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for being unfashionable? Much like white girls networking? Sure.

do you even know what chinos are

 

[Koppai]

I'm a little confused, has there ever been a decade where white people driving cadillacs were met with any amount of suspicion on how they acquired said cadillac?

Also an automobile is not really the same as a the natural hairtype or hairstyle of a person being seen as below means, ghetto and inappropriate. And success having to come from changing everything natural about you to fit in and that still not being enough.

The twitter posters themselves are certainly in the wrong but trying to make light of the impact of cultural appropriation says a lot about you.

The way I see it is they are attacking it because they say it is only for black people, and she is not allowed to wear her hair that way because she is white. I think it's stupid, she liked the hair style and decided to get it, I see nothing wrong with it. I have a problem with people saying a certain part of culture belongs to them Because of the color of their skin.

She wasn't sitting there trying to make a statement, and she even apologized to those who thought otherwise for any confusion the pic may have caused.

 

[SonnyBoy]

Yup your feelings don't matter at! We should have to handle these things with kid gloves. I understand how fucked up society treats blacks. I've rallied against the racists in the police, I've rallied against the racists in the government. This is not racist, this is not cultural theft. It's a harmless act by a little girl. Again, i apologize, theres nothing more I can do. If she wants to wear braids then let her.

Nobody is defending what was done to the girl. It was an atrocity, that's all there is to it.


However, some of us realize that behind the atrocity is pain and hurt. And we're simply explaining how black women struggle with "hair". Not defending it, not justifying it. Just simply saying, XYZ circumstances lead to hurt, insecurity, anger.

 

[Ovid]

People are stupid.

Who gives a crap if someone wants to braid their hair.

Shit like this makes me angry.

 

[Crocodile]

I think the braids look good on the girl and its a shame that she was verbally attacked on Twitter by some over-eager individuals I think she should keep them

That being said, looking over the thread, some people are being deliberately obtuse when it comes to the concept of cultural appropriation and what it actually means. No I don't think this girl specially has anything to do with it or did anything wrong but I know the root of the cause for the anger (however unjustified in this particular circumstance) of those Twitter users and seeing that "root" dismissed is kind of annoying and frustrating.

 

[theignoramus]

Shitty tweets over a total non-issue.

Indeed. Twitter is a cesspool for dumb shit too.

Sidenote though its amazing all the screen names that popped in to condemn racism when it was applied to a young white girl. You don't see them in all the other racism threads.

it's like "ah ha!, finally I can unleash all this veiled racial tension now that the shoe for once is on the other foot!"

lol. Shots fired.

 

[oneHeero]

i get why people are mad. there's severe controversy over white people emulating black hair styles, and it often feels like white people only embrace certain elements of black culture when it suits them to do so.

but at the same time, you've got to respect personal agency to do what you want with your body (and by extension, hair).

there's no real right answer, but harassment isn't it. getting indignant over a haircut is kinda ridiculous.

It's not like every white person does that let alone the other race to do that. (You aren't saying that) so it's kinda dumb for them to be mad for that reason, more hypocritical than anything.

More power to the girl, I think they looked nice on her and I don't care for those braids much.

 

[coleco]

I don't think anyone here thinks she is making a political/racial statement.

I'm not sure why you're equating "understanding" with "justifying". Understanding is not justification, it's just...understanding. It's acknowledgment of where a group is coming from, why they feel the way they feel, and why they unfairly attacked her. It's not justification, it's not an excuse.

I'm sorry but I disagree. This 'group' (just a few individuals on twitter representing only themselves) is coming from nowhere. There's absolutely no value on what they did and whatever their motives are or however they feel it's not that 12 year old girl problem. They are not under any circumstance or optic doing anything understandable.

They are not fighting any kind of good fight like they think they are, just like the girl is not appropiating anything from anybody like she is being accused of. It's just a group of individuals jumping on kid.

 

[Derwind]

The way I see it is they are attacking it because they say it is only for black people, and she is not allowed to wear her hair that way because she is white. I think it's stupid, she liked the hair style and decided to get it, I see nothing wrong with it. I have a problem with people saying a certain part of culture belongs to them Because of the color of their skin.

Yes they were in the wrong, those select twitter users. Lets seperate that particular issue from what the majority of people mean when discussing cultural appropriation.

More specifically the effects of it.

 

[Angelus Errare]

I apologize.

It's ridiculous. You're being ridiculous. She's a 12 year old gir. If she wants'; to wear braids then let her. Why does she need a reason? This is a completely harmless thing and you people make this into something worthy of outrage.

