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Want to play The Evil Within on PC at a locked 1080p60? No chance. (Eurogamer)
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I think this is the most relevant benchmark I've seen.
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/the-evil-within-test-gpu.html
The game doesn't appear to balance load correctly across CPU cores.
That graph just showed me that us PC gamers STILL have to deal with games that use one or two cores. Tango Gameworks suck at coding :/.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
I kinda doubt they picked the engine. It seems more likely that bethesda required it.
Actually yeah that's a possibility. Extremely weird though.
plagiarize
Banned
He didn't pick the engine, and I'm sure they hired the best programmers that they could find and afford at the time.
Pathfinder
Member
It's obvious what's going on here.
Microsoft has paid the developer to intentionally gimp the game on their own operating system. Bad Microsoft, bad...
Microsoft has paid the developer to intentionally gimp the game on their own operating system. Bad Microsoft, bad...
MDSLKTR
Member
So confusing... debating if I should switch my ps4 copy to a pc version but I have a gtx760 and I`m not sure if it will handle it with the fov fix and above 30fps
Prophet Steve
Member
So, precisely as the thread title states.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
I think this is the most relevant benchmark I've seen.
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/the-evil-within-test-gpu.html
The game doesn't appear to balance load correctly across CPU cores.
Well, shit.
I can't even wrap my head around how horrible this game is probably be coded. It doesn't even do anything special. It doesn't look groundbreaking, it has no groundbreaking game elements, heck, it even reduces the pixel density by introducing black bords. What the hell went wrong with the development?
ComputerMKII
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Durante pls
SerTapTap
Member
The fuck. How did they make this work on PS4 and Xbox One without any significant parallelism?
If it's problem is really that it doesn't properly use CPU cores...I'm not sure that's Durante-fixable
It doesn't say anything about 1440p. I figured I'd be able to hit a locked 60 at 1080, but if this is a CPU issue then that's different.
Also, article makes no sense:
DSR is working great for me...only hiccup is the game minimizes during the intro videos and you have to click the icon.
Haunted
Member
Japanese developers working with a western engine?
Honestly baffled how a game that looks like this can run so poorly.
Honestly baffled how a game that looks like this can run so poorly.
Is this an idtech5 gif?Lock at 30fps...?
Hell, the game is already cheaper on PC. I saved $15 on my purchase.And by then the game is probably going to be cheaper on PC than PS4.
¯_(ツ_/¯
Sure. YOU did. I hate to break these shocking news to you, but... not everyone is you.
Any problems with TEW's performance the blame should be placed solely on Tango Gameworks, though. They take an engine that is DESIGNED to be 60 FPS no matter what by dynamically adjusting resolution on the fly to maintain 60 FPS... and the first thing they do is lock it down to 30.
Krusenstern
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It is a good a game I can honestly say and it doesn't become bad all of the sudden only because it's locked to 30 fps. Despite what some picky PC elitists say.
Pathfinder
Member
Oh man, this GIF is nightmare fuel.
Guess i acted a bit to quick, wanted to hold out on the game because of the 30fps target but bought it sooner because of people reporting that it seems to run well at 60fps with a 780 (and a voucher that was running out ). I guess i have to see for myself how well this game runs.
). I guess i have to see for myself how well this game runs.TetraGenesis
Member
I just. Don't. Get it.
How does this game run this bad? Wolfenstein was arguably more attractive but even if you disagree there's no arguing the performance (on PS4 at least). 1080p, a reliable 60FPS, crazy busy action scenes with explosions and physics and destruction, and no extreme letter-boxing. It's crazy to me that Evil Within runs so poorly for how it looks and what's going on.
But even so, idTech 5 has been a disappointment. I really, really hope Fallout 4 isn't running on it like some have suggested.
How does this game run this bad? Wolfenstein was arguably more attractive but even if you disagree there's no arguing the performance (on PS4 at least). 1080p, a reliable 60FPS, crazy busy action scenes with explosions and physics and destruction, and no extreme letter-boxing. It's crazy to me that Evil Within runs so poorly for how it looks and what's going on.
But even so, idTech 5 has been a disappointment. I really, really hope Fallout 4 isn't running on it like some have suggested.
wait what... so my PS counter and my eyes are lying to me? because im playing a 1080p 60
edit: oh LOCKED at 60? I have no idea, im sure theres dips sometimes, I dont keep the counter up all the time. dont all games have dips?
edit: oh LOCKED at 60? I have no idea, im sure theres dips sometimes, I dont keep the counter up all the time. dont all games have dips?
lol this guy
Krusenstern
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The PS3 version for example looks like a low quality twitch stream with probably the heaviest case of screen tearing I've ever seen in a game.
It's indeed terrible. It's the same used in Rage right?
Teletraan1
Banned
Looks like these gaming PCs with their weak processors are bottlenecking these super duper well designed games and their engines. I knew Intel was just stringing us along for years and AMD can't even be bothered to compete.
Rage was damn good on consoles tech-wise. On PC though it was kind of a wreck
ClaptoVaughn
Member
Maybe the heavy use of real-time light/shadow casting is what did the engine in. Rage and Wolfenstein relied heavily on baked lighting, and they ran fine.
Strange since it's Id. Their previous engine ran Doom 3, which was practically a pioneer in heavy use of real-time lights and shadows. Some would say the entire game was designed around the use of shadows, not just for visuals but gameplay. For them to create a game engine that can't handle that stuff is almost funny.
