Incitemaybe
Member
As long as Faron Woods doesn't look like a glittering mess, which so far looks like something that's been fixed......I'm going to like this HD version 
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New Zelda Twilight Princess HD gameplay comparison, previews, screens
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mrmickfran
Member
Those fucking cannons slaughtered the framerate.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I'm completely satisfied with what we're getting.
wild wild rice
Member
having to wait another month for this suuuuucks.
It's entirely possible they have. We'll just have to wait and see.
MiamiWesker
Member
TP has hands down the greatest dungeons ever and 4 is maybe the best one, each one after that is so incredible.
Jonneh3003
Banned
BUT WE HAVE TO ASSUME NOW! WE'VE BEEN ASSUMING THINGS SINCE THIS WAS ANNOUNCED. The coverage looks fantastic, Nintendo could have gone to a greater effort to tell us about the enhancements themselves but the remaster looks like one of the better ones I've seen. Nothing quite tops Halo 2 Anniversary but that was more on the remake side.
-shadow-
Member
The canons were insane. Which was really weird because most of the rest was just fine (and the loadtimes were really odd). Still wonder why Nintendo didn't optimize that to the point where it didn't go to a crawl.
Hyrule Field is amazing now. Also very solid framework. I still have nightmares with Hyrule Field framerate drops in Dolphin (pre patch).
Even the caves look good.
Can't wait to play this again.
As someone who didn't love Wind Waker, even the small changes added up for me. The swift sail made the ocean travel a bit less tedious and I enjoyed the Miiverse functionality a lot. Nintendo at least doesn't just settle for a resolution bump with their remasters and I cannot wait for Skyward Sword HD. Meh come on, it'll happen
I don't think this one will happen. Best we can hope for is an HD up-res eShop release. Even then we know in the meantime we are getting a regular eShop release according to the same datamining that leaked this game. Skyward Sword, which you know I absolutely adore, is too reliant on 1:1 Wii Motion Plus motion controls to be remastered when so few have that controller, and when it's not the primary controller for the current or presumably future system. I suppose if we have a similar controller for a future system it could happen. But otherwise it will take such significant reworking I don't see it happening.
I completely agree. By this same token, Nintendo won't ever make the opening section of a story-heavy game optional, even if they've released the game many times before. It's just not their thing.
Fingers way crossed that they do not. ☺
Not only that, but in addition we know from interviews I believe that the Zelda team feels 30 fps is sufficient for console Zelda games and aims for visual fidelity otherwise rather than 60 fps (and I think they're right, console Zelda gave great gamefeel as is).
There is something new, though. They added a new dungeon. That's more than we have gotten from any other Zelda remaster. I understand your frustration esp. in regards to locking content behind amiibo, though.
They didn't slap a Wii version in. Hero Mode is in HD also so they didn't separately remaster the two games. It is odd, though. I suppose they remastered the Wii version and flipped it for the main mode, and then forgot to or chose not to change the aiming animation? No...that doesn't make sense. I guess they remastered the GCN version then and...hmm...flipped it for Hero Mode and...
Oh, maybe they didn't have the first person Mode set up at all for right-handed Link so as a workaround they stuck with the original over-the-shoulder perspective. I bet that's it.
FreedomFighter
Member
Dat HD fog.
TheMoon
Member
N64: (laughs)
mrmickfran
Member
Comment section is cancer.
High resolution alpha transparencies are death to most hardware.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Looks fine. I'm still massively disappointed a lot of the tech improvements from Wind Waker HD never made their way in, where most would have been more beneficial to TP over WW in the first place, but what can you do.
TP could be my favourite Zelda but I won't be picking this up right away. I've already played through the game five or six times and did a 100% run in Dolphin only a year or two ago.
TP could be my favourite Zelda but I won't be picking this up right away. I've already played through the game five or six times and did a 100% run in Dolphin only a year or two ago.
Worldshaker
Member
After playing WWHD last year, I have to say this game doesn't look great visually. I beat the GC version when it was released and haven't revisited this game since.
I'll pick it up and give it a go, but I'd be lying if I said I was excited for this remaster.
I'll pick it up and give it a go, but I'd be lying if I said I was excited for this remaster.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Re-buy you mean. And yes. I missed out on the 2015 games. While Mario Maker isn't my thing Splatoon just looks like so much fun, Yoshi's Wooly World looks gorgeous and Xenoblade Chronicles X is like my dream RPG (mechs and sci-fi and aliens). Also, #FE battle system is great based off what I've seen and TPHD is a must buy for me being a Zelda fan.
Milly Osworth
Member
I take back what I said about bad trailers, this official Nintendo trailer is really great. I might buy it now :O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ac-PGCfxFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ac-PGCfxFE
This doesn't erase the old bad ones, but this one is great indeed.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Man this is excellent.
That dungeon is
super dissapointing
a few recycled rooms of cave of ordeals with enemies in wolf link, that's it.
Barrow Roll
Member
I caved and bought a Ganondorf amiibo. Looking forward to the true Hero Mode.
TheMoon
Member
Here's your list of options:
Buy NA retail version which always comes with amiibo
Buy eShop version and wait for eventual standalone amiibo release in NA (will definitely happen)
Buy eShop version and import amiibo from PAL region where it's sold separately
Buy eShop version and import amiibo from Japan where it's sold separately
Buy eShop version and do not buy an amiibo and don't access the Cave of Shadows <- what you'll have to do given what you said
That's it.
amiibo content is never made accessible any other way (Super Mario Maker's CRT filter being the sole exception)
Barrow Roll
Member
I think the most important question of everyone's mind is, will Roll Goal use the gamepad's motion controls?
