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[Tubobutts]

Boycott efforts to hurt a company imply it will affect employees. Cause and effect and all that.

Why is it the responsibility of the consumers to protect innocent employees and not that of the company's?

If people refuse to support Oculus because they still employ Luckey why is it on the consumer to make sure their boycott doesn't affect others at the company?

 

[Shaanyboi]

Boycott efforts to hurt a company imply it will affect employees. Cause and effect and all that.

Shield your racist founder, and that's the burden you take with it.

What kind of argument is this? "What, you're buying Pepsi? Don't you care about the employees of Coca-Cola?"

 

[VillageBC]

Shield your racist founder, and that's the burden you take with it.

What kind of argument is this? "What, you're buying Pepsi? Don't you care about the employees of Coca-Cola?"

The slight difference in one your changing behavior with the intent to hurt one company and the other you just want to drink the inferior Pepsi.

 

[Kaako]

Boycott efforts to hurt a company imply it will affect employees. Cause and effect and all that.

We're now past effecting the employees of this company. Maybe you can see the bigger picture/perspective if you look hard enough.

 

[Shaanyboi]

The slight difference in one your changing behavior with the intent to hurt one company and the other you just want to drink the inferior Pepsi.

People can get their VR solution elsewhere, or at a later time when it becomes a more accessible consumer product. The "change in behavior" is people not liking a company refusing to make a statement on their racist founder, refusing to condemn his actions, and threatening to remove people who ask about him.

But go ahead, keep being willfully obtuse about this.

 

[Krejlooc]

The slight difference in one your changing behavior with the intent to hurt one company and the other you just want to drink the inferior Pepsi.

There are plenty of reasons to not support Oculus beyond Palmer Luckey being a shithead. Oculus doesn't have the best interest of its customers or VR at heart.

 

[VillageBC]

We're now past effecting the employees of this company. Maybe you can see the bigger picture/perspective if you look hard enough.

Eh, I just get sick of the echo chambers that exist everywhere these days and no room for non-conforming opinions.

 

[Mass Effect]

Supporting the alt-right will affect more people in the long run.

Seriously. Far more people are affected by the continued support/enabling of this alt-right movement than a few hundred employees.

VillageBC, are you against boycotting of any company period since it affects employees?

 

[Krejlooc]

Eh, I just get sick of the echo chambers that exist everywhere these days and no room for non-conforming opinions.

I personally get sick of devil's advocates sticking up for hate group donors.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Eh, I just get sick of the echo chambers that exist everywhere these days and no room for non-conforming opinions.

'Fuck racists' seems like an opinion worth conforming to.

 

[nephilimdj]

We're now past effecting the employees of this company. Maybe you can see the bigger picture/perspective if you look hard enough.

Is that the right thing? I mean this thread is about a Gawker employee who was harassing people at a diversity luncheon, trying to find there real names to shame them online with quotes

*edit changed it back after quoted

 

[Krejlooc]

Is that the right thing? I mean this thread is about a Gawker employee who was harassing people at a diversity luncheon, trying to find there real names to shame them online with quotes

You think the Gawker employee is the one who was in the wrong here?

 

[VillageBC]

Seriously. Far more people are affected by the continued support/enabling of this alt-right movement than a few hundred employees.

VillageBC, are you against boycotting of any company period since it affects employees?

Nah, I think it's the only tool we real have to force behavior changes we find abhorrent. I just wish we had a scalpel than a hammer. I don't really intend to buy Samsung phones any time soon. =)

 

[Shaanyboi]

Is that the right thing? I mean this thread is about a Gawker employee who was harassing people at a diversity luncheon, trying to find there real names to shame them online with quotes

A) They're a reporter. They're supposed to ask questions.

B) They were invited. To a "diversity luncheon" when the founder of the company has made donations indicating he's very much against diversity.

C) Oculus still has done and said nothing to condemn Luckey's actions, and haven't responded to reporters openly about the situation. Are people supposed to ignore this opportunity to ask what the fuck is going on?

 

[nephilimdj]

A) They're a reporter. They're supposed to ask questions.

B) They were invited. To a "diversity luncheon" when the founder of the company has made donations indicating he's very much against diversity.

C) Oculus still has done and said nothing to condemn Luckey's actions, and haven't responded to reporters openly about the situation. Are people supposed to ignore this opportunity to ask what the fuck is going on?

First quote totally disagrees with that, they were not invited and they selectively picked 1 event from the conference to stir the pot.

Among the events at the conference was an unadvertised, invite-only, “diversity luncheon” that was closed to the press. Invites were sent to various employees on Oculus’ staff, as well as participants from Oculus’ “launch pad” program, which is essentially an incubator for virtual reality creators from diverse backgrounds.

 

[Neuromancer]

It's a happy ending! Brendan Iribe finally found his mom:

 

[hawk2025]

Eh, I just get sick of the echo chambers that exist everywhere these days and no room for non-conforming opinions.

My God, the edge.

 

[Shaanyboi]

First quote totally disagrees with that, they were not invited and they selectively picked 1 event from the conference to stir the pot.

My bad. And yet I fail to see the issue with a reporter with asking people questions as they leave an event. Where is the line here for 'harassment'?

 

[SuperBanana]

Zuckerberg is really liberal isn't he? Didn't he even have FB prioritize left-wing news over right-wing? Why would he want someone like this in his company? It seems really weird. Is Luckey absolutely critical to Occulus?