Holy fuck, it's as if I'm talking to that one remedial guy in the class who keeps making a statement counter to the clarification by both the teacher and their fellow students.

Let's try this one more time as I explain it to you like you're five.

I.am.not.and.haven't.been.talking.about.the.little.girl.since.my.first.post.

We.are.talking.about.why."cultural appropriation".is.a.thing.in.American.Society.at.large. We're.talking.about.why.minorities.complain.about.it.

Everyone is in agreement that the attackers are idiots, what myself and others are trying to do against an increasing amount of remedial posts is separating this issue with what cultural appropriation is at large within America and why minority groups cry out about it. DIVORCE YOURSELF FROM THE LITTLE GIRL, let it fucking go.

No.one.is.defending.the.attackers. I have not defended the attackers. I wrote a damn essay on why they are wrong and who they should be mad at (ie not the little girl but rather our media) yet you sit here and insist that I'm defending the attackers and I myself am being racist against this little girl? Dear fucking god, I hope your education is free because if not you definitely need to get your parents to get a refund on it because it has done you absolutely NO good.

Miss me with that "you people" nonsense. Either debate with actual points or stop posting with your kneejerk drive by nonsense.

And you'd still act as if she committed some grave affront on black culture. Theres nothing racist about this. She wore braids and that's that.

What are you talking about?!! For fuck sakes, you are being remedial as shit right now and I've been more than patient with you. I never said anything about this girl being racist or that this was racist. Seriously actually read the fucking posts in the thread. It's not a tall order, I'm not asking you to solve P versus NP for fucks sakes.

From all of your pointless comments, I think it's safe to say this thread and it's contents are far beyond your comprehension and critical thinking skills.

 

[Koppai]

Yes they were in the wrong, those select twitter users. Lets seperate that particular issue from what the majority of people mean when discussing cultural appropriation.

More specifically the effects of it.

Oh, I did not mean black people as a group all think like that, sometimes I am really not good at explaining what I mean. I really only meant the Twitter users being idiots. I rarely ever see stuff like this in daily life,I only see it online.

Also on another note, when I read the thread title, I thought she had gotten physically attacked. Op needs to change the thread title for real.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Also on another note, when I read the thread title, I thought she had gotten physically attacked. Op needs to change the thread title for real.

Yeah, this.

 

[Trey]

The way I see it is they are attacking it because they say it is only for black people, and she is not allowed to wear her hair that way because she is white. I think it's stupid, she liked the hair style and decided to get it, I see nothing wrong with it. I have a problem with people saying a certain part of culture belongs to them Because of the color of their skin.

She wasn't sitting there trying to make a statement, and she even apologized to those who thought otherwise for any confusion the pic may have caused.

the black community is sensitive to white folks doing particularly "black things," because black people are generally derided for it while the whites who borrow or steal from the culture make a buck off it and are given praise. Rapping is only cool when Macklemore does it. Twerking was trashy until it was a thing Miley Cyrus did.

It contributes to a feeling that black people are tolkenized and not honestly accepted in the wider media and/or American culture, so it leads to defensiveness any time someone white does something most associated with black people. Mostly the criticism is levied toward institutions (magazines, television shows, celebrities) but some individuals catch shit for it as well.

 

[Violence Jack]

And in what alternate reality do you live in? I'd like to move my family there.

You cannot simply disregard the truths of an entire people because you want to believe "people are people". Their actions were repulsive but you can't simply deny the hurt and pain that is the primary cause of it.

What hurt and pain are you talking about? I've seen lots of white men and women (some examples which have already been posted) have braids, and no one said a word. Unless I'm missing something within black culture (which I am black BTW), I don't see what the problem is and why people would be angry that a little white girl is wearing braids.

 

[Nephtis]

The real question is where were you when people were bitching about it?

Does it matter where I was? I'm asking if there was any rage over it. I did a quick search and outside of fashion magazines criticizing them for their unfashinableness, there wasn't any of this 'culture appropriation' rage that seems to be so prevalent these days.

It's like people are just looking for an excuse to get mad at someone. It's just hair. If they can manage to rock the hairstyle then good for them.

 

[Koppai]

the black community is sensitive to white folks doing particularly "black things," because black people are generally derided for it while the whites who borrow or steal from the culture make a buck off it and are given praise. Rapping is only cool when Macklemore does it. Twerking was trashy until it was a thing Miley Cyrus did.

It contributes to a feeling that black people are tolkenized and not honestly accepted in the wider media and/or American culture, so it leads to defensiveness any time someone white does something most associated with black people. Mostly the criticism is levied toward institutions (magazines, television shows) but some individuals catch shit for it as well.

