Flying_Phoenix
Banned
*Watches the Youtube ad*
God damn Obama is like the Apple of presidents. :O
God damn Obama is like the Apple of presidents. :O
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PoliGAF 2012 Community Thread
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Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
That's Genius
NullPointer
Member
It was probably the world-wide socialist conspiracy. You can spot them because they have healthcare coverage.
Another failure of the Obama to not flip the hidden magical switch and equalize societal problems over night.
RustyNails
Member
Wow. Piers Morgan did major smackdown of right wing loonybin Jonah Goldberg tonight. Goldberg was reduced to saying Bin Laden wasn't that big of Al Qaida figure anyway. This is gonna be all over TPM/HuffPo tomorrow.
NullPointer
Member
Since we're seeing candidate Obama rise from his slumber I thought we could celebrate by enjoying these small treasures from the not-so-way-back machine:
Baracky: The Movie
Baracky II
Its funny to compare and contrast some of the election year tactics of 2008 to whats going on now.
Baracky: The Movie
Baracky II
Its funny to compare and contrast some of the election year tactics of 2008 to whats going on now.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Goddamn that Forward ad is good.
Hahaha. I started reading some of the hilarious comments on that trash and realized something was up. Checked Drudge Report and my suspicions were correct.
For using the word 'forward'?
You going full retard man?
It's a fucking word, used by pretty much everyone, all the time.
Do I really need to google Reagan Forward for you?
Do maybe want a whois of forward.com?
You need pics?
Dude, admit it was a stupid post and let's move on.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
If the GOP actually takes the stance of it being a Marxist term and attack Obama for THAT, they have officially gone fucking crazy (again). Use the term against him semi-effectively like some of the hashtags floating around now... "look #forward to high gas prices!"
A marxist attack will just make independents roll their eyes, as they already do when someone tries to attack Obama on religion and the like.
A marxist attack will just make independents roll their eyes, as they already do when someone tries to attack Obama on religion and the like.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Man, Romney caught flip-flopping again with the whole OBL issue. Debates are going to be GOLD.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
For using the word 'forward'?
You going full retard man?
It's a fucking word, used by pretty much everyone, all the time.
Do I really need to google Reagan Forward for you?
Do maybe want a whois of forward.com?
You need pics?
Dude, admit it was a stupid post and let's move on.
Reagan was a socialist by conservative standards of today so you might want to be careful in considering him for "conservative" examples. Just saying.....
cartoon_soldier
Member
Romney directly won't. Expect it to be the Drudge headline tomorrow or something though
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Just like this, amirite?
The straw grasping for that was hilarious.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
One of my good friends is a Drudge fanatic. Whenever we get into a discussion, he'll just end his argument with "It was on Drudge, so...beat that."
I always just get über complacent and just say "I don't fucking care anymore." It would be pointless to say to him "yeah, well, I listened to NPR so.." because he'd just cut me off and laugh.
PhoenixDark
Banned
If this is the best republicans can muster, I'm going to lose a bet. Come on
speculawyer
Member
You are citing the Mooney-times? Pretty lowbrow trolling even for you.
I feel that whole point has been overplayed a bit in the recent years.
Yeah, it's fun to tweak dogmatic idiots Norquist, but in real political sense, Reagan was a very conservative president (and please, let's not get into a semantic argument about what 'conservative' really means).
For his terms, he was a massive tax cutter, and his tax increases were mostly done as part of tax code reform (closing loopholes) or were localized (like the gas tax increase he signed).
But that's not really relevant to the point I was making.
Guys, I really do think we should give Kosmo SOME credit here. He may say non-smart things a good portion of the time, but I don't think any right winger here on gaf is a full blown teatard.
Since you brought it up, what exactly is the difference between the two bills? Serious quesiton.
Since you brought it up, what exactly is the difference between the two bills? Serious quesiton.
The Librarian
Banned
The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act allows women to sue an employer for pay discrimination within a certain amount of time after their last paycheck. The law beforehand, as ruled by the Supreme Court, made it so women could only sue within a certain amount of time after their first paycheck.
The fair pay act being brought up by the Senate protects women from legal blow-back if they ask an employer about what a man, in the same position as she, is making. Or, as Ripclawe puts it, "an invasion of privacy of men by women."
I love how he labels himself as "center-right."
Stephen King's "Tax Me for Fuck's Sake" article has it's own thread, but it points out something I've thought of frequently.
