We'll probably never get Brock vs. Orton and that's like the one Orton matchup I'd be REALLY EXCITED for. Ugh. I'd pay to see that show.
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WWE Fastlane 2016 |OT| Roundabout to Wrestlemania
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We'll probably never get Brock vs. Orton and that's like the one Orton matchup I'd be REALLY EXCITED for. Ugh. I'd pay to see that show.
JesseEwiak
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I just think they'll be happier if they accept reality, instead of getting upset when every wrestler they like gets booked horribly (because everybody outside of Brock, 'Taker and Triple H, including Roman, gets booked horribly).
Just like I think Bernie fans should accept the fact that Hillary will be the nominee because you can't build Sweden in a day. In a way, hardcore Sanders supporters and hardcore Internet fans are a lot alike in more ways than you'd think.
Evening Musuko
Black Korea
*Booker T Voice* That right there!!!!
An absolute shame what they've done with Roman. Of course as others have said, it's not just what they've done with Roman, but WWE has been so goddamn lazy from the top down.
And it's a shame because I seriously like the roster. I can't think of anyone I dislike and with the stack of talent down in NXT there's a ton of potential for great matches and story lines. But I guess if WWE can get money being lazy, then why put in the effort?
You have Brock face HHH. Because Brock fighting for the title is going to draw more money than Roman or Dean fighting for the title. He's also the only guy who will actually get unilaterally cheered going up against the top heel champion.
You don't come across as giving a shit about other posters being happy at all. Don't feed me that
Also you're a hardcore internet fan, just one of a different kind.
JesseEwiak
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I mean, I don't care if they're happier. I just think they'd be happier.
All I know is since I just started caring about watching good matches or angles by themselves, whether it'd be 70's Memphis or matches from Roman "Four Star" Reigns and just assumed that current day WWE was going to be booked like a trainwreck, I've had far less stress when it comes to this fake carny shit I still like for some reason.
And yes, I am. But, I'm a hardcore Internet fan who actually knows the facts on the ground instead of being obsessed with how I want the world to be, just like I'm a hardcore political geek who knows the facts on the ground instead of wanting to turn the USA into Denmark in one Presidential term.
RiccochetJ
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I hope it's him vs AJ for WM. God what a show they would put on.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If it were up to me, I would just fire Lesnar and he wouldn't be on the card at all, but that's just because I can't go back in time and make him sell basically anyone's offense. I don't like Brock Lesnar at all because I find him boring - not because he isn't good at wrestling or interesting as a character, but because I don't care about invincible Superman wrestling, even if he's morally ambiguous Superman. The last two years of wrestling have set up that there is no such thing as a credible opponent for Brock Lesnar, which makes keeping the title off of him borderline idiotic at this point.
If you have to set up a special match that includes weapons so that it's even vaguely sort of believable that one of the participants could get in any kind of offense, you fucked up the way you sell one of the characters. Ambrose isn't super jacked but he's still quite a bit larger than say, Daniel Bryan was, and HHH sold it when Bryan kicked him. If you have any interest at all in setting up Ambrose in a match with Brock, don't tell Brock to no-sell every single move Ambrose is doing.
SamualDude
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Triple H vs Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania is a good match. But the title weakens it in my opinion.
The story was working fine and Roman getting the belt after TLC and so did Triple H being the one to eliminate Roman from the Rumble but giving the belt to Triple H made it so predictable. Now don't get me wrong but predictable can be good ie Daniel Bryan winning the Title at Mania 30 but predictable works best when it's what the fans want. ie Batista winning the Rumble in 2014 as when it backfires.
The story was working fine and Roman getting the belt after TLC and so did Triple H being the one to eliminate Roman from the Rumble but giving the belt to Triple H made it so predictable. Now don't get me wrong but predictable can be good ie Daniel Bryan winning the Title at Mania 30 but predictable works best when it's what the fans want. ie Batista winning the Rumble in 2014 as when it backfires.
RiccochetJ
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Rusev or Del Rio.
