Bam Bam Baklava
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San Bernardino shooting
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faceless007
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OK people, I understand you really want to get to the bottom of this, but that doesn't mean you have to post every single picture and factoid that "someone on the Internet" says is of the killers. Did we learn nothing from Boston? Repeating things you hear just because they're going around the Internet is grossly irresponsible at best and potentially damaging to actual innocent people at worst, so unless it's been actually confirmed by law enforcement officials working on the investigation -- note, I did not say confirmed by the media because as we have just seen a shining example of today, the media is in many ways no better or more responsible than overeager armchair Internet detectives -- think long and closely about what you post here, where you are getting your information from, and whether the potential cost of posting incorrect information is worth your zeal to be first.
She is wearing a saree in this pic.
Will give bad name to Indians. Not many people know that saree is not middle-eastern/Muslim dress but rather Indian/Hindu dress.
you do realize there are Muslims in South Asia who wear the sari?
that appears to be his brother's photo but Muslim South Asians also wear it.
victreeb3l
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Any new info on Syed and his wife come out? Any other places verified TMZs claims of him being from an abusive household and being super into guns?
Yeah saw that other thread. This whole media saga is just sad.
Yeah saw that other thread. This whole media saga is just sad.
kaiju
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No need to apologize, the media is clearly at fault here. We are witnessing a clusterfuck of the worst of mainstream news frenzy hyperbole.
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Why is this "Breaking" ?
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The media really tries to milk every bit of information
Edit: actually checked if the guy is perhaps a comedian because it's such a ludicrous thing to say. Nope, correspondent for ABC
Sectorseven
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Their landlord is Mr. Roper? Poor guy can't catch a break.
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SO even worse than terrorists, they're also liars?!?
This is a really bad day for the media.
JetBlackPanda
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Why smash cell phones and stuff?
DrForester
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Somewhere, an Onion Writer is ripping up the story they were working on.
Now that more evidence has been analyzed, it is appearing that this was terrorism in the name of religious fundamentalism. It disgusts me to see such barbaric cruelty inflicted in the name of archaic beliefs used to justify hatred.
However, xenophobia and hatred of all practicioners of religion is not the answer and only plays into ISIS' plans and propoganda.
However, xenophobia and hatred of all practicioners of religion is not the answer and only plays into ISIS' plans and propoganda.
Bam Bam Baklava
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If I could figure out why the fuck they did half the shit they did I'd be a mind reader. So much of it contradicts itself I can see why the FBI is perplexed as well.
Why did you they shoot up their coworkers when there are hundreds of other people in that building? Why did they go back home? Why did they have a fake pipe bomb thrown out of the car when there were apparently real ones that were just sitting in their garage not being used. Whole thing is a damn mess.
Exactly. Antagonizing a whole group of people is just going to lead them to the other side. It's sad that most people don't realize this. They would rather have a war in which they are righteous rather than peace. There are people just as blood thirsty as ISIS in America. They are just two sides of the same coin. People like Trump and xenophobic republicans are no different than the terrorists that do this kind of stuff. The only difference is that they were born in the US as Christians.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i think that was specifically in regards to "terrorist network or terrorist cells" -- not "cellular network or cellular connection"
but the purpose would be to cover tracks or whatever, one would assume
Eighty Deuce
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Two days into an investigation and the crime scene has been fucking contaminated. Good fucking job FBI, a reporter even showed one of the shooters social security card on air.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
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This is what happens when you have 24 hour "news" stations reporting on the same story all day.
RPGCrazied
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And the mom of one of them, her ID was shown as well. Fucking MSNBC. They need to get into trouble for this, but won't sadly.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
the FBI was done with it. they returned it to the owners and are done with that investigation scene.
its basically regular trespassing at this point, they didnt contaminate a crime scene per se because it was no longer a crime scene
She is wearing a saree in this pic.
Will give bad name to Indians. Not many people know that saree is not middle-eastern/Muslim dress but rather Indian/Hindu dress.
Lmao.
South Asian Muslims do exist. No really.
adamsappel
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That's exactly what a terrorist would do!
