Because we* are a civilised society.
* Obviously with many exceptions to the rule as witnessed by this thread.
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Oklahoma Double Execution Botched: "We're going to close the blinds temporarily."
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Because we* are a civilised society.
* Obviously with many exceptions to the rule as witnessed by this thread.
I'm sorry if I dont want my justice system run on appeals to emotions and revenge.
jakonovski
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He with the manliest chest beating is obviously also the most righteous.
xDUMPWEEDx
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The victim didn't get a humane death, she got a brutal death.
How does giving this guy a quick, painless, death make us "better"? I see it as the exact opposite. It would be insulting to give this guy an easy out.
Honestly, he should have gotten a load of buckshot in his stomach, kicked into a grave, and dirt shoveled onto him. That's what she got, after all.
Because justice is not based on some sick revenge fantasy.
What is the point of criminal justice in your opinion?
yeah more often than not its based on spitting in the face of the victims.
Should victims decide sentences?
Dion Blaster
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But then the person who carries that type execution out deserves the sames thing to happen to him right? And then whoever takes care of that guy needs to be executed in a similar fashion, because anything else would be insulting.
Indeed. (If I wasn't clear above I was making the point the death penalty is abhorrent, uncivilised and so are its proponents.
By 'we' I meant western societies that dont have a death penalty like my home, Australia. It baffles me that the USA still has it, especially knowing they are invariably executing innocent people who are falsely convicted. Let alone the fact the punishment itself is inhumane.
I hope you never end up working in the legal or judiciary sectors. Anywhere. Or wind up on a jury.
Would you rather we went Hannibal on them and slice them up in fucked up ways to please your bloodlust?
Droopaloop
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I know it costs money, but if their guilty of murder I think I'd rather let them sit jail for life. I mean if I were given the two options of dying or sitting in a 6x8 cell for the rest of my life the choice would be easy.
No of course not but dont expect me to lose any sleep or feign outrage because a pice of shit felt pain while dying its still not comparable to the pain he inflicted.
xDUMPWEEDx
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Fail logic. Looks like the doctors need the injections administered to them too!
Try again please.
I think you jumped into a deeper swimming pool than you expected. Your logic is the busted one.
Talking with someone in real life about the death penalty sucks when you say you are pro, those against it usually react angrily. I remain calm and they get so angry. Not worth talking about.
Also, you can tell it is angrily bash America's policy hour when all the spelling are written in non-American spelling.
Peace
Also, you can tell it is angrily bash America's policy hour when all the spelling are written in non-American spelling.
Peace
I don't think anyone is arguing that his actions aren't horrible, just that they can't condone this type of punishment being done in their name (if you believe that the authority of government is drawn from the people).
A Life sentence costs less money than executing a person.
Droopaloop
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I am aware of that.
Re-Edit: Actually I misread that. My bad. For some reason I assumed it would be more expensive to keep an individual alive. Either way this was a bunch of bullshit.
This exact statement probably accounted for 1/5 of the posts in the thread but people still seem to like making false equivalencies.
There are a lot of people who call for blood at the drop of a hat in our country too you know
Indeed, there was a recent study where I think it was statistically about 4% of inmates on Death Row would be completely if their case was looked at again properly.
Well, color me surprised. The death pen rears its ugly head yet again, and this time, we have a botched execution with a cruel end. There is nothing humane about killing another person, and this goes to show just how brutal it can be. Absolutely despicable. I'm confounded that this barbaric practice hasn't been abolished state wide already.
Not only is it barbaric and an enormous waste of resources, lord only knows the unknown number of innocent people who are put on death row and are subsequently killed for crimes they did not commit. And some call that justice, huh?
Despicable.
Not only is it barbaric and an enormous waste of resources, lord only knows the unknown number of innocent people who are put on death row and are subsequently killed for crimes they did not commit. And some call that justice, huh?
Despicable.
Disc 2, maybe. Disc 1... is not terribly calming.
CyclopsRock
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Surely, if you insist on capital punishment, a firing squad is better than this shit? When you get to the point at which you're killing someone with their knowledge at a specified time, 12 guns pointed at his or her head is going to basically kill them instantly in practically every case that isn't Wolverine.
xDUMPWEEDx
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You don't even have a rational opinion. You stated that whoever performs the execution should themselves be executed the same way.
So in this case, the doctors performing this lethal injection should themselves be injected for performing it.
My rationale is that the punishment fits the crime in the truest sense of the term.
You make no sense, and I'm not even sure you know what this thread is about.
I guess people who are fine with killing are less likely to be upset about the consequences.
There are a lot of people who call for blood at the drop of a hat in our country too you know
I know. But thankfully our laws are robust and in this instance humane.
Direct quotes please.
If you read the ones from which you are basing your argument, you will find the poster is only taking your inane argument to its logical extent.
A machine kills him with lethal injection, you want someone to fucking fire a shotgun into his gut, kick him into a grave and bury him. Do you not see how these two things are wildly different?
On a similar theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L4IrgZHvzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lf0A3JuxjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCEQiL-8foM
There's more, but I can't find them now.
Countries that kill their criminals are fogy to me. It's barbaric, regardless the way it is done. I don't understand why en how this is still done in a country like the USA, that claims to be a western and civilized country. To me it's still isn't.
US politics and the juridical system have a long way to go to make sense to me, the current systems are destroying the country from within and make the USA look like a medieval, racist and retarded country.
I don't understand why everybody is so patriotic while a major part of the world hates the USA and the way things are done, and these things don't help at all.
When will they wake up....?
US politics and the juridical system have a long way to go to make sense to me, the current systems are destroying the country from within and make the USA look like a medieval, racist and retarded country.
I don't understand why everybody is so patriotic while a major part of the world hates the USA and the way things are done, and these things don't help at all.
When will they wake up....?
xDUMPWEEDx
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Yea, because lethal injection is completely devoid of any human involvement, right?
Laff.
If humans didn't exist, there wouldn't be anything to observe it being in a better condition, so what would be the point?
Well to be honest this kind of news makes you wonder what you'd choose.
There's something I don't get. Why don't they use gaz, like the one used in assisted suicide?
This seems easier, less risked, and far more humane. Assuming there's any humanity into killing someone I mean.
Oh, is that a sign?
I now have the mental image of a father pointing a shotgun at the... well...
velociraptor
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So civilised that your society bombs kids. But these poor murderers suffer pain? Oh the travesty, oh the humanity.
Bedameister
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Fallout-NL
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Man... I'd honestly take a firing squad over this.
Are you being deliberately dense?
You advocated execution by shotgun in the gut, then kicking them into the grave. I get the impression you are having a different discussion to everyone else in this thread.
By 'we' I meant western society. Not my country, Australia, which doesnt have a death penalty.
Obviously bombing kids is wrong. But so is capital punishment since an imperfect legal system means that inevitably lots of innocent people get executed.
Kenshin001
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Japan has the death penalty and also has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Not to say that the death penalty affects crime rates, I don't think it does, but I lived in Australia which doesn't have the death penalty and with the vicious and senseless violence that frequently happens in that country it doesn't seem more civilised, at all.
It's unfortunate what happened to that piece of shit who buried the girl alive, he should have had a quick painless death. I hope as he was suffering he had an epiphany of what that poor girl must have endured at his hands.
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