I totally understand that point. I never judge people by how they look but what their personality is. If you are mean, nasty, and a racist shit I want nothing to do with you. I could see where the hurt might come from, but it was a little girl who posted a pic of a hairstyle she liked. It's being blown up for nothing. Social media idiots strike again. X.x

 

[Tom Penny]

The world has changed. Nobody every used to make fun of or bully people they thought looked different. I blame video games.

 

[Fuchsdh]

the black community is sensitive to white folks doing particularly "black things," because black people are generally derided for it while the whites who borrow or steal from the culture make a buck off it and are given praise. Rapping is only cool when Macklemore does it. Twerking was trashy until it was a thing Miley Cyrus did.

It contributes to a feeling that black people are tolkenized and not honestly accepted in the wider media and/or American culture, so it leads to defensiveness any time someone white does something most associated with black people. Mostly the criticism is levied toward institutions (magazines, television shows, celebrities) but some individuals catch shit for it as well.

In what universe was this true? People said Miley Cyrus twerking was trashy. She became the butt of a thousand jokes.

 

[Anton Sugar]

What hurt and pain are you talking about? I've seen lots of white men and women (some examples which have already been posted) have braids, and no one said a word. Unless I'm missing something within black culture (which I am black BTW), I don't see what the problem is and why people would be angry that a little white girl is wearing braids.

This tweet is basically why:

@sanyulukwago 4m4 minutes ago
@pukestagram box braids are black culture and the basis of the arguments were that culturally black hairstyles are considered unprofessional and ghetto on black girls, but praised on white girls. it wasn't about feminism.

And related media:
Head-turning hair fashions for fall: bangs, rows and tails. Not a single mention of any black fashion models, icons, etc. They even attribute some cornrow styles to Elizabethan "edginess".

Move over, Bo Derek. Far from the bead-bedecked cornrows and plaits the actress wore in the 1979 film "10," cornrows with a punk vibe have shown up recently on model Cara Delevingne, singer Rita Ora and actress Kristen Stewart, as well as on the Alexander McQueen, DKNY and Marchesa runways. Madeline Brewer in "Orange Is the New Black" was another forerunner of the trend.

"Cornrows are moving away from urban, hip-hop to more chic and edgy," says Reyman. "There were spiral cornrows at Alexander McQueen, and I did fishtail cornrows woven with fabric. I have also been incorporating cornrows into center parts and side parts. Just one cornrow or a couple on the side is really cool [as opposed to a headful], but they have to be on the right person with the right clothing. Obviously, McQueen is very gothic and strong, so that customer is looking for that Elizabethan or 'Game of Thrones' edginess.

"A French braid is actually just a large cornrow. Whether it's a small row or a big row, plaits create a nice intricacy and point of interest that make hair look fresh. We also see braids evolving into other styles, like ponytails and the pulled-apart braided chignon at Elie Saab couture."

Black Twitter Schools Marie Claire on Cornrows

Also, there are similar articles related to this phenomenon:

 

[Derwind]

Oh, I did not mean black people as a group all think like that, sometimes I am really not good at explaining what I mean. I really only meant the Twitter users being idiots. I rarely ever see stuff like this in daily life,I only see it online.

Also on another note, when I read the thread title, I thought she had gotten physically attacked. Op needs to change the thread title for real.

Cool, the projection towards that girl was really wrong, she hasn't done anything wrong by braiding her hair.

And you should know, Twitter is not exactly known for being a bastion of empathy and tolerance.

 

[Nephtis]

In what universe was this true? People said Miley Cyrus twerking was trashy. She became the butt of a thousand jokes.

hahahahahahhaah

 

[Trey]

I totally understand that point. I never judge people by how they look but what their personality is. If you are mean, nasty, and a racist shit I want nothing to do with you. I could see where the hurt might come from, but it was a little girl who posted a pic of a hairstyle she liked. It's being blown up for nothing. Social media idiots strike again. X.x

I honestly question how much this "blew up," but I haven't checked tumblr lately which is a bastion for this kind of stuff. Beysus doesn't have any links in the OP. I feel like the vast majority of people won't care that she got box braids. I'd be fucking surprised if most black folks haven't seen a white girl in box braids before - it's not exactly a rare thing.

The black community is not outraged at this situation.

 

[SonnyBoy]

What hurt and pain are you talking about? I've seen lots of white men and women (some examples which have already been posted) have braids, and no one said a word. Unless I'm missing something within black culture (which I am black BTW), I don't see what the problem is and why people would be angry that a little white girl is wearing braids.