TheStruggler
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no they won't the audience stood up, applauded and cheered when HHH threw roman out of the ring at the rumble. The next few weeks will be trying to force people to boo HHH but it will not happen. People will cheer HHH over roman anyday
UberTag
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The part-timers they bring in for that match will get cheers. So there's that.
Evening Musuko
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Styles vs Owens to be pushed to the pre-show confirmed.
Match is turned into a random lumberjack match the day of the show.
Match is then later turned into a random battle royale that the Great Khali wins for some reason.
Because it would be something we haven't seen.
The Silver
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HHH wants no part of Brick, last time they fought Brok wasn't God King yet but now Bork is the type of dude who would no sell the pedigree and HHH would rather die than let that happen.
It's possible that Ambrose fights Lesnar since the Wyatt's didn't get involved. But if you do that, who do you have the Wyatt's lose to?
blackaroni
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Beautiful moment....he was still selling that Kimura Lock.
If he would have stayed healthy and if WWE would have played their cards right, Daniel Bryan would have been the perfect guy to face and beat Brock Lesnar as the ultimate underdog. Bryan was super over as a face and Bryan had wins over Cena, Orton, Batista, and HHH. Like Brock, he never lost his title. He basically had an equally impressive list of big wins, barring Undertaker. That match would have been fucking cash.
Discotheque
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man this was great.
UberTag
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Owens could make a shit sandwich look delicious.
RiccochetJ
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If anything, I'm looking forward to RAW. There's so many spots on the card that need to be filled. So many feuds need to be started!
And where the hell is Undertaker going to fit in all of this? I could have sworn he was going to make an appearance tonight.
And where the hell is Undertaker going to fit in all of this? I could have sworn he was going to make an appearance tonight.
I'm not taking it personally, nor am I salty, which you seem to really want me to be. I'm pointing out the ignorance that runs rampant in those kinds of discussions that stems from a lack of understanding. It's mostly a form of cheerleading for people who are a little too invested in these matters.
It's all good though. You balee what you want. If it makes you feel any better, I'm glad to have helped. Because that's what Roman Reigns is here for. To lift you up with those powerful arms of his, and make you balee that you can, and that you will.
It has to happen at some point. Barack has run out of opponents to face. There's, like, no one left.
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It's as if the heavens themselves shine upon this man.
Beautiful moment....he was still selling that Kimura Lock.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
What difference did it make? Roman no-sold it the second it was released.
Vestal
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Has its own PPV now.
That's harsh man. I wasn't expecting an answer like that.
I like the final boss kind of vibe he has going so we obviously differ there. I think one of the things WWE is lacking right is more variety in their characters. They need to establish a clear hierarchy with their superstars like they did in the past. Barack is one form of that, but beyond a few others like Cena, Jimmy, Reigns, and now what's looking like Ambrose, they don't pay enough attention to the rest. I figure your problem could be resolved if they just did that.
Exactly. Which made him playing up the move all the more annoying when Roman no-sold it.
BadAss2961
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Triple H vs Roman Reigns... Who the fuck is booking this shit?
funkystudent
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That moment when you are totally OK with Triple H keeping the belt for another few months.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Triple H
Batman.
Triple H in the main event of Wrestlemania in 2016 as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion.
All I know is I saw Kevin Owens in a match with Dolph Ziggler today, and I remember seeing him kick out of like three AAs against Cena a few months ago. Something clearly went wrong when I wasn't looking here, because no one should ever have to face Dolph Ziggler unless they're destroying him for ten minutes.
BadAss2961
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Triple H is done, no one wants to see him in this spot anymore.
Roman just ain't ready yet.
Brock is the only guy they have left that's totally legit as the top guy. He and Heyman have everyone beat by a mile. He should be defending again as a monster heel, against anyone that people would actually root for. That leaves Ambrose or Styles. Preferably Styles for me. With all the injuries, that would've been a satisfying main event had they built AJ correctly up to this point instead of trying to make him Daniel Bryan 2.0.
Roman just ain't ready yet.