TheMoon
Member
Safe bet: yes - at least in one version (Hero Mode).
Maybe they offer both. It just makes too much sense and was already in there from the Wii version. I just hope it's a bit easier now
Just did the heartpiece and bait last year. Shit was tough.
Probably. There are a couple of very similar Gamepad balance games in Wii Fit U.
Cow Mengde
Banned
This is really TP, the highest high you can achieve with the lowest lows you can imagine!
It depends on what you remember more, the fucking gigantice empty plains or the beautifully crafted interiors
I can attest to that.
Even the game on Wii blown up to 480p can't hide the beautiful game underneath, it's really gorgeous as it is.
A HD remaster would be identical on the gamepad to boot.
Yeah, look at this. Yeah, the closeup textures aren't super sharp, but it fits the style perfectly. Maybe they can add more dynamic shadows like WWHD, but otherwise, it looks amazing.
TheMoon
Member
Yeah, look at this. Yeah, the closeup textures aren't super sharp, but it fits the style perfectly. Maybe they can add more dynamic shadows like WWHD, but otherwise, it looks amazing.
Skyward Sword is this decades Wind Waker. People threw so much shit on that game's visuals alone and I never got why. It's objectively gorgeous.
Because on the Wii it has lots of visual problems, particularly in darkened areas. Also, since it's not HD it doesn't look anywhere near as good as it should.
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding, but Skyward Sword does have a hero Mode unlockable.
It sounds like the Ganondorf amiibo and/or (as others have pointed out upthread) Zora armor, in normal mode, would make a play through more enjoyable for both of you. ☺
Reposting this from above, if it makes you feel a bit better:
maybe they didn't have the first person Mode set up at all for right-handed Link so as a workaround they stuck with the original over-the-shoulder perspective. I bet that's it.
I'm not sure why they chose to use the right-hand model, though, other than thinking this would be replicate the Wii experience for those interested in that.
It probably won't be on NX for a long time. Backwards compatibility is thought to be unlikely based on presumed architecture for NX.
I'm hoping Zelda U does resonate with the West. The style is somewhere between Skyward Sword and Wind Waker in aesthetic. It does seem to--from the limited amount of the game we've seen--be in a more epic fantasy vein as you said, and I hope that helps foster appeal in the West, but I'm concerned the anime style will not appeal to most PS/X gamers who might be more swayed into buying a system for the game if it had a different art style. (But Zelda U looks gorgeous so...I definitely don't want the art style changed! I'm just lamenting the likely poo-pooing it will get from many Western gamers.)
Twilight Princess looks amazing. When it came out it was technically one of the top 2-3 games in its generation.This is really TP, the highest high you can achieve with the lowest lows you can imagine!
It depends on what you remember more, the fucking gigantice empty plains or the beautifully crafted interiors
DAMN. That was amazing. This is how they should've revealed the game.
Yup. Agreed.
Same. Would look insane with Zelda U lighting
JaseMath
Member
It will probably happen at some point. They'd likely have to re-tool the controls, so it may be awhile assuming the NX doesn't have motion controls/isn't BC with Wii.
Alltough I do a gree with Skyward sword being absolutely gorgeos, I think the difference between Wind Waker and Skyward Sword was that the gamecube's technical resources where perfectly allocated for the things Wind Waker was trying to achieve both stylistically and gameplay wise.
Skyward Swords water painting effect, however beautifull it was, ultimately feels like it was limited by the wii hardware and resolution; a water-painted style really could have been something on the WiiU realizing its full potential.
But I did like Skywards Sowrd style from the beginning, felt like a perfect compromise between cell-shaded Wind Waker and the more realistic artstyle of Twilight Princess, while still managing to feel original and fresh. The game itself on the other hand...
Yes, my point was nintendo historically keeps improving such little things (TP no hero mode>SS hero mode after finsish>TPHD hero mode available from the start) long before amiibo was introduced, yet is now locking things that previously would have been standard behind amiiboo. Anyway, thread has moved on from this, so let's not go to off-topic here.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Really? I don't remember anyone complaining about the graphics all that much. Yeah, there were minor complaints here and there, but the overall reaction was very positive as I recall.
TheMoon
Member
The collective meltdown was split between visuals and motion controls which is why it wasn't as focused as WW's Celda whining.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
That music gave me goosebumps. Its the music from one of the original trailers they showed no? Maybe the one for the wii game's release?
Also lol at using Malo as a super important character there at the end.
JumpCancel
Banned
I wish Hero mode didn't mirror the game like the Wii version. I prefer the GC layout, but want Hero mode.
Fuck sake Nintendo. Why can't we have both?
Fuck sake Nintendo. Why can't we have both?
The inherent limitations of the system really fuck the game's artistic ambitions over. I remember a part in a dungeon where you are running on top of a mound of bones... but instead of modelling the ground, it's a featureless surface with a very bad basic texture pattern on top.
Skyward Sword has great colour and design but being on the Wii ruined alot of it. They should reattempt this artistic approach.
TheMoon
Member
You can. Tap Ganondorf amiibo in regular mode = boom.
They're kind of doing that with Zelda U, although we haven't really seen much of the game's art style yet.
My favorite Zelda so far. <3
Yeah, look at this. Yeah, the closeup textures aren't super sharp, but it fits the style perfectly. Maybe they can add more dynamic shadows like WWHD, but otherwise, it looks amazing.
mrmickfran
Member
I don't remember SS being so pretty.
Yeah, look at this. Yeah, the closeup textures aren't super sharp, but it fits the style perfectly. Maybe they can add more dynamic shadows like WWHD, but otherwise, it looks amazing.