Check my post history, as I've already covered it.

 

[overcast]

Cultural appropriation is a huge thing in American society, but this is just fucking ridiculous.

 

[entremet]

Attacked?

I thought this girl got beat up or something by the thread title. Harassed online is more apropos

 

[pokeystaples]

Does it matter where I was? I'm asking if there was any rage over it.

Sorry, yes, yes there was an uproar about it, but you may have missed it because it was primarily contained within the AAC.

Just because you were unaware for whatever reason does not mean these things don't cause waves.

 

[SonnyBoy]

the black community is sensitive to white folks doing particularly "black things," because black people are generally derided for it while the whites who borrow or steal from the culture make a buck off it and are given praise. Rapping is only cool when Macklemore does it. Twerking was trashy until it was a thing Miley Cyrus did.

Or having a booty is only acceptable when Iggy Azalea does it...

Vogue: We’re Officially in the Era of the Big Booty

 

[VaLiancY]

I've seen this pop up on tumblr and swept it underneath the rug but I like you GAF. It's not a big deal. Black people are so afraid of the cultural appropriation of white people that I feel with all the stuff going around, it makes some people jumpy and attack anything remotely racial without breaking down the context.

It's a young girl with braids. Let her cook, she isn't harming anyone.

 

[Violence Jack]

This tweet is basically why:


And related media:
Head-turning hair fashions for fall: bangs, rows and tails. Not a single mention of any black fashion models, icons, etc. They even attribute some cornrow styles to Elizabethan "edginess".



Black Twitter Schools Marie Claire on Cornrows

Also, there are similar articles related to this phenomenon:

OK. Now I understand. Not the attacking, but why some blacks might be upset by this.

 

[njean777]

the black community is sensitive to white folks doing particularly "black things," because black people are generally derided for it while the whites who borrow or steal from the culture make a buck off it and are given praise. Rapping is only cool when Macklemore does it. Twerking was trashy until it was a thing Miley Cyrus did.

It contributes to a feeling that black people are tolkenized and not honestly accepted in the wider media and/or American culture, so it leads to defensiveness any time someone white does something most associated with black people. Mostly the criticism is levied toward institutions (magazines, television shows, celebrities) but some individuals catch shit for it as well.

Eh twerking is still seen as trashy, especially after Miley did it.

 

[Nephtis]

Sorry, yes, yes there was an uproar about it, but you may have missed it because it was primarily contained within the AAC.

Just because you were unaware for whatever reason does not mean these things don't cause waves.

Could you show me said uproar? Like I said, I did a search and found nothing outside of fashion magazines doing their thing.

 

[ISOM]

Eh twerking is still seen as trashy, especially after Miley did it.

I think you're missing the wider point he's trying to make.

 

[AlimNassor]

I owe everyone int his thread an apology. I've been a real jerk to y'all. I simply couldn't stand to be wrong about it. i understand how these things can cause distress, I wasn't thinking when I made my jerkish posts.

Nobody is defending what was done to the girl. It was an atrocity, that's all there is to it.


However, some of us realize that behind the atrocity is pain and hurt. And we're simply explaining how black women struggle with "hair". Not defending it, not justifying it. Just simply saying, XYZ circumstances lead to hurt, insecurity, anger.

You're right, and I apologize.

 

[Koppai]

I honestly question how much this "blew up," but I haven't checked tumblr lately which is a bastion for this kind of stuff. Beysus doesn't have any links in the OP. I feel like the vast majority of people won't care that she got box braids. I'd be fucking surprised if most black folks haven't seen a white girl in box braids before - it's not exactly a rare thing.

The black community is not outraged at this situation.

The Internet really has become so easy for people to hide behind screennames and be sickening. Look at all the comments on any blog, youtube, Twitter, tumblr or whatever social media you prefer and you see the same shit. I really love it when people publicly embarrass them outside of the computer for how they act online. For great justice.

 

[MIMIC]

She looks nice. And the fact that she apologized....

By the power vested in me as a black man, I now grant her the right to wear her hair any way she wants =p

 

[Coffee Dog]

I see how some could be offended by this, but if you think she should change how she looks I think you cross a line.

 

[SonnyBoy]

Let her cook, she isn't harming anyone.

#stirsimaginarybowl

I owe everyone int his thread an apology. I've been a real jerk to y'all. I simply couldn't stand to be wrong about it. i understand how these things can cause distress, I wasn't thinking when I made my jerkish posts.

No worries bruh. We're just here to discuss it.

