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Wrestlemania XXX Week |OT| We are all legit shook

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That match not being as much of a clusterfuck helped, yeah. But it's more the opening segment, Cesaro's moment with The Giant, the ending of the Taker match and the glorious Bryan stuff that elevated this one.

If Bray had gone over, I might have considered it the best.

Truth. Good job Vince.
Not that loser Sunflower haha
 

Anth0ny

Member
It did not. It actually made this wrestle mania legendary. The reason we are talking about this match is because it was a massive swerve. Bryan was gonna win we all knew it.

The reactions from the crowd were amazing they were LEGIT shook. And so was everyone else. Its a moment like that which makes wrestle mania memorable. Moments no one was expecting.

eh. sounds like russo logic to me.

no one expected the finger poke of doom. just because it's a swerve doesn't make it good imo.
 
Top 2. 17 might be better, not by much.

17 is the only Mania I'd possibly cede to. Just. It's a toss up for top spot between 30 and 17 for me. It will be difficult for future generations to b judge the quality of the PPV because it's impossible to relive the raw emotion felt when Lesnar pinned Taker. I've never felt as shell shocked and in hindsight people will begin to understand the crumbs were there and struggle to understand why we didn't see them.
 

mut321

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I don't have a problem with Cena winning because "he's Cena", I just feel like Wyatt could have used the win as a stepping stone to better things. I'm not saying he is ruined or anything but just curious as to where he goes from here.
 
I don't have a problem with Cena winning because "he's Cena", I just feel like Wyatt could have used the win as a stepping stone to better things. I'm not saying he is ruined or anything but just curious as to where he go from here.

Rematch at extreme rules where him and Cena beat each other to a bloody pulp with Bray coming out on top. Simple.
 

led4lyfe

Member
People in my section were crying and some even left after the taker match.

Spotted Gregory helms on bourbon surrounded by typical hardy boy groupees. He seemed to be enjoying himself.
 

mut321

Neo Member
Rematch at extreme rules where him and Cena beat each other to a bloody pulp with Bray coming out on top. Simple.

I understand a rematch is the next logical step (this is wrestling after all) but I just wish they had given him this one to keep some momentum and let Cena take the win in the next match. But I can't complain I loved the ppv.
 

strobogo

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The first gif is the enduring image to me of Taker from this Wrestlemania and that is a god damn bummer and a half. And on a rewatch, it is even MORE of a bummer because I can see the disappointment in Taker's eyes on the match and on his body in general. I thought seeing Hogan and Flair in TNA was a bummer, but TNA doesn't really count. Seeing Taker realize his body was done at Wrestlemania is not enjoyable in any way at all.
 

kurbaan

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eh. sounds like russo logic to me.

no one expected the finger poke of doom. just because it's a swerve doesn't make it good imo.

lol what? Its not even the same thing. The streak ended Brock is a crazy monster and thats it. It was very entertaining and it will be talked about for a while and it was not something farcical like finger poke of doom.

I don't really give a shit about booking and all that they should do this crap. All i know is they took what used to be a certainty and turned it into OMG amazing legit shook moment.
 
People in my section were crying and some even left after the taker match.

Spotted Gregory helms on bourbon surrounded by typical hardy boy groupees. He seemed to be enjoying himself.

Wow. What a way to just piss away a ton of money. They missed the best match of the night because WTFBRICKLASERSUX!BBQ!1!
 
Despite the shocking turn of events with the undertaker actually losing, Daniel Bryan came out of Wrestlemania 30 the big star. He beat Triple H, Randy Orton, and Batista in one night, won two different matches in one night and is now carrying around both belts and to top it all off it happened at Wrestlemania 30. After how he was treated since summerslam it is almost unbelievable they actually gave him the spotlight.
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He was "treated" like that to build to this moment. It's called long term booking.
 

RobbieNick

Junior Member
Cena did two back to back Wrestlemania main events only to be mid-card in this one and everyone's upset that he didn't job to a newcomer crazy hillbilly? Also he DID put over Bryan at Summer Slam. Don't get me wrong, I dig Bray Wyatt's gimmick but you're basically asking the WWE to bury Cena by having him lose a mid card after main eventing twice. I'd rather Wyatt won, but I'm definitely not upset by it as I was expecting Cena to win.

I will say that if they were gonna have his storyline during the match be Bray Wyatt pushing Team Fruity to the dark side or whatever, they should have promoted it that way. Better yet, let Cena win in a heel fashion to push him over as a heel himself. I want heel Cena already dammit.
 

kurbaan

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Love how even Brock Plant is at a loss for words.


Ricardo's suit is amazing. Any better .gifs of it floating around?

So i keep seeing this a lot in these threads. Has there actually been any proof or admittance that WWE is hiring plants to put in audiences for some reason? Seems like a lot of work and pretty stupid. I mean how many people can you plan in a audience of 10s of thousands.
 
that "Last Ride" was... yeah.

this was the real "end of an era." the Attitude Era got crushed this Mania. Taker, Kane, Big Show, HHH, NAO all lost. It actually felt like a huge spectacle of a show while the last few WMs were just standard PPVs when all was said and done.
 