Brock is the only guy they have left that's totally legit as the top guy. He and Heyman have everyone beat by a mile. He should be defending again as a monster heel, against anyone that people would actually root for. That leaves Ambrose or Styles. Preferably Styles for me. With all the injuries, that would've been a satisfying main event had they built AJ correctly up to this point instead of trying to make him Daniel Bryan 2.0.
Maybe they think this would work like Hunter vs Batista.
And while one can certainly make the case that Batista (at that time) is similar to Roman, good look, well built, but somewhat lacking in charisma, which Batista would later develop as a heel. The issue is that people do not hate Hunter in 2016 as much as they hated him back then during his Terror of Doom run.
If anything fans sorta like him as a relic from Attitude Era, him being a part time wrestler, and being the face of NXT. And this match has been a foregone conclusion, as is the result at Mania. Nobody thinks Hunter is winning. The heat for him to lose the strap is non existing.
Thus the dynamic is not what they wanted. And Batista also at least had a much better build, which was one of the few really well done slow builds in WWE history, in addition to the hispanic audience gravitating towards him.
The PPV was mostly garbage, what else is new. Its a RAW episode with a slightly different set and less talking.
And while one can certainly make the case that Batista (at that time) is similar to Roman, good look, well built, but somewhat lacking in charisma, which Batista would later develop as a heel. The issue is that people do not hate Hunter in 2016 as much as they hated him back then during his Terror of Doom run.
If anything fans sorta like him as a relic from Attitude Era, him being a part time wrestler, and being the face of NXT. And this match has been a foregone conclusion, as is the result at Mania. Nobody thinks Hunter is winning. The heat for him to lose the strap is non existing.
Thus the dynamic is not what they wanted. And Batista also at least had a much better build, which was one of the few really well done slow builds in WWE history, in addition to the hispanic audience gravitating towards him.
The PPV was mostly garbage, what else is new. Its a RAW episode with a slightly different set and less talking.
excelsiorlef
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Frankly it might have been one of my favortie parts, but I'm super biased, The Social Outcasts are just hilarious to me
UberTag
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Slightly different set? Is that what we call slightly tweaked lighting and an extra announce desk in 2016?
Brock cannot be in the main event of anything right now.
He's the top face and biggest attraction the company has...with nothing even resembling a top threat. He's Austin without McMahon/Rock/HHH waiting in the wings. It's kinda the worst case scenario.
When the same thing happened (but with him as a heel last year) it sort of worked because the contender the fans wouldn't accept was pinned by the upstart Rollins in a total sidestepping of conventions, getting the belt on someone fresh, turning Brock face and giving him a natural rematch at the next big show which they parleyed into a pretty decent feud with the Undertaker.
This time, there's no Undertaker. There's nothing besides going rather outside the box or trying to energize something with the Wyatts.
He's the top face and biggest attraction the company has...with nothing even resembling a top threat. He's Austin without McMahon/Rock/HHH waiting in the wings. It's kinda the worst case scenario.
When the same thing happened (but with him as a heel last year) it sort of worked because the contender the fans wouldn't accept was pinned by the upstart Rollins in a total sidestepping of conventions, getting the belt on someone fresh, turning Brock face and giving him a natural rematch at the next big show which they parleyed into a pretty decent feud with the Undertaker.
This time, there's no Undertaker. There's nothing besides going rather outside the box or trying to energize something with the Wyatts.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They're going to give Ambrose the briefcase this year and have him lose the cash-in, Goldust will come out to Shattered Dreams just because fuck you that's why
I guess its sorta slightly different set, they printed out different graphics!?
Also look where RAW is going to be headed:
Chicago
Pittsburgh
Philadelphia
Brooklyn
The Road To Wrazzledazzle, a 46 year old practically retired wrestler vs a guy who aint over.
Queue in Lapsed Fan Hunter impression: "He is going over to Wrestlemania, to go over, but he is not over, i am over, its all over!"
Also look where RAW is going to be headed:
Chicago
Pittsburgh
Philadelphia
Brooklyn
The Road To Wrazzledazzle, a 46 year old practically retired wrestler vs a guy who aint over.
Queue in Lapsed Fan Hunter impression: "He is going over to Wrestlemania, to go over, but he is not over, i am over, its all over!"
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