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Watch_Dogs original graphical effects (E3 2012/13) found in game files [PC]
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About the "is a mod" or "isn't a mod" thing, he's what he said:
And I agree. It's still a hard work and it doesn't matter if it's called a mod or not. I get the repercussions, since the idea of not being a mod is to understand it's Ubi's fault, but the guy went out of his way to find settings, change them, test them and then release to the public. We should be grateful for that and then criticize Ubisoft.
And like I said, let's wait for new versions and give feedback so he can improve what he's making. Remember, he's just one guy working on his free time.
And I agree. It's still a hard work and it doesn't matter if it's called a mod or not. I get the repercussions, since the idea of not being a mod is to understand it's Ubi's fault, but the guy went out of his way to find settings, change them, test them and then release to the public. We should be grateful for that and then criticize Ubisoft.
And like I said, let's wait for new versions and give feedback so he can improve what he's making. Remember, he's just one guy working on his free time.
Durante made the point that if you want to be all technical about it, any new code makes a mod; buuut in that very same post he wisely stipulated that it doesn't matter.
Fuck. No.
KojiKnight
Member
Just noticed in the first few seconds you can also see the glitchy headlights. Not completely fixed yet.
Garcia
Member
That's completely irrelevant. TheWorse is keeping it real by not engaging in that drama and focusing exclusively on fixing the game for everyone.
Worse is moving pretty fast, though.
Necromanti
Member
The Steam Summer Sales begin on the 19th, so hold out until then in case it happens to go on sale at all. That would allow adequate time for tweaking of the patch and for people to find any bugs.
The Dear Leader
Banned
In all seriousness, is there a way to make it rain 24/7, this shits gorgeous and I want to see the reflections all the time.
Garcia
Member
Now check the view count.
Self_Destructive
Member
edit.
Good job.
Good job.
Self_Destructive
Member
I just did and edited my post. Never saw it. My bad.
KojiKnight
Member
Couple more quick rain/water shots and I'm out for now.
Looking forward to seeing where this mod goes in the coming days.
Looking forward to seeing where this mod goes in the coming days.
Max Steele
Member
Good luck spotting an invading player one block away with that DOF filter on.
I do not like DOF in gaming. When my eyes focus on an object in real life, the other objects around me go out of focus. As soon as I shift my eyes to another object, that object snaps into focus and the rest go out of focus.
In a game, the DOF is putting objects closest to the camera in focus and the scene in the background is blurred. If I want to shift my focus to a block away, I can't. The game has decided to keep it blurry for me. I do not like this.
VisceralBowl
Member
For future reference:
Flickr, Abload, Picpar, and Minus are better hosts than imgur that do not compromise the quality of your shots.
Flickr, Abload, Picpar, and Minus are better hosts than imgur that do not compromise the quality of your shots.
It is quite literally an on/off setting in the in-game options.
KojiKnight
Member
I agree with this 100%, but in screenshots and videos it can look quite nice. I'll be disabling DoF when I'm actually playing.
It'd be nice to be able to set the DoF ourselves, as most people will never agree on just how much is really enough. I personally think it's still too shallow, as it blurs things that are literally across the street. If I had it my way, I'd limit it to the tail end of the focal length, or about 1 average downtown block away while on foot.
Max Steele
Member
I'm not arguing over the ability to have it or not.
People are saying DOF makes the game look better, and how dare Ubisoft remove it from the final game, and look at how shitty the game looks without it!
And I'm saying DOF does not make the game look better. I don't consider it a "graphics downgrade" getting rid of DOF.
Maybe Ubisoft disabled it because they didn't have the time to get it looking the way they wanted it to? Maybe they received such a wide level of performance from different PC systems using it, that they decided it was better to simply disable it completely rather than deal with support tickets from people who were trying to get it working the way they wanted to but couldn't?
Whatever the reason for disabling it completely, my point still stands that I don't think it makes the game look better.
Headlights still flicker about
Shadows still seem to operate at 5 fps from cars
Bloom is overkill
Not that much more than standard (now the Tunnel Vision has been turned off)
The FPS killer in rain and night is about 8-10 as someone else said and not worth it.
The DoF comes free it seems but makes sense as AA can be turned off on the render here.
Performance and Textures are Identical no change at all, repeat 0 perf boost
To surmise, features turned off/toned down due to aesthetic/artistic reasons or just not finished/buggy.
I was going to say something similar.
DOF looks nice in screenshots and helps eliminate aliasing but it's not a good way to play most games. It should be limited to very light DOF during gameplay - not "I can't see an enemy player a block from here". I didn't like the weird painterly effect GTA IV presented, and that was far more subtle than the screenshots we've seen in here.
The dynamic lighting is something I wish were in the final game, but apparently it has issues.
Depends completly how you use it. A discrete but present DOF at the right moment can add a very cool visual effect.
Now if you're point is just "I don't like DOF" => "DOF is useless", nobody is agree aboutthat. And where Ubisoft fails, its because they dont give us the choice. Period.