Seriously, Christie is an unprofessional dickhead and I have absolutely no clue how someone in public office is allowed to talk the way he does without anyone thinking much of it. He's rude and condescending and seems incapable of behaving the way a governor or potential future presidential candidate should.
Seriously, Christie is an unprofessional dickhead and I have absolutely no clue how someone in public office is allowed to talk the way he does without anyone thinking much of it. He's rude and condescending and seems incapable of behaving the way a governor or potential future presidential candidate should.
Graycias, Dax.
You've been following my posts? Wow, I've never had a secret admirer before. <3
So...whatcha doin later tonight?
*straightens tie*
*sexy purr*
I'll gladly apologize if I discover this "Trish" person actually is c-a-t: smart.
I'm just criticizing based on that interview. She didn't come off as if she knew a lot, and seemed more interested in throwing talking points around.
But since we're on the subject, will you apologize for calling Paul Krugman a "fringe idiot"?
You've been following my posts? Wow, I've never had a secret admirer before. <3
So...whatcha doin later tonight?
*straightens tie*
*sexy purr*
I'll gladly apologize if I discover this "Trish" person actually is c-a-t: smart.
I'm just criticizing based on that interview. She didn't come off as if she knew a lot, and seemed more interested in throwing talking points around.
But since we're on the subject, will you apologize for calling Paul Krugman a "fringe idiot"?
RE: Romney killing OBL.
So, from what I've seen of the Romney campaign's response to Obama's attacks, he's tried to save face by saying that he would have given the same order to do so that the Chairman did. But here's my question. What are the odds that a hypothetical President Romney would even GET the chance to make such a decision? Unless I'm mistaken, Mittens, McCain and all the other righties had their focus on Iraq. Part of the reason we were able to get Bin Laden was because Obama shifted focus from Iraq BACK to Afghanistan and taking on Al Qaeda. If Romney were president, would he have made that shift? If we're to take his comments during the debates at face value, then the answer would be "no".
So, from what I've seen of the Romney campaign's response to Obama's attacks, he's tried to save face by saying that he would have given the same order to do so that the Chairman did. But here's my question. What are the odds that a hypothetical President Romney would even GET the chance to make such a decision? Unless I'm mistaken, Mittens, McCain and all the other righties had their focus on Iraq. Part of the reason we were able to get Bin Laden was because Obama shifted focus from Iraq BACK to Afghanistan and taking on Al Qaeda. If Romney were president, would he have made that shift? If we're to take his comments during the debates at face value, then the answer would be "no".
SouthernDragon
Member
Made the CFPB?
Yes? Good policy is good policy. I was raised in a conservative/liberal hispanic household, in a culture that makes American contentious political relations look warm and friendly.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
New Jersey's gonna be so happy when he's gone. And its only a matter of time before Cory Booker, aka Super Mayor, becomes Guvna of NJ.
The 8-minute Forward ad was good. The huge list of accomplishments should become a staple of Obama's campaign ads; group them into themes for each spot, and roll through a few at the end of each ad. And remind people that the GOP was not only opposed to it all, they'd like to reverse it all.
PhoenixDark
Banned
NJ likes Christie, and by the time he's done their economy will be improving alongside the nation's, and he'll take credit when he jumps on the nation scene. I definitely think he has to lose some weight just to show voters he can, but people seem to like his brash personality.
Sirpopopop
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Booker isn't all that great.
He's better than the alternatives, but he's yet another charter school supporting type.
He's also friends with Christie.
New Jersey fucked its last great governor (Jim Florio) pretty hard.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Eh, when I said NJers will be happy, I meant more anecdotally from some of my friends from there.
Bull. They work together because they have to, but I don't buy them being friends for a minute. Maybe "colleagues."
I don't really see Christie as a credible national candidate. He plays perfectly into NJ demographics and Tea Party conservatives -- because of his style but that's about as far as it goes. He's too abrasive for the wider Republican party and too rude for the media not to crucify him on a regular basis.
Frank the Great
Banned
fucking talk radio.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Along with the faces of change series they have going on, cut into ad length. That would be good too.
I don't know which media you follow. The MSM LOVES Christie. They think his abrasive behavior against constituents at times constitutes real talk and he is telling them like it is.
If Obama acted that way, they would of course label him as the Angry Black Man.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Holy shit that Forward ad is sooo good. I'm sitting here thinking "You'd have to grasp at straws to argue that Obama is a bad President." Did he not go far enough on somethings? Sure. But did he do a lot even with opposition? Fuck yes he did.
