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Not Enough Shaders: ACKKStudios claims gaming site fished for Nintendo bashing answer

watershed

Banned
This just means that more than one site is guilty of asking loaded questions or atleast have a guilty conscience of doing it.

Lol this is true. Maybe that tells us something about the nature of the questions that the Kotaku interviewer asked. Of course the interview hasn't been published yet.
 

Alexios

Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
You could easily spin her own questions into "fishing for negatives" too even though they obviously aren't.
No, you couldn't, because they obviously aren't.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
I also strongly believe that it's not exactly the classiest way to basically shift focus away from the original issue by publicly calling out rookie mistakes. Kotaku could've reached out to NES just as easily and asked them to take the article down or to clarify things since they were a) not publicly named and b) will walk away from this undamaged while both the developers and NES' rep will take a hit in certain circles.

Not very nice.

edit: Apparently the original article wasn't even about Kotaku. Kinda makes it even less nice, Mr. Schreier.

Re-reading the thread, I feel this is a fair point that's been overlooked. Kotaku isn't all squeaky clean as some are making them out to be.
 

Alexios

Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I'm also disappointed that the author of this article didn't reach out to get my side of this story. Reporters should not treat other reporters this way.
I don't think she necessarily knows. The can't mentioned could be because she wasn't actually told (unless I missed a bit where she says otherwise). I don't think it would be bad for an indie game to get the spotlight in times of high traffic due to big articles either, depending on how you handle that. It's not like they're competing for money on a shelf here and so should avoid crowded dates.

Also, even if your post is genuine, that people guessed right before "learning" this should tell you a lot.

Plus, the timing wasn't the main issue.

Weird how this admission ends up shutting their mouths which is what they didn't want to do by avoiding to tell names. Success?

Also, what if Kotaku isn't actually the site in question? That game did get *some* press recently for looking awesome, maybe they've been interviewed by several others during the same time frame, why do you instantly assume it's you they're discussing and they should be ashamed for not contacting you first?

Protip: Don't post such articles untill you have evidence/checked your sources and you're sure you won't harm the reputation of someone. (in this case also the studio)
Like all the negative Nintendo stories spawning from such baiting attitudes have any more proof. They transferred what they were told, that's it, and their source is as legit as you can get, whether Kotaku publishes an edited piece or not after the fact.
 

Oddduck

Member
Re-reading the thread, I feel this is a fair point that's been overlooked. Kotaku isn't all squeaky clean as some are making them out to be.

It's hilarious. No one guesses Polygon, CVG, Edge, GameInformer.com, JoyStiq.

Everyone jumped on it being Kotaku.

I mean what does that say about Kotaku? Not a very good reputation.
 

NewFresh

Member
Emily should have cleared the article with the publisher and the website before publishing it. The issue remains that the studio was treated poorly, but it sees overshadowed by the poor article at this point.

Like I said before, I just hope the studio doesn't get the crap end of it all.
 

Zaph

Member
So I'm guessing this is what happens when a blogger thinks they're a journalist and end up getting a rude awakening?

The Internet: Too many writers, not enough editors.
 
It's hilarious. No one guesses Polygon, CVG, Edge, GameInformer.com, JoyStiq.

Everyone jumped on it being Kotaku.

I mean what does that say about Kotaku? Not a very good reputation.

But. It IS Kotaku.

I'm sorry, but the author immediately running to defend himself is an admission of guilt. Shame it was exposed so ham fisted, but hey, games journalism.
 

Phazon

Member
Protip: Don't post such articles untill you have evidence/checked your sources and you're sure you won't harm the reputation of someone. (in this case also the studio)
 

z0m3le

Banned
WAIT NM I'M BACK IN THIS IS TOO GOOD

DAT RUN ON SENTENCE

haha

You should have seen my first article before guek edited it. I had something like 23 corrects to an ~800 page preview for Zombi U. 90% of the problem was of course all the commas, I use them like air.
 
Wow! It's not every day you get anonymously accused of this sort of thing. This is about me and Kotaku, yes.

I'm disappointed that the developers of that game chose to bash me to another reporter instead of asking me why my story hasn't gone up. If they had asked me, I would have happily told them that the story was pushed back because I didn't want it to get lost among the influx of Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Wii U, holiday gift guides, and all the other big stories we've been covering over the past few weeks. I would have told them that their story is not particularly timely, so I wanted to hold it for a time when they could get more attention.

I would have also happily told them how excited I am about the Wii U and how psyched I am to hear that indie developers are doing well on it. I said as much in a podcast recorded yesterday, coincidentally (which you can check out Wednesday over at GameTrailers TV).