Amazing.

WWE Network was fantastic. Wrestlemania was fantastic. Even Botchamania Legend Hulk Hogan was fantastic. I wonder if Austin and The Rock were thrown out to save him from drowning, either way... amazing.
 
Checking some Twitter reactions... Fucking lol at the people so upset they say they're leaving for TNA. They'll be back after 2 minutes (if they even last THAT long) of watching it.

You couldn't even fit the WrestleMania logo that was on the stage into a TNA arena if you laid the thing flat. I couldn't imagine being a TNA wrestler watching WM and then having to go and do a show of your own. It make TNA look like Pop Warner compared to the NFL.
 

strobogo

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Cena did two back to back Wrestlemania main events only to be mid-card in this one and everyone's upset that he didn't job to a newcomer crazy hillbilly? Also he DID put over Bryan at Summer Slam. Don't get me wrong, I dig Bray Wyatt's gimmick but you're basically asking the WWE to bury Cena by having him lose a mid card after main eventing twice. I'd rather Wyatt won, but I'm definitely not upset by it as I was expecting Cena to win.

I will say that if they were gonna have his storyline during the match be Bray Wyatt pushing Team Fruity to the dark side or whatever, they should have promoted it that way. Better yet, let Cena win in a heel fashion to push him over as a heel himself. I want heel Cena already dammit.

"Burying" is a FAR over used term online. Losing a match isn't being buried. Losing a match when it is important for you to lose a match isn't being buried. The closest thing to a burial tonight was Ryder getting eliminated by 3MB and Miz (who has flip flopped between face and heel multiple times over the past 5 months with no reason given, was bitch slapped by Arnold) getting eliminated by Santino in the battle royal. Ryder even being on the show was a massive step up for him, so that leaves Miz and fuck Miz.


Burying is putting out a DVD just to shit one someone. Burying is a heel repeatedly saying the face is a loser and not as his level and then beating him to prove and send him back to the mid card. John Cena losing tonight would not have been a burial of any kind. It would have made sense for the storyline he's in and the over all theme of the show. I'm not at all going to say Bray was buried because he looked like a STAR tonight, but Cena not losing made him look pretty shitty when HHH, Batista, Big Show, and UNDERTAKER lost clean tonight. You could say that Cena winning was to keep people happy with all the big stars losing tonight, but I think that's bullshit. The storyline dictated that he should lose. Bray's push dictated that he should lose. The crowd WANTED him to lose. Cena going over tonight was as stupid as Cena going over at Summerslam against the Nexus.
 
Checking some Twitter reactions... Fucking lol at the people so upset they say they're leaving for TNA. They'll be back after 2 minutes (if they even last THAT long) of watching it.

You couldn't even fit the WrestleMania logo that was on the stage into a TNA arena if you laid the thing flat. I couldn't imagine being a TNA wrestler watching WM and then having to go and do a show of your own. It make TNA look like Pop Warner compared to the NFL.

What are people angry about?
 
99.9% is about Taker losing. People acting like Vince McMahon shot their dog or something.

Meh, I was legit shook and I liked it. The crowd reactions were amazing too. If they had built it up too much everyone would have known and it just wouldn't have been the same. It was a nice surprise as far as I'm concerned.
 

strobogo

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Announcing tonight was FUCKING TERRIBLE. The whole god damn show. Owen voices showed up in FOUR different matches, and none of them were sincere at all. JBL shitting on Bryan all night was fucking stupid. The complete lack of enthusiasm for UNDERTAKER LOSING AT FUCKING WRESTLEMANIA was unreal. I mean, announcing has been bad for years, but they made what should be the biggest moment in Wrestlemania (and by extension, WWE history) sound like just another thing.


I wonder how many times JBL called Bryan a goat, farm animal, or garden gnome.
 

UberTag

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99.9% is about Taker losing. People acting like Vince McMahon shot their dog or something.
Oh no... the out-of-shape, broken down 49-year-old semi-retired guy lost to the 36-year-old physical monstrosity that was legit enough to compete in the UFC and win their heavyweight title.

This is a victory for realistic outcomes and gives D.Brine a ready-made nemesis. How unfortunate!
 

RobbieNick

Junior Member
Amazing.

WWE Network was fantastic. Wrestlemania was fantastic. Even Botchamania Legend Hulk Hogan was fantastic. I wonder if Austin and The Rock were thrown out to save him from drowning, either way... amazing.

I was expecting some hitches. Outside of some parts repeating 3 seconds over (which I think is done to keep the stream buffering in HD), it was FLAWLESS. I didn't expect it to work as well as it did.

Anyone else notice the audience member dressed as Lupin the third?


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I appreciate everything Taker has done but seeing him now is just sad. He seems pretty perceptive to the point where if this made sense to him, that's totally fine. I can't really muster up any negative feelings to the outcome even though I really didn't care about the match as it happened. It's like someone hitting a game-winning shot and you're not even watching. It's hard to have a legit reaction.
 

