna happen. I wonder if this will be accompanied by a price drop?
Some on this board like to give Jeff grief, but the guy does his research and his educated guesses are just that. Well educated guesses.
Jeff seems to get proven right more then he is proven wrong.
Is it something like thousand times more than Cell and Bluray laser?
Replacing the HDDs with some other form of storage would probably provide reasonable cost reduction considering the effect of the Thai floods.
what if they pull off a $149 retail price? that would be crazy & just right for the more family friendly games that they will be putting out.
what if they pull off a $149 retail price? that would be crazy & just right for the more family friendly games that they will be putting out.
Wii U doomed.
Oh wow, looks like Sony have gone for a PS3 super slim. $199/£149/199 with a 40GB (user-replaceable) SSD and 28/32nm silicon would be very attractive.
I have noticed PS2's disappearing from stores.
PS2 compatibility back in? Please, Sony, please! I beg you. I have a ton of PS2 games that need some love and my PS3Fat I am afraid will die any day now (even though it sounds and looks healthy).
Please do it like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWVMxxEtxO0
^^ with a proxy it can still only utilise about 50% of a 100mb connection (i have virgin media too)
without a proxy the speeds are throttled to a maximum of 2-4mb/s
I see resistance to lower prices and my guess is we will first see a $249 package deal with Kinect like depth camera included. Then later a $199 without Hard disk but still including Kinect like depth camera. On-line AR, Home, casual free to play but with upgrades you purchase and PSN services being Sony's money makers.what if they pull off a $149 retail price? that would be crazy & just right for the more family friendly games that they will be putting out.
whats this? Why is it limited? I've seen really slow downloads recently, even though my internet settings seem fine. Leave the PS3 (wired) downloading for a couple of hours and its barely done a gig (50Mb virgin cable here)
I see resistance to lower prices and my guess is we will first see a $249 package deal with Kinect like depth camera included. Then later a $199 without Hard disk but still including Kinect like depth camera. On-line AR, Home, casual free to play but with upgrades you purchase and PSN services being Sony's money makers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWVMxxEtxO0
^^ with a proxy it can still only utilise about 50% of a 100mb connection (i have virgin media too)
without a proxy the speeds are throttled to a maximum of 2-4mb/s
I see resistance to lower prices and my guess is we will first see a $249 package deal with Kinect like depth camera included. Then later a $199 without Hard disk but still including Kinect like depth camera. On-line AR, Home, casual free to play but with upgrades you purchase and PSN services being Sony's money makers.
Rigby is always good. He is the greatest predictor of future; GAF just needs to be patient for his revelation takes a year or so to be reality.
Super skinny PS3, comes with Move. It's the Wonderbook edition guys, Sony is coming in full force.
You know.. technically, that doesn't make any sense, unless the PS3 actively throttles itself's connection unless it's using a proxy.
To your ISP, it doesn't matter if the connection comes from the PS3 or your Computer (through a proxy). It's using the same ports and has the same headers, so if it was some sort of Traffic Shaping performed by the ISP, it would happen regardless, as the data is not being encrypted through the proxy.
The PSN servers wouldn't know the difference either: It's just a package arriving at them from your IP address requesting data at the proper port.
The only part of that equation that's different is the PS3 itself, unless there's some different formation in the packets when the PS3 sends them through a proxy, which I doubt there is, as the argument here is that Sony itself throttles the downloads. Then why would they program the PS3 to change the packet headers?
It might have been you that I said this to in the other topic, but going from HDD to 40gb and moving to an SSD doesn't seem very logical to me, you would be massively cutting down on what people could download from their services, along with game install.
I don't think with a 40gb SSD along with the space the PS3 takes up on its storage by default would be able to fit all the games they offer on PS+ currently let alone if you wanted to play some other games or download some PSN titles.
They aren't going to add that cost back in at this point, it would cost them more than they are probably slimming down this model with.
Rear USB port would be fantastic too.Yes! I hated the slim compared to the phat. Please redeem yourself with this one Sony, I'd buy three
and to think i was about to purchase a new ps3 in 2 weeks........
Now a part of me wants to wait if there is indeed a price drop on the way.
I see resistance to lower prices and my guess is we will first see a $249 package deal with Kinect like depth camera included. Then later a $199 without Hard disk but still including Kinect like depth camera. On-line AR, Home, casual free to play but with upgrades you purchase and PSN services being Sony's money makers.
Other than the fact that there is no info that Sony has a depth camera and that yet another peripheral would be confusing to the customer and get little dev support, it is a great guess. And the no HD idea has been floated for years, I don't think it will ever happen due to the technical nature of the HD install (which requires the firmware on a thumbdrive).
Other than the fact that there is no info that Sony has a depth camera and that yet another peripheral would be confusing to the customer and get little dev support, it is a great guess. And the no HD idea has been floated for years, I don't think it will ever happen due to the technical nature of the HD install (which requires the firmware on a thumbdrive).
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lol kidding. Yeah, Wii U would have some immense competition if PS3 is at that price.
Yeah, here it is a patent for a Sony depth camera. What's telling is the date it was filed (Oct 26, 2011) and the date OpenMax IL 1.2 with camera support was announced to Members (Nov 2011) at the Soul Korea meeting.Sony does have a Depth Camera it's called ICU they had it for years & also their is patents showing the PS3 or PS4 using a Depth Camera.
Backward compatibility with PS2 games ? If so i can finally give rest to my Phat PS3.
Yeah, here it is a patent for a Sony depth camera. What's telling is the date it was filed (Oct 26, 2011) and the date OpenMax IL 1.2 with camera support was announced to Members (Nov 2011) at the Soul Korea
Oct 26, 2011 Sony Depth Camera patent filed
Nov 7, 2011 OpenMax IL 1.2 announced to professionals with APIs
Feb 16, 2012 Sony Depth Camera patent published
Feb 14, 2012 Khronos publishes to public OpenMax IL 1.2
My opinion is Sony plans to use this depth camera with the PS3.
A HDD adds $60 to the build cost no matter what. Sony could bulk buy flash and drive down costs quite rapidly so that they could stick in 40GB of flash (or even 80GB) for $40 and the price of the flash will halve every 18 months, or they could bump up from 40GB to 60GB and still save money overall. We are entering the twilight stages of the generation, both Sony and Microsoft should be looking at driving down hardware costs as much as possible and for Sony that means removing the HDD and replacing it with an SSD which has longer term benefits. With a HDD $149 will never be in reach, but it will with an SSD.
In just 3 years a 160GB SSD will be available for ~ $40 in bulk which is enough storage, while a basic HDD will still be $60. In four years the same 160GB SSD will be $30, while the HDD will still be $60.
Keeping the HDD long term is not a good idea and the crossover has come where SSDs are becoming price competitive in large enough sizes that fixed devices can switch to them without too much trouble.
You are missing the point, the end goal is not to drive down prices but to sell more PS3s into peoples homes so they buy more games and use PSN services. If that can be done with a cheaper PS3 then cheap it will be but Roku and Apple TV boxes are under $100. What they can't do is offer local accurate Voice or gesture recognition or features that require the POWER in a game console compared to a thin client.Not going to happen, Sony aren't going to make a PS3 model they are trying to reduce in cost more expensive to produce by adding more hardware to it. Why?
I still don't see the point, it isn't going to sell, they aren't going to bundle more with a PS3 when they are trying to drive down costs.