InsaneTiger
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Sure, I don't disagree. Either console, PC or both, remasters are important.
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Batman Arkham Asylum/City Remaster (Rumor)
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Sure, I don't disagree. Either console, PC or both, remasters are important.
styl3s
Member
You do know that there are millions and millions of people out there who don't own a PC that can run this game but own a Xbox One and/or PS4, right? People who maybe haven't played these games or this is their first console and want to play them but can't afford a ps3/360 etc.
If you don't like them simply don't buy them but don't act like they serve no purpose because you don't don't even = .1% of the consumer base and you speak for even less of a %. A lot of people enjoy these remasters and a lot of people wouldn't be able to play awesome games like these without the remasters so why poo-poo them?
It's as if "gamers" need something to constantly bitch about.
Ninja Scooter
Member
As in, this is the thing people will incessantly whine about all generation long out of some misplaced and largely uninformed sense of principle? Yeah in that sense they are the new DLC.
I don't see the hate honestly. There's probably enough people who haven't played the games to make a quick buck by selling the upgraded versions. It doesn't take significant resources to make these remasters, and with a series like the Arkham games, with Collector's Editions and GOTY editions out the ass, I doubt there's anyone who collects every version of every game in the series and is going to be pissed off because they have to buy a new one.
Having never played the Arkham series, I'll probably be buying this once it goes on sale since those games seem to drop in value quick.
Having never played the Arkham series, I'll probably be buying this once it goes on sale since those games seem to drop in value quick.
Japanmanx3
Member
Bought. Bought. Double bought.
dreamcastfan
Member
I have to ask.... how many of the people complaining bought GTAV for PS4 or XBOX1?
Happier and happier to primarily be a pc gamer. I mean, I played the remastered version of asylum at 1080p/60 with physx years ago and it was like 3 bucks! And in a couple years after my next GPU update I'll be able to remaster it again by running it at like 8k supersampled... And for free! Good times
akidnamededdy
Banned
Xbox 360 and PS3 have a combined install base of over 150 million and are still very much widely available, as are these games. Let's not try to pretend that literally any semi-avid gamer who even remotely likes Batman hasn't already played these games.
no time to finish them, just too many games.
nobodyshero
Banned
I don't mind remasters in general, but they do kind of water down/cheapen the library and purpose of a new console. Whether or not they "get in the way" of new games is beside the point, I can't imagine anyone bought new technology to play old games. So the glut of remasters beyond those truly iconicslecial games that "deserve" it is a bit eye rolling.
I mean, GTA V, sure. That game was held back a bit by the tech, and a lot of ass was put in to the remaster. But like, Sleeping Dogs? Not only did no one ask for it, but the PC version is on sale for less than $5 like once a month, so to charge close to full price for it is a blatant cash grab.
I mean, GTA V, sure. That game was held back a bit by the tech, and a lot of ass was put in to the remaster. But like, Sleeping Dogs? Not only did no one ask for it, but the PC version is on sale for less than $5 like once a month, so to charge close to full price for it is a blatant cash grab.
RPGCrazied
Member
Fuck yes! Day 0 and all that. I have em on PS3, and performance isn't what I'd like. 1080p with some AA? Sign me up.
SUPERJEM94
Banned
Another one?! Well then.
thelastword
Banned
Porting a game is extremely easy this generation because of the console's architecture (pc-like), there's a pc version to work from in most cases and at most you have 4-5 guys doing this, while a team of 70-90 persons are working on the bigger project (Arkham Knight). if these 5 guys were working on arkham knight, it wouldn't mean that the game would release sooner. (April instead of June)
Look at a game like TLOUR, now that was ported from complicated PS3 hardware/code, the amount of work just getting that code to run on PS4 was very hard work, yet look at how much they were able to improve everything, from lighting to shadows, to AA, to framerate to textures on top of just porting it, and they did that in slightly less than 6 months. If naughty had to convert one of these pc ports to ps4, they would probably take a couple of days frankly. It's really not that complicated.