Strange since it's Id. Their previous engine ran Doom 3, which was practically a pioneer in heavy use of real-time lights and shadows. Some would say the entire game was designed around the use of shadows, not just for visuals but gameplay. For them to create a game engine that can't handle that stuff is almost funny.
CambriaRising
Member
When was the last time we had a game that was this much of a technical wreck? There is no version that is as good as it can be.
Nah, it was taken from The Last Guardian E3 trailer.
Before it was revealed Mikami was working on a new survival horror game code named Project Zwei one guy posted on a 3D sculpting forum a lot of images of his work and of characters models he was making for a game on UE3 (I'll try to find the link, but it was a looong time ago). Turns out the guy was japanese and working at Tango and his models were for the Mikami game.
It's easy to dismiss the team at Tango as "pretty incompetent" but you have to remember they are a small team, made up of veterans and newcomers to the industry and they were probably forced to scrap their previous work and start again with tech they were not experienced with. Bethesda and Zenimax probably did this to avoid paying royalties to middleware providers.
Considerably bigger teams still had issues with IDtech5...hell even ID had issues. I don't know how Carmack and his team managed to drop the ball so hard this time.
It's a shame he left ID, I wonder how he would approach their next engine considering how their previous one performed.
Edit: Correction, this was not before Zenimax bought ID, but it was before even Project Zwei was revealed. I still believe the game started as a UE3 game.
Tech5 used tricks like baked lighting to do it. If this team added in dynamic lighting and didn't have their own Carmack-quality coder, the game could very well end up performing poorly.
Turin Turambar
Member
One could say that, for the graphics and scope it offers, yes it is unoptimized. Running "easily" at 30fps with a high end machine with said graphics isn't exactly something to praise.
Hellshingu
Member
This is my belief too. If so they should have just paid the fees to avoid the current situation. Lost sales based on performance are more damaging than paying the fee for using UE3, if this is the case. Especially for a new ip that they obviously want to succeed. Not saying that the game is bad at all, I enjoy it very much.
Hopefully whatever engine they are working on right now can avoid all the past mistakes that have been made. With their track record though I am not holding my breath.
Turin Turambar
Member
I think this is the most relevant benchmark I've seen.
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/the-evil-within-test-gpu.html
The game doesn't appear to balance load correctly across CPU cores.
hahah Christ, it's like returning to 2006 when developers were still discovering how get multithreading to work.
justjustin
Member
Yep, no amount of powerful hardware will make a difference. There's definitely a software-related quirk.
PC is still the best version since it's possible to play at 30fps locked most of the time. There's more to the story than just number of frames drawn every second. There are programmatic techniques to mimic motion blur and ways to ensure frames are drawn at even intervals within a second to eliminate juddering. Most console games do this and The Evil Within does both on PC. When locked at 30fps it looks relatively smoother than if you take most PC games and vsync to half your display's refresh rate.
PC is still the best version since it's possible to play at 30fps locked most of the time. There's more to the story than just number of frames drawn every second. There are programmatic techniques to mimic motion blur and ways to ensure frames are drawn at even intervals within a second to eliminate juddering. Most console games do this and The Evil Within does both on PC. When locked at 30fps it looks relatively smoother than if you take most PC games and vsync to half your display's refresh rate.
evil solrac v3.0
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if I can get 4K @ 30FPS i'm fine with that. won't be able to brute force until video cards arae 20nm anyway.
Yeah. A controller does help in that regard. Although, turning down the sensitivity of the mouse might help also.
It's funny actually, but I feel like super fast, twitch responsive gameplay would make the game little easier than it perhaps should be. Looking back on Resident Evil 4, it seemed like Capcom intentionally hindered or restricted movement to make the game more tense. I am not someone who finds a locked 30fps unplayable anyway, but I can see how controls that are a little less responsive might suit a traditional survival horror game. I at least feel the lower framerate would be less of an issue anyway.
That's not to say 30fps is objectively better than 60fps of course.
The Hermit
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I think this is the most relevant benchmark I've seen.
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/the-evil-within-test-gpu.html
The game doesn't appear to balance load correctly across CPU cores.
Wtf...
After dark souls fiasco I wasn't expecting something as bad as that so soon
Since the engine is under Zenimax's roof, Bethesda doesn't need to pay licensing fees or royalties.
99 percent of PC games, you can find a way to make it run at 60 all the time, assuming your hardware is powerful enough
Nothing strange about it. I'm glad I'm using a controller for this game. And there's no doubt that RE4's aiming and movement were intentionally limited.
i7 2600k oc'd 4.5Ghz
MSI 7970 oc'd 1125/1575
The game holds 30fps without noticeable drops, and the mouse controls fine, apart from menus, which are still iffy at 60fps. I can hold 60fps fairly well in the later chapters @1080p, but it does drop. The early chapters have been worse, performance-wise. I'm a little over half-way through the game.
Can I play it at 1080p60 locked? No. Can I have an enjoyable experience at 1080p60 most of the time? Yup.
MSI 7970 oc'd 1125/1575
The game holds 30fps without noticeable drops, and the mouse controls fine, apart from menus, which are still iffy at 60fps. I can hold 60fps fairly well in the later chapters @1080p, but it does drop. The early chapters have been worse, performance-wise. I'm a little over half-way through the game.
Can I play it at 1080p60 locked? No. Can I have an enjoyable experience at 1080p60 most of the time? Yup.