 

[OldAsUrSock]

Imagine Iggy Azaelia with braids. The internet should explode.

She should do it.

 

[Coreda]

I had a horrible feeling while slowly scrolling over the first two photos it was a lead up to some before/after assault shots. Glad I was wrong.

 

[Trey]

In what universe was this true? People said Miley Cyrus twerking was trashy. She became the butt of a thousand jokes.

Eh twerking is still seen as trashy, especially after Miley did it.

We weren't getting "dawn of booty" articles or "how to twerk" blogs and classes until it was white girls shaking their asses on TV. Sure, people in general might still see the act itself as trashy, but twerking has permeated culture like it never has before around the actions of white women, when black women have been popping that ass since they realized what they had back there.

Or having a booty is only acceptable when Iggy Azalea does it...

Vogue: We’re Officially in the Era of the Big Booty

Iggy Azalea is the "face" of culture appropriation at the moment. Twitter goes in on her daily. If you can understand the circumstances surrounding her situation with black criticism, it will inform you on situations like these rather well.

 

[njean777]

I think you're missing the wider point he's trying to make.

No I get what he was saying, just pointingn out twerking still is seen as trashy.

 

[The Faceless Master]

You don't think race relations have improved since 1950? What do you want from this girl in return for wearing this haircut? Like I said, I see this girl as a symptom that race relations are improving in the country.

Should we take the time to highlight areas we need to improve upon still? Sure. I think the conversation in this thread is a positive thing.

improved? i'd say they've gotten worse. nowadays it's not blatant, it's more insidious and hidden behind HR offices and the InJustice system. you don't see the boogeyman coming with his mob of white hoods, guns rope and torches at night. instead they sneak up on you 24/7 in plain clothes. thimgy may have legitimately been better when they were just being bold and dragging us behind their trucks.

did race relations really improve? or did people just improve at hiding their racism?

 

[Coconut]

Was there any rage when this was going on?



Or are those people going after her because she's a little girl and can't really defend herself? Some of those people replying to her are disgusting.

Bo Derrick also.

 

[Lucumo]

Ah sweet racism.

I agree.

The people on Twitter telling her she can't do her hair that way because she is white are the ones being racist. It's sad to see how fucked up people are these days.

 

[Rembrandt]

It's not like every white person does that let alone the other race to do that. (You aren't saying that) so it's kinda dumb for them to be mad for that reason, more hypocritical than anything.

More power to the girl, I think they looked nice on her and I don't care for those braids much.

You're making it painfully obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about.

I agree.

The people on Twitter telling her she can't do her hair that way because she is white are the ones being racist. It's sad to see how fucked up people are these days.

You've probably already left the thread never to return, but do you understand what the posters in here have been trying to say?

 

[The Faceless Master]

I think people should take a long, hard look at their culture and determine if it's doing them any good.

If your culture demands you spit hate, maybe it's not working out.

we have a thread for that.

 

[TheLaughingStock]

Whatever, fake hair sucks whether you are black, or white.

Weave/extensions is awesome if done right. Some girls look so good.

 

[G.ZZZ]

We weren't getting "dawn of booty" articles or "how to twerk" blogs and classes until it was white girls shaking their asses on TV. Sure, people in general might still see the act itself as trashy, but twerking has permeated culture like it never has before around the actions of white girls, when black women have been popping that ass since they realized what they had back there.

.

The real question is who the fuck continue to buy vogue or whatever high fashion magazine and give weight to what they say? They're like the oscar, a circlejerk for rich white kids, who the fuck cares about them, stop giving them money. Yeah i know this is literally the devil wear prada argument, but counter cultures have always existed and stood outside from those kind of standards, which are held only in fairly rich enviroments, in which case you're rich so who care.

 

[Fenderputty]

improved? i'd say they've gotten worse. nowadays it's not blatant, it's more insidious and hidden behind HR offices and the InJustice system. you don't see the boogeyman coming with his mob of white hoods, guns rope and torches at night. instead they sneak up on you 24/7 in plain clothes. thimgy may have legitimately been better when they were just being bold and dragging us behind their trucks.

did race relations really improve? or did people just improve at hiding their racism?

IMO the bolded doesn't describe institutional racism. It wasn't even explained to me until college and even then it took statistics to start wrapping my head around the issue.

I think denying improvement is a slap in the face to those who worked hard for the improvement we're all enjoying.

 

[Fjordson]

She looks fine and should be allowed to do whatever she wants with her hair. Obviously.

Twitter is the worst.

edit: lots of people on twitter are the worst to be more exact.