Calamari41
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The funny part is that this box basically exists on visa applications
Calamari41
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I'm not sure if this press conference and the things the lawyers are saying is exactly the best PR.
They took the hard drive and motherboard out of their computer.
The we're probably being overly cautious.
I was wondering why a landlord would rent to a terrorist!
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Pakistanis wear saris? thought it was an Indian thing.
BocoDragon
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Pakistan used to be a part of India.
I know...
OG_Original Gamer
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Actually I turn 40 on the 31st of this month.
Pakistani and Bangladeshi muslim women wear sarees as well
timetokill
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ghostofsparta
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Bake em away toys
Silent Chief
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She is wearing a saree in this pic.
Will give bad name to Indians. Not many people know that saree is not middle-eastern/Muslim dress but rather Indian/Hindu dress.
You know, Pakistan and India used to be the same country, right?
LyleLanley
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What'd you say chief?
Salwar Kameez is more common, but they do wear saris for special occasions.
It's more common in India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
ABC has posted a picture of her and this little nugget:
Malik came to the U.S. on what is known as a fiancé visa, which allows an American fiancé to petition for his or her partners temporary entry before marriage. For the visa application, the address she listed in her Pakistani hometown, ABC News discovered today, does not exist. Malik received a her Green Card this summer, U.S. officials said.
That's some good work boys.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/female-san-bernardino-shooter-tashfeen-malik/story?id=35589386
Malik came to the U.S. on what is known as a fiancé visa, which allows an American fiancé to petition for his or her partners temporary entry before marriage. For the visa application, the address she listed in her Pakistani hometown, ABC News discovered today, does not exist. Malik received a her Green Card this summer, U.S. officials said.
That's some good work boys.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/female-san-bernardino-shooter-tashfeen-malik/story?id=35589386
Bam Bam Baklava
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I'm in favor of that but at least be clear about what you're talking about. This farook guy was homegrown and likely radicalized through the internet. He wasn't just sent over here from Syria as some kind of agent.
It's not just about dropping bombs on some physical location and then you got a job well done. This is something that is spreading through information.
Total fail
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
maybe he means Truth Bombs
Photo mentioned above per ABC News and a few more quotes
If she truly wasn't radicalized while in school, then there really only could have been 1 to 1.5 years where she could have been, and it would have had to occur while she was at home with her family back in Saudi Arabia in 2013. Either her family knows something, or this materialized while she was in the US.
I would also highlight that ISIS only separated from Al-Qaeda in early 2014. Any decision to support ISIS was more likely to have occurred while in the US.
If she truly wasn't radicalized while in school, then there really only could have been 1 to 1.5 years where she could have been, and it would have had to occur while she was at home with her family back in Saudi Arabia in 2013. Either her family knows something, or this materialized while she was in the US.
I would also highlight that ISIS only separated from Al-Qaeda in early 2014. Any decision to support ISIS was more likely to have occurred while in the US.
Requires a much more long term commitment to counter this terrorism. Frankly we kinda are seeing the effects of trying to use brute force in the Middle East. That can only suppress for so long until the hardened terrorists can repopulate once troops leave.
Frankly that issue needs massive education, infrastructure rebuilding and stuff like the Marshall Plan in Europe
Sorry for the derail, on topic now
I'm just wondering how the public reacts once the initial shock passes by. I can bet hardline politicians will use this to their advantage
Frankly that issue needs massive education, infrastructure rebuilding and stuff like the Marshall Plan in Europe
Sorry for the derail, on topic now
I'm just wondering how the public reacts once the initial shock passes by. I can bet hardline politicians will use this to their advantage
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To be fair.. When going through the immigration process they ask you questions like this..
Are you a terrorist
Are you a nazi
Are you a royal prince/princess with claim to a throne...
Is this US intelligence admitting this or ABC news trying a google maps search? I wouldn't jump on this quite yet.
I would also highlight it appears her family had been living in Saudi Arabia for quite some time, and she was returning to Pakistan for school. Additionally, I can't imagine Pakistan had substantial systems for birth certificates. For all we know, she was being honest about whatever they thought was the name of some small area that really belonged to a larger city.
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