TBH, I'd prefer a dev like rocksteady take some resources and do the remaster themselves, some of the cheaper studios like qloc, dimps, high voltage really butcher the product sometimes and don't produce an A quality product. At this point if you're not using Hexadrive, Bluepoint or Nixxes for your remaster it's better to do them in-house, unless you're Capcom of course, as Capcom even butchers new releases. (RE-R2).
No. It takes a fuck of a lot more than 4 people to make stuff like this. And a lot more than a couple days. Way, way more. This post is ridiculous and simultaneously fellating naughty dog, which is strange in a batman thread
echoshifting
Banned
Yyyyyyep
How are the Arkham games on the PS3? I'm not too concerned with 720p but I'd like the framrate to be a solid 30+. I primarily played them on the PC but my card is tapping out and to be honest I'd rather play games on my big ass TV nowadays and I have no room in the living room to put my PC tower. I fancy picking them up on the PS3 to play through them again before Knight hits.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Unless you can provide sources you really shouldn't say shit like this.
We all do?
I certainly don't, as I wasn't a PS+ member at whatever time that happened.
InsaneTiger
Member
Agreed. Origins made a small change to the combat that fucks everything up. Plus Origins trys to suggest five years before Asylum, LOL, yeah right.
GabeTheGrouch76
Member
I think this trend of remasters would make more sense if they were occurring at the end of this generation's lifespan. Doing it when its still in its infancy is just feeding the ever-growing assumption that developers are creatively bankrupt, not helped by a lack / presence of "compelling" AAA releases for either system (at least that's what I've seen a handful of people around the web insinuate anyway).
Count me as another who's confused on the lack of Origins, even taking into account that its WB Montreal's red-headed stepchild of the Arkham series that people like less than the main Rocksteady entries. Heck, if through a remastered version they were able to make some changes to the game structure, I could see it being better-received than the original game (largely referring to Origins changing some aspects of the Rocksteady entries for the worse and the multiplayer component).
Count me as another who's confused on the lack of Origins, even taking into account that its WB Montreal's red-headed stepchild of the Arkham series that people like less than the main Rocksteady entries. Heck, if through a remastered version they were able to make some changes to the game structure, I could see it being better-received than the original game (largely referring to Origins changing some aspects of the Rocksteady entries for the worse and the multiplayer component).
akidnamededdy
Banned
Good news you can buy them for like ten bucks each instead of buying into this remaster bullshit.
styl3s
Member
You took a survey of everyone who plays video games? Must of taken you a long time.
RPGCrazied
Member
Not stellar, I found Asylum ran better than City. Both had some screen tearing. City got bad, for me, when gliding around the city. It is an UE game, and for the most part those games don't run great on PS3.
There's no way this doesn't end up being below $30 by Black Friday.
nobodyshero
Banned
It shouldn't be more than $40 at release.
Hey, don't mind me, DC/Marvel fan here who had a 360 since 2010 and still never played the BamHam titles.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I don't see how my assumption is any more ridiculous than that of the people saying "these remasters don't take any resources and at most four interns are doing them hurr hurr"
Congratutions, you can buy them for dirt cheap by now.
Dirtyshubb
Member
So its bullshit if someone who hasnt played the game (And has a PS3 or 360) would rather play it on their current console that has a much faster UI that allows them to stop and go back into the game whenever they want, allow them to record and share gameplay footage with ease, all while having the best quality version of the game?
Seriously, its getting to the point where bitching about remasters should be a banable offense because it NEVER comes from a place of logic or consideration for others but instead comes from a place of selfishness and assumptions about how games development, resource management, return of investment and gaining interest in a franchise for future titles actually works.
...instead they're taking away from what the remaster port houses actually want to be making.
I mean, they might want to just be a port house, of course. That's fair enough. But I suspect there's people in there with ideas that they want to realise.
I'm getting a hint of "We can't afford to let you be creative, sorry. But we'll let you keep the lights on with a bland remake"
keltickennedy
Member
I'm down. Though if they are released after Arkham Knight I'm going to pass.