They love him right now because they can pull him out in small doses and ignore him when it gets too much. Once he's in the perma-spotlight of a national campaign he gets much less funny.
Sirpopopop
Member
They both like charter schools. They both like Michelle Rhee.
That's enough.
Oh yeah, there's also this:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/gov_christie_newark_mayor_cory.html
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Is this guys fucking serious with his art? That might be the worst drawn professional cartoon I've ever seen. Also, it sucks.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
I'm not sure I follow you. I don't pretend to know anything about educational reform in the country, just because a woman seems (or maybe is) anti-union does not mean they're degrading educational reform. Also, woopdifuckingdo, Booker and Christie spoke at an event together, and they shook hands. That's nothing in the political world.
You actually look at Booker and his accomplishments as a leader in Newark, and they're astounding. He's a great political figure and has a great future.
Sirpopopop
Member
It's not about being anti-union.
It's about:
1. Advocating standards championed by an "educational leader" whose record is questionable at best.
2. Following a fad form of reform in education. There is some good to be found in charter schools. However, there is nothing inherent in the charter school model that automatically makes it better than the public school model. See: Brockton High School in Massachusetts.
3. Being advocates for what amounts to a "lottery system" form of education. If you score the voucher or the ticket into a good charter school (and not one of the many failed experiments), then you're set. Otherwise you are stuck in a crumbling public institution.
As for that being just one event, here let me help you out:
1. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04/27/n-j-leaders-share-big-plans-at-time-100-gala/
2. http://nj1015.com/newark-launches-teachers-village-event/
There is also the Oprah, Zuck, Christie & Booker episode.
Very little of what he's done has come without some significant drawback. You don't get a prize just for being less corrupt than the last guy by a wide margin. The only city where such a prize would be merited is Camden. Unlike Camden, Newark is fixable.
NullPointer
Member
I like this a lot.
They could even show the vote tally by party to show off the unified obstruction. I'm not sure much of mainstream USA realizes how much blind lockstep opposition and filibustering has occurred.
Its time for the Republican chickens to come home to roost.
PhoenixDark
Banned
To be fair, the CIA first got details on Bin Laden's courier around 2007/early 2008. So that information was in the pipeline early, went cold, then got hot again in 2009. It was a CIA operation.
I think a McCain or Romney administration would have likely agreed to a surge in Afghanistan, and would also have withdrawn from Iraq due to their government's refusal to not prosecute US soldiers and the previous Bush agreement. So all the pieces would be in place for us to reach Bin Laden's compound regardless of who was president imo.
The question is how would other people handle the situation. We don't have a definitive answer considering it's a hypothetical. I could certainly see McCain agreeing to a SEAL raid on the compound, for instance. Maybe Romney would do, I don't know. The only facts we have are that Obama not only gave the order despite more than half of the security team being against it, he told the entire world he'd do it back in 2007. Meanwhile Romney, McCain, and even Bush publicly admonished him for his Pakistan comments, and Romney went a step further by insinuating Bin Laden wasn't important.
Whoever killed Bin Laden would likely be running on the achievement to win re-election. Republicans are throwing a fit over Obama using this in the election, but let's not forget the last decade of them running on "mommy vs daddy" foreign policy and exploiting terrorism/911 every chance they got. My message to them would just be "cry moar." Obama's foreign policy has been quite aggressive in the war on terror, and republicans don't know how to respond. At first they praised him for following Bush's playbook, then they claimed he was feckless and weak on terror, now...they're crying because he's reminding people that he killed Bin Laden.
I'm amazed the GOP has the gall to bitch about Obama taking credit killing OBL after they spent the entire previous decade exploiting 9/11 for all it's worth. Would these same people crying about Obama taking credit gave him a break of the operation had failed? Only the delusional would think so.
jamesinclair
Banned
So I havent been in Poligaf for a few days....
Just want to know....
Was the Louisiana caucus discussed?
The one where Romney came third?
The one where Ron Paul won?
And by discussed, I mean, loled at?
Just want to know....
Was the Louisiana caucus discussed?
The one where Romney came third?
The one where Ron Paul won?
And by discussed, I mean, loled at?
speculawyer
Member
LOL. They so butt-hurt.
This is the premature celebration their boy did in 2003.
Bin Laden is not going to have an insurgency like Iraq did after that celebration.
Go ahead and keep whining about Obama and the Usama Bin Laden mission so we can keep bringing up the near decade long GOP 9/11 fest . . . which is basically a big celebration of a Bush's failure to keep America safe.
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