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Kotaku: Meet The Head Transplant Doctor at The Centre of a MGS Conspiracy

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feli

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Canavero is going to have an interview about this conspiracy with one of the major italian public TV broadcaster. I will post it when it goes online.
 
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Houndi101

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CcrooK said:
Well congrats GAF. Game's gonna get delayed into 2016. Pre-order cancelled. Game over.
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Simultaneous release on all platforms confirmed

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KyleCross

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This is why we can't have nice things. I can't believe people thought it was a good idea to call this Doctor.

Can't Konami prove that the model is based on an actor and that be it, or is it going to be a case of the Doctor taking them to court regardless and Konami choosing to settle to avoid the costs of going to court?

If this actually gets the game delayed, I'll be mad at you GAF.
 
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Arttemis

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The mystery to me is how anyone in this thread managed to come to the conclusion that it's more likely a man performing a head transplant with magic ingredients (his words) and a mountain of evidence pointing to MGS is nothing but a strange man with strange coincidences.
 
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GoodMorningPluto

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ElTorro said:
Kojima just shot himself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Internet conspiracy culture (I'm an expert), but truthfulness and integrity are huge parts of it. It's not like it is on Fox News where you can become successful by playing people like a damn fiddle. If you screw someone over on the Internet, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the Internet public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase MGS5 for any system, nor will they purchase any of Kojima's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kojima has alienated an entire market with this move.

Kojima, publicly apologize and pay Canavero 4-5mx60€ compensation or you can kiss your business goodbye.
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Amazing.
 
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ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Arttemis said:
The mystery to me is how anyone in this thread managed to come to the conclusion that it's more likely a man performing a head transplant with magic ingredients (his words) and a mountain of evidence pointing to MGS is nothing but a strange man with strange coincidences.
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It's not like there are no crackpots in this world, even such that have conventional accomplishments to show.
 
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Kinyou

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Arttemis said:
The mystery to me is how anyone in this thread managed to come to the conclusion that it's more likely a man performing a head transplant with magic ingredients (his words) and a mountain of evidence pointing to MGS is nothing but a strange man with strange coincidences.
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I'm just not sure how some obscure relationship would help market the game.
 
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ichtyander

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Whoa, what in the actual fuck? I'm honestly surprised at how far this whole thing has gone. I keep telling myself it's the freakiest of coincidences, but they keep pulling me back into crazy town.
 
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Graphics Horse

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Houndi101 said:
Did Moby Dick Studios do any stuff in swedish channels?
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Moby Dick studios was a simple website and youtube channel, and some tshirts.
Kojima has really been hyped up into something he isn't as far as virals go, there have been hundreds of much more elaborate and long running campaigns out there.
 
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ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Next: Ian Moore suing Canavero for publicly appearing like an actor playing a crazy video game character.
 
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Kinyou

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LonelyGreyWolf said:
You don't see how viral marketing and free advertisement in social media and online newspapers can help spread awareness of a product?
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But how would they spring it?


Two days before release "Hey, I'm not making an actual head transplant, haha. Please buy MGS 5" ?

Or were they waiting for someone to uncover it?
 
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baterism

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I think... it's not about GAF calling the doc anymore. He will know it regardless he got called or not. From the op we know he knew it from Kotaku (uk?). The moment the theories rolled we know it is too late. We know too much.

GIN* was just being too good. Too good for their own sake.

GIN = GAF Intelligence Network aka The Neo

Edit: that Sinimi guy is a double. I'm sure of it. Fuck that guy.( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)ᕤ
 
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PillarEN

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MechaX said:
Awareness is one thing.

Advertising to the correct audience is another thing entirely.
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Well if this blows up for real (if he is actually going to interview on TV over this lol) then soon enough your IGN's and Gamespot's will post articles, podcasts will chatter about it and Gametrailers will dedicate an entire series to this.
 
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LonelyGreyWolf

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Kinyou said:
But how would they spring it?


Two days before release "Hey, I'm not making an actual head transplant, haha. Please buy MGS 5" ?

Or were they waiting for someone to uncover it?
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What do you mean? I don't really think that's important in this scenario, unless I'm misunderstanding.

MechaX said:
Awareness is one thing.

Advertising to the correct audience is another thing entirely.
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Not really, no.
 
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Natels

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LonelyGreyWolf said:
You don't see how viral marketing and free advertisement in social media and online newspapers can help spread awareness of a product?
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I find hard to believe that this is all a marketing stunt. It's getting way to big and out of control. Dr Canavero is a well known doctor, would he go to TV and lie about all of this puting at risk his credibility and his lifes work?

In the other hand that interview with kotaku really felt like he was trying to seem surprised. And Kojima saying he could be fired or banned from the industry or whatever he said this is a good reason to me
 
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Arttemis

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ElTorro said:
It's not like there are no crackpots in this world, even such that have conventional accomplishments to show.
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That's the thing that gets me. Everyone is willing to accept that he's a loon. Obviously what he's attempting with today's technology is insane, and by his own accounts, he's using "magic ingredients" and logical fallacies referring to the extent of his patient's suffering to explain the procedure's possibility.

So people can acknowledge that it's not real medicine/science, and this is a man trying to get attention at the cost of his credibility.

But the mountain of evidence pointing to a link with MGS is dismissed because he has/had a link to credible research papers. People in this thread are reasoning that a man losing his credibility for a publicity stunt over *just* an impossible surgery, despite the should-be-obvious pile of evidence pointing a link to MGS, is somehow more likely than a man doing those things because he's actually affiliated with the mountain of evidence.