 

[Krejlooc]

Don't you dare ask anything about Oculus' very exclusive panel on openness and diversity.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Oculus will never get a cent from me as long as they employ Palmer. And honestly, for how poorly they've handled this, they'll likely never get a cent even if they were to distance themselves now. They really did a terrible job with this. I'm glad it's not going away.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Boycott efforts to hurt a company imply it will affect employees. Cause and effect and all that.

Your logic makes no sense. Under your thinking boycotting should never exist because pretty much any product or company has at least some decent people behind it or in it.

People can boycott a company and still care about the welfare of their employees. The point of a boycott is that at some point the balance shifts to where it costs the company more to keep the cancer than to cut it out and appease the customers.

It's not like a company would just let itself go out of business from a boycott without acting to rectify the problem people have with the company.

 

[Abounder]

Zuckerberg is really liberal isn't he? Didn't he even have FB prioritize left-wing news over right-wing? Why would he want someone like this in his company? It seems really weird. Is Luckey absolutely critical to Occulus?

Indeed, but even board member Peter Thiel spoke at the Republican National Convention. Facebook distances away from such actions but employees are free to do what they do. Can't believe Luckey is the face of VR thanks to the TIME cover, yeesh

 

[virtualS]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

 

[DizzyCrow]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

Lol

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

He's free to think what he wants we're free to think "hey fuck this guy and the product that he's the face for."

I think you've got a long ways to go before you understand anything.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

"Why can't we give money to hate groups without being judged for it?"

 

[Krejlooc]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

What you are spouting isn't diverse at all. It's old hat. Played out. The same old shit. "WAKE UP SHEEPLE, TOLERATE MY INTOLERANCE!!"

 

[MillionStabs]

That line about the mom had me laughing in the library. Thanks, Gaf.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

Also you're crazy if you think anyone in their right mind is labeling the shitty alt-right group's beliefs as "political". They couldn't give two shits about things like foreign policy, energy concerns, healthcare issues and the economy. It's all racism and misogyny. Even Trump isn't dumb enough to call his own racist and misogynistic thoughts his "politics" in public.

 

[RadarScope1]

Supremely disappointing. I wasn't buying a Rift anyway, but I hope others will opt not to as well.

 

[ghibli99]

Glad PSVR is here so that I don't have to give two shits about the Rift. Sad too, since I was really excited about it earlier this year.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Glad PSVR is here so that I don't have to give two shits about the Rift. Sad too, since I was really excited about it earlier this year.

Um.... vive....

 

[Stumpokapow]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

What's an example of political thought not allowed in the gaming world?

 

[Makai]

What's an example of political thought not allowed in the gaming world?

Violent video games are responsible for school shootings

 

[LiquidSolid]

Is that the right thing? I mean this thread is about a Gawker employee who was harassing people at a diversity luncheon, trying to find there real names to shame them online with quotes

*edit changed it back after quoted

I think you mean Univision employee?

But yes, he was doing his job.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

Financially supporting a group founded by and in support of white supremacy is political thought worth having in any community?

 

[Big-E]

Does Palmer have dirt on everyone at Facebook and Oculus? It is the only reason I can see why he is still around. VRs current success probably has nothing to really do with Palmer.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Does Palmer have dirt on everyone at Facebook and Oculus? It is the only reason I can see why he is still around. VRs current success probably has nothing to really do with Palmer.

Maybe they don't want to fire someone based on their personal beliefs.

 

[civilstrife]

Maybe they don't want to fire someone based on their personal beliefs.

Their personal beliefs that white people are superior to other races.

 

[Tubobutts]

Maybe they don't want to fire someone based on their personal beliefs.

Well then people should boycott and then they can fire him for harming their brand.

 

[Big-E]

Maybe they don't want to fire someone based on their personal beliefs.

He is hurting the brand right now. Is Palmer really critical to Oculus' future success? Vive and PSVR seem to be doing OK without having Palmer and I am willing to bet my life that someone like Carmack and other engineers at Oculus are more valuable to VR going forward than Palmer.

 

[Tonedeff]

Well then people should boycott and then they can fire him for harming their brand.

A successful boycott against Facebook? Lol Motherfuckers don't have the heart

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Their personal beliefs that white people are superior to other races.

Sounds like that is fairly accurate description of his personal beliefs.

 

[GameAddict411]

I think anyone who is half decent would boycott Oculus Rift until this clown is removed. By buying OR, you are supporting Palmer Luckey no matter how you spin it.

 

[boredandlazy]

Diversity of political thought is clearly not allowed in the gaming world.

I'm starting to understand.

I doubt it, since you seem rather inept at comprehending things staring you directly in the face.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I think anyone who is half decent would boycott Oculus Rift until this clown is removed. By buying OR, you are supporting Palmer Luckey no matter how you spin it.

I stayed at a Trump Hotel once when I was going to take the bar exam in Atlantic City, NJ. Does that mean I support Donald Trump? I don't buy your argument, not that I have any interest in Oculus.

 

[GameAddict411]

Boycott efforts to hurt a company imply it will affect employees. Cause and effect and all that.

There is something called "quitting" and "morality." Oculus employees are not forced to work at Oculus and if I were them I would quit and find another job.

 

[Krejlooc]

I stayed at a Trump Hotel once when I was going to take the bar exam in Atlantic City, NJ. Does that mean I support Donald Trump? I don't buy your argument, not that I have any interest in Oculus.

Quite literally, yes. Of course, the obvious difference here is that having a place to lodge was a necessity for you, particularly given the ties to your career, where supporting Oculus is a luxury purchase for most.

 

[xJavonta]

People in their early 20s are commonly referred to as kids. That's true regardless of whether you're a white or a male

22 year old black male here, and that is complete bullshit. At least, when you're anything but white it is.