Anyone who follows me on Twitter, reads my work on Kotaku, or saw my thoughts on BBC last week knows that I am very high on this system.

I'm also disappointed that the author of this article didn't reach out to get my side of this story. Reporters should not treat other reporters this way.

It's always weird when stuff like this goes public. I still intend to run this story, but now I guess there's more to the story than what I was originally going to run.

I cannot take any site seriously that has an article online wich asks me wich Animal Crossing character i would bone.

Sorry.
 
There's an objective claim being made - that the interview was delayed for not being click bait enough - and a subjective claim - that the questions are biased against Nintendo. No shit Schreier only responded to the factual error. Use your own brain when the interview goes live.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
But. It IS Kotaku.

I'm sorry, but the author immediately running to defend himself is an admission of guilt. Shame it was exposed so ham fisted, but hey, games journalism.
We can only assume it is Kotaku because Kotaku has said it was them. Of course Kotaku only assumed it was them because apparently the shoe of "outlet that tells leading questions that bash Nintendo" fits them perfectly. So they jumped in to tell NES off for not talking with them, even though Kotaku apparently didn't talk to NES to confirm who the mysterious outlet was. So Kotaku basically being Kotaku then. Maybe this is what the song Razzle Dazzle was all about.

Oh yeah, and Emily is a female name.

I cannot take any site seriously that has an article online wich asks me wich Animal Crossing character i would bone.

Sorry.
Did you bone Tangy?
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DGRE

Banned
If you don't name names, and publicly shame them then what's the point of writing this article? It's pretty obvious just by looking at this forum that negative stories sell more than positive ones.

Wow for once I agree with Takao. Rather than naming the studio in the article, NES should've just named the site and said that the developer couldn't be named for fear of being blacklisted.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Do you only read headlines?

Ah yes, because telling us that "Hey guys, did you know Rule 34, a rule that states 'if it exists there is porn of it" also applies to Animal Crossing?" is great journalism and doesn't deserve to be called out.
 
Kotaku is probably happy this happened.

Now when the interview is posted, it'll get a shit load of hits.

This is like an engineered feud between rappers. Kotaku wants more hits, ACKKStudios wants more publicity, so they get together and dupe the poor Emily Rogers into making this into an incident. It all makes sense now.
 

sonicmj1

Member
But. It IS Kotaku.

I'm sorry, but the author immediately running to defend himself is an admission of guilt. Shame it was exposed so ham fisted, but hey, games journalism.

I can't blame him for being defensive, given the attitudes in this thread. What was he supposed to think?

This kind of behavior sounds much more like CVG than anyone else, given their history of taking interview quotes out of context, throwing them up as standalone stories with scandalous headlines, and then showing the full interview later where it becomes obvious how they spun it to fit their agenda. That's what I said in the Game Journalism thread, and I'm sticking to it now.

Putting this article up without consulting anyone directly involved in the story was a huge mistake, and even if it was taken down, it can't really be undone.
 

KageZero

Member
Interview them today?

Wow! It's not every day you get anonymously accused of this sort of thing. This is about me and Kotaku, yes.

I'm disappointed that the developers of that game chose to bash me to another reporter instead of asking me why my story hasn't gone up. If they had asked me, I would have happily told them that the story was pushed back because I didn't want it to get lost among the influx of Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Wii U, holiday gift guides, and all the other big stories we've been covering over the past few weeks. I would have told them that their story is not particularly timely, so I wanted to hold it for a time when they could get more attention.

I would have also happily told them how excited I am about the Wii U and how psyched I am to hear that indie developers are doing well on it. I said as much in a podcast recorded yesterday, coincidentally (which you can check out Wednesday over at GameTrailers TV).

Anyone who follows me on Twitter, reads my work on Kotaku, or saw my thoughts on BBC last week knows that I am very high on this system.

I'm also disappointed that the author of this article didn't reach out to get my side of this story. Reporters should not treat other reporters this way.

It's always weird when stuff like this goes public. I still intend to run this story, but now I guess there's more to the story than what I was originally going to run.
They already did?
 
When are you guys going to listen when I tell you Emily Rogers makes all this shit up?

You're likely to get more accurate journalism for a bowl of alphabet soup.
 

Cheerilee

Member
This just means that more than one site is guilty of asking loaded questions or atleast have a guilty conscience of doing it.

Nobody is "guilty" of asking loaded questions, because loaded questions are a perfectly valid part of a good reporter's arsenal.

You yourself even just used a loaded statement by presupposing that loaded questions are something to be guilty of and/or feel guilty about.
 
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