His published research is irrelevant either way; he's proposing an operation that the medical science field thinks is "nuts", but people here are using his now-broken ties to research as a means to dismiss the obvious connections. "He can't be related to a game because he's a real doctor who published research, and is now a kook with an impossible objective."

Not to mention the extreme ridiculousness of his proposal! He claims he's capable of reattaching a severed spinal cord to a severed head ("in under an hour!" give me a break) without any prior animal testing or surgery to mend those with spinal injuries. It's insane.

This post hasn't even begun to address the abundance of ties to the game, just his lack of professionalism. It's as though people are willing to ignore the mountain of evidence suggesting affiliation as coincidence because he's not a made-up person.
 
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Kinyou

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LonelyGreyWolf said:
What do you mean? I don't really think that's important in this scenario, unless I'm misunderstanding.
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Well, I mean it's not advertising as long no one knows it's advertising a product. I just wonder how they were planning to make the jump from fake headstransplant to "MGS 5 out now" and have the media go with it
 
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Risk Breaker

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Natels said:
I find hard to believe that this is all a marketing stunt. It's getting way to big and out of control. Dr Canavero is a well known doctor, would he go to TV and lie about all of this puting at risk his credibility and his lifes work?

In the other hand that interview with kotaku really felt like he was trying to seem surprised. And Kojima saying he could be fired or banned from the industry or whatever he said this is a good reason to me
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Because his reputation is not put at risk when he says he will transplant a human head, ahahaha.

LIKE A FIDDLE.
 
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ilium

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MattyG said:
I really doubt this will go a further than idle threats of a lawsuit. If Kojima has an actor that they modelled the doctor character after, I don't think the guy has a leg to stand on.
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Exactly lol.

Do you really think there is not one single document that will prove that the Doc was modeled after the actor?

Come one guys... that's even more delusional than thinking this is a conspiracy.
 
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sonicmj1

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Arttemis said:
But the mountain of evidence pointing to a link with MGS is dismissed because he has/had a link to credible research papers. People in this thread are reasoning that a man losing his credibility for a publicity stunt over *just* an impossible surgery, despite the should-be-obvious pile of evidence pointing a link to MGS, is somehow more likely than a man doing those things because he's actually affiliated with the mountain of evidence.
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Like what? They used an actor that looks like him, but didn't use his actual face? He spoke at a conference that takes place near a location in a world-spanning game? He used hyperbolic abbreviations when talking about his crackpot procedure that he's going to use to milk tons of money from desperate terminal patients?

All this orchestrated by the guy who, last time he did a viral marketing stunt, literally spelled out "Metal Gear Solid V" in the very first trailer related to it?
 
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Mr. RHC

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Arttemis said:
That's the thing that gets me. Everyone is willing to accept that he's a loon. Obviously what he's attempting with today's technology is insane, and by his own accounts, he's using "magic ingredients" and logical fallacies referring to the extent of his patient's suffering to explain the procedure's possibility.

So people can acknowledge that it's not real medicine/science, and this is a man trying to get attention at the cost of his credibility.

But the mountain of evidence pointing to a link with MGS is dismissed because he has/had a link to credible research papers. People in this thread are reasoning that a man losing his credibility for a publicity stunt over *just* an impossible surgery, despite the should-be-obvious pile of evidence pointing a link to MGS, is somehow more likely than a man doing those things because he's actually affiliated with the mountain of evidence.

His published research is irrelevant either way; he's proposing an operation that the medical science field thinks is "nuts", but people here are using his now-broken ties to research as a means to dismiss the obvious connections. "He can't be related to a game because he's a real doctor who published research, and is now a cook with an impossible objective."

Not to mention the extreme ridiculousness of his proposal! He claims he's capable of reattaching a severed spinal cord to a severed head ("in under an hour!" give me a break) without any prior animal testing or surgery to mend those with spinal injuries. It's insane.

This post hasn't even begun to address the abundance of ties to the game, just his lack of professionalism. It's as though people are willing to ignore the mountain of evidence suggesting affiliation as coincidence because he's not a made-up person.
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Great post.
 
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The Cartographer

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Arttemis said:
Not to mention the extreme ridiculousness of his proposal! He claims he's capable of reattaching a severed spinal cord to a severed head ("in under an hour!" give me a break) without any prior animal testing or surgery to mend those with spinal injuries. It's insane.
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Yep, the patient is going to die, no doubt about it.
 
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The Jackdog

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sonicmj1 said:
Like what? They used an actor that looks like him, but didn't use his actual face? He spoke at a conference that takes place near a location in a world-spanning game? He used hyperbolic abbreviations when talking about his crackpot procedure that he's going to use to milk tons of money from desperate terminal patients?

All this orchestrated by the guy who, last time he did a viral marketing stunt, literally spelled out "Metal Gear Solid V" in the very first trailer related to it?
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yup. hopefully sense will prevail here
 
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ilium

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sonicmj1 said:
Like what? They used an actor that looks like him, but didn't use his actual face? He spoke at a conference that takes place near a location in a world-spanning game? He used hyperbolic abbreviations when talking about his crackpot procedure that he's going to use to milk tons of money from desperate terminal patients?

All this orchestrated by the guy who, last time he did a viral marketing stunt, literally spelled out "Metal Gear Solid V" in the very first trailer related to it?
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Uh...you're missing quite a lot there.
 
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glaurung

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An actual head transplant as a medical procedure sounds uncanny.

I am more willing to believe that this is a carefully orchestrated PR stunt, but it will never be taken too far. It's not like Hideo will trot the doctor out on stage at E3 or something. At the same time, I expect dataminers to find some properly curious stuff from among the PC version's files.
 
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