I've long since sold my 360 and collection and now have a PS4. I do not have a gaming PC and would like the opportunity to play this again with better graphics. If the price is right and the spirit of the remaster is anywhere the DMC DE teams level, then I'm in. The level of hate towards this remaster is silly. Don't like, don't buy - message sent.
Metal Gear Revengeance remaster next if we're doing that whilst MGR2 cooks in the oven
Metal Gear Revengeance remaster next if we're doing that whilst MGR2 cooks in the oven
Hmmm. Doesn't sound worth it then. I've just had a cursory glance over the DF face offs and after those and your view, I'm leaning to not bothering. I can't stand screen tearing and I'd prefer the framerate to be 30+ all the time.
Solid SOAP
Member
akidnamededdy
Banned
Fucking ban me then. Tired of this pixel-counting bullshit. See you all in hell.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Good for people who never played them. These need to be no more than half off of MSRP though.
Even if I didn't own these on PC, there'd be so little reason for me to go back to Aslyum. There's too much about that game that's been outclassed by its sequels. Asylum needed to be a full remake to be worthwhile here, in my opinion. Redone overworld, added abilities from the sequels (small stuff like how the grapnel works or stealth takedown options), redone boss encounters, changed ending, etc. I'd prefer a remake be a standalone thing too, but that's asking too much, especially only six years after the original came out.
Even if I didn't own these on PC, there'd be so little reason for me to go back to Aslyum. There's too much about that game that's been outclassed by its sequels. Asylum needed to be a full remake to be worthwhile here, in my opinion. Redone overworld, added abilities from the sequels (small stuff like how the grapnel works or stealth takedown options), redone boss encounters, changed ending, etc. I'd prefer a remake be a standalone thing too, but that's asking too much, especially only six years after the original came out.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I'm fine with remasters. I like playing old games again, and don't really see a problem throwing some money at a new version of a game I like. So I'll pick this up, but I do wish Origins was in it since I've never played it.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I'm sure you will be remembered as a hero who fell in the Great Remaster wars of 2015.
Congratulations, I only boot up my 360 every once in a blue moon now.
Or I could wait until these remasters are 10 bucks and get a superior version on a console that I don't have to drag out from my closet!
Or how about I buy into whatever bullshit I feel like with my money, and you can just not buy into whatever bullshit you feel like for whatever reasons you feel like?
Dirtyshubb
Member
Woah what the fuck?! Sounds like someone needs a time out.
I personally am of the mind that resolution and frame rate arent the be-all-and-end-all of games being good and have enjoyed games that are considered by some people to be unplayable but if there is the option to play a game in 720p and 30fps or 1080p and 60 fps I would choose the 1080/60 version every time, why the hell wouldnt i?
It's bullshit that Origins isn't included. It's not even my favorite but I feel like it should be included. I'll probably end up buying it someday.
Kind of tiring to read the complaints about remasters. I'm assuming it doesn't take a lot of resources for some of these due to how fast they're pumping them out. It's to generate hype for a new game in a series or to make a buck after the new installment has been released.
That or in the case of The Last of Us: Remastered and God of War III, trying to make money off the people who may have not have owned a PS3 but now own a PS4 and want to play the games they missed. I don't think these remasters are stopping any new games in development or the creation of. Maybe I'd be mad if I read developer complaints about having their studio's focus off new and exciting projects or something.
Kind of tiring to read the complaints about remasters. I'm assuming it doesn't take a lot of resources for some of these due to how fast they're pumping them out. It's to generate hype for a new game in a series or to make a buck after the new installment has been released.
That or in the case of The Last of Us: Remastered and God of War III, trying to make money off the people who may have not have owned a PS3 but now own a PS4 and want to play the games they missed. I don't think these remasters are stopping any new games in development or the creation of. Maybe I'd be mad if I read developer complaints about having their studio's focus off new and exciting projects or something.
Bring it on!