SuperEpicGuy
Banned
Wow 12th most viewed thread on neogaf. I'm impressed.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
DOF is not the only thing they disabled, though. Reflection and lighting changes, as well as the addition to rain and civilian density are good improvements.
Pimpbaa
Member
Does any of this improve the bland look of daytime (with no rain)? The game already looked great at night with rain. Also, did anyone ever figure out what the hell is eating up all the vram? Because I haven't seen anything in this game that justifies the need for videocard with more than 2gb of ram or the fact that the ps4 runs at 900p.
PSYGN
Member
That depth of field effect doesn't look too good, tbh. I don't own Watch_Dogs, though, so maybe it looks great.
Garcia
Member
Wow, all time?
Windom Earle
Member
DOF was always in the game though. Use your profiler or aim down the sights and focus on a close object.
iNvid02
Member
i really want to try this but cant be asked to restart, waiting for them to put out that first patch
it was on r/gaming front page and some other big sites have linked back here so yeah its getting some attention
dunno about the ranking, not that it really matters
it was on r/gaming front page and some other big sites have linked back here so yeah its getting some attention
dunno about the ranking, not that it really matters
In my mind this is a two part issue. The first is dishonest reveals setting dishonest expectations (PC settings nowhere near matching console results). The second is something that may be reading too much into the tea leaves, but are we going to see games gimped on PS4 to closer match their XBONE counterparts?
Max Steele
Member
But from what I'm reading regarding those, they are buggy and run terrible. That's probably why they removed them completely, because they weren't able to get them stable for release.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
This is a daytime comparison, courtesy of Rock, Paper, Shotgun.
And to you second question; apparently, for some technical reasons I don't understand, Watch_Dogs loads all texture twice:
Disclaimer: I don't own a gaming PC or Watch Dogs. Welp.
Seeing the events that unfolded today are nice and it's nice to see that this could actually go somewhere, but honestly I think that the (potentially) best thing about this is that eventually Ubisoft might acknowledge this & let us know what happened, or at the very least a disgruntled WD dev could come out with info on what actually happened down the road.
I must say, the game does look significantly better in my eyes, minus the DoF which I can't really decide on. It's a shame that these settings weren't really fleshed out/completed (it doesn't sound like it is to me). As some pointed out, DoF sounds like a subjective thing so maybe that was removed because it simply wouldn't have worked, but the other settings seem to be so much better that, to a point, it's almost impossible to argue that these were removed due to an "artistic" choice, or something along those lines.
I personally buy the story that they were making this game before they realized the reality of the new hardware, made the new hardware with concrete specs the new target, and then simply deemed that all the work that would have been required to make the old target graphics a reality om PC only simply wasn't worth it. I also believe though that could be/is wrong. I just really want to hear more about this game's development.
Seeing the events that unfolded today are nice and it's nice to see that this could actually go somewhere, but honestly I think that the (potentially) best thing about this is that eventually Ubisoft might acknowledge this & let us know what happened, or at the very least a disgruntled WD dev could come out with info on what actually happened down the road.
I must say, the game does look significantly better in my eyes, minus the DoF which I can't really decide on. It's a shame that these settings weren't really fleshed out/completed (it doesn't sound like it is to me). As some pointed out, DoF sounds like a subjective thing so maybe that was removed because it simply wouldn't have worked, but the other settings seem to be so much better that, to a point, it's almost impossible to argue that these were removed due to an "artistic" choice, or something along those lines.
I personally buy the story that they were making this game before they realized the reality of the new hardware, made the new hardware with concrete specs the new target, and then simply deemed that all the work that would have been required to make the old target graphics a reality om PC only simply wasn't worth it. I also believe though that could be/is wrong. I just really want to hear more about this game's development.
If this post is considered to be off topic I'll gladly edit it to be on topic.
I feel a lot of companies do this with multiplatform games on PC. What's the point of doing this? For parity? What a slap in the face of PC gamers who have the platform for better fidelity and performance (on top of everything else). As for people saying that they didn't include it because they wanted it to run on more PC configurations.... That's what graphics settings are for. If a developer has a very scale-able engine then something like this isn't a problem.
I really hope this isn't the case for games like The Witcher 3. I don't think CDPR would do this, but I'm sure they've probably been asked to do it.
I really hope this isn't the case for games like The Witcher 3. I don't think CDPR would do this, but I'm sure they've probably been asked to do it.
-MD-
Member
CD Projekt would be like the one developer that I'd want to believe that wouldn't pull some shit like this but anything can happen I guess.
EroticSushi
Member
Read the "read me" note file. You drop them into your data_win64 folder.
VisceralBowl
Member
Sometimes developers do this to get parity with newer assets created after the initial demos. Sometimes they do it to save space. Sometimes old assets break with newer revisions of the engine. Sometimes more efficient assets are created in place of the old ones.
This game seems to be fine though with the old assets.