Anth0ny

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lol what? Its not even the same thing. The streak ended Brock is a crazy monster and thats it. It was very entertaining and it will be talked about for a while and it was not something farcical like finger poke of doom.

I don't really give a shit about booking and all that they should do this crap. All i know is they took what used to be a certainty and turned it into OMG amazing legit shook moment.

Really? I did not get this impression at all.

Besides the fact that the match was awful, dude looked dumbfounded after it was over. What a crazy monster!

Brock was a beast at Royal Rumble. Not tonight. He beat up an old man, that's what it looked it.
 
Meh, I was legit shook and I liked it. The crowd reactions were amazing too. If they had built it up too much everyone would have known and it just wouldn't have been the same. It was a nice surprise as far as I'm concerned.

So did I, Nothing has made my jaw drop for that long. The Heyman reaction and them not playing Brock's music to let the crowd silence sink in was PERFECT. It was an awesome moment I'll never forget.
 
Really? I did not get this impression at all.

Besides the fact that the match was awful, dude looked dumbfounded after it was over. What a crazy monster!

Brock was a beast at Royal Rumble. Not tonight. He beat up an old man, that's what it looked it.

And losing to that old man would have just made him look weak. At least the idea of the streak is enough to erase most impressions of how that terrible match actually played out. It's probably the best you can hope for now, Taker really should have ended it a year or two ago.
 
Cena did two back to back Wrestlemania main events only to be mid-card in this one and everyone's upset that he didn't job to a newcomer crazy hillbilly? Also he DID put over Bryan at Summer Slam. Don't get me wrong, I dig Bray Wyatt's gimmick but you're basically asking the WWE to bury Cena by having him lose a mid card after main eventing twice. I'd rather Wyatt won, but I'm definitely not upset by it as I was expecting Cena to win.

I will say that if they were gonna have his storyline during the match be Bray Wyatt pushing Team Fruity to the dark side or whatever, they should have promoted it that way. Better yet, let Cena win in a heel fashion to push him over as a heel himself. I want heel Cena already dammit.
The thing is that Cena's booking against heels has completely askews common sense and has been for YEARS. Losing against a heel and then having to come back and prove yourself by winning another match down the road is a legit engaging story line. Instead, Cena gets the win immediately, the feud continues, and he wins the rematches. It's supposedly about keeping the kids happy, but are kids actually going to be upset if he loses a match and then gets a comeback victory later on?

You weren't kidding about the disappointment in his eyes. RIP Taker.
 

Anth0ny

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And losing to that old man would have just made him look weak. At least the idea of the streak is enough to erase most impressions of how that terrible match actually played out. It's probably the best you can hope for now, Taker really should have ended it a year or two ago.

Brock already looked weak after losing to cena in his FIRST MATCH back. and fat HHH last year at wrestlemania.

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agree with the bolded, though.
 
Cena did two back to back Wrestlemania main events only to be mid-card in this one and everyone's upset that he didn't job to a newcomer crazy hillbilly? Also he DID put over Bryan at Summer Slam. Don't get me wrong, I dig Bray Wyatt's gimmick but you're basically asking the WWE to bury Cena by having him lose a mid card after main eventing twice. I'd rather Wyatt won, but I'm definitely not upset by it as I was expecting Cena to win.

No, we're asking cena to put over a guy fast becoming one of the top heels in the company, and a guy who Bryan put over CLEAN at the rumble, and who the Shield put over at the chamber and the following night.
 
Getting knocked down and losing (a match) only to get back up and win later is actually overcoming adversity, like a "real" superhero. Life lessons for the, apparent, legions of children looking for a guiding light. Cena just completely fabricates that part and wins. There is no triumph, only Cena.
 
So did I, Nothing has made my jaw drop for that long. The Heyman reaction and them not playing Brock's music to let the crowd silence sink in was PERFECT. It was an awesome moment I'll never forget.

This 100% this ending was balls out insane and I'm glad they took this route instead of a Bryan loss. One of the most surreal images in pro wrestling and I'd do it again if I had the chance. In-fucking-credible. I'm typing this as I watch the replay and just wow.
 

Kaladin

Member
The Streak was one of those things you thought would never end. Whether Taker retired on it one year, took a year off or whatever.....I thought it would never end. Every year it has provided me with suspense and nearly every year has succeeded in making me question just a little if Undertaker could be beaten...but he never was. When they beat him last night, I was deflated a bit. The Streak has been around for as long as I have been a fan. It's kind of weird actually going forward without it. Should it have been Brock Lesnar? He's as good as anyone they could pick for that I guess, because nobody would have been perfect. If there is a bright side to this, now the rumored Undertaker vs Sting match can happen on even grounds. Two supernatural legends going at it, for one final match for the both of them. A real Wrestlemania dream match with nothing on the line but legacies.

Am I ok with The Streak being broken? I'll tell you when I'm no longer legit shook. For now though, wrestling got me....me and thousands in the Superdome and millions watching everywhere. I like that....even if it had to come at the expense of something I have grown up with.
 
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