GrizzleBoy
Banned
Calling people racist doesn't reduce racism, okay. I think everyone can agree there.
You know what also doesn't reduce racism?
Not a single Trump supporter being able to openly accept the racism their vote carried into the white house, regardless of their social or political leanings.
The HUGE portion of Americans who ignore institutionalised racism or refuse to believe or accept its existence is the problem minorities face in the first place when it comes to reducing racism.
Pushing the issue of race in America to the back of the queue so that we don't make people who wont accept its existence feel uncomfortable, certainly will not reduce racism. America ALREADY pushed the issue to the back of the queue the moment Trump made it into the white house.
He won. Your economic anxiety has been acknowledged. Can someone out there who voted for Trump now PLEASE acknowledge the racial (sexuality/religious/) anxiety his win has created?
No?
Why?
Let me copy pasta one of my posts from another thread which expands on that some more.
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As I said at the top of the previous page.
It's just very telling, especially on this page that Trump supporters simply cannot and will not:
a) Accept the effect their votes have already had regarding the rights of minorities
b) Following point A, be able to say "I know what I voted for, but I will not stand by if the Trump government starts a campaign against your rights.
c) Do anything else other than simply voice their point that they're upset you'd be troubled that they voted for something that's literally making them fearful.
EVERY, SINGLE post defending Trump voters is either some kind of second hand "well I'm sure they're not all racist" which is actually besides the point. You don't need to be racist to turn a blind eye to it. But that's also besides the point.
Or there's the people posting that they're not going to air their views because they fear criticism. Even though the question of the thread is only asking if they will actively denounce and reject any hate towards them whether it be the rise of hate groups or discriminatory legislation from Washington.
The fact that people are far more interested in defending their vote for Trump instead of denouncing his and his partys social views, even when it's not the topic of discussion says a lot imo.
The problem minorities have is that the majority need to be on their side if equality can ever be a reality.
So these discussions NEED to be had. Minorities would like to know where they stand and would like to hear that even if you voted for Trump based on the economy, you'd fight him on social issues geared against them.
But we're not seeing that on the television.
We're not hearing that on the radio.
We're not reading it on Internet forums.
We're not seeing it in Facebook posts.
We can't get anything else other than a defense that a vote for a racist doesn't make them.a racist, and that we need to listen to their issues and that's pretty much all were getting.
Ever.
In a time where the narrative of "we lost the election because we ignored the concerns of x group of Americans" is doing the rounds, the concerns of many Americans right now are being brushed aside because it makes too many feel "uncomfortable".
And I don't believe it's because they're afraid of criticism, but because of the fact that at some stage in the discussion, they will need to admit that regardless of their reasons for voting, their vote also meant something that they themselves are probably not ready to come to terms with yet.
If we cannot get people to at least accept point a) and make statement b), instead of just making point c) over and over and over, then the discussion of equality can't really happen, because it's representative of attitudes that prevent it in the first place
Welp.
Funnily enough, the only two people I've personally been able to hear both say they will work with Trump on his ambitions to change the way politics works and also take a solid stance against his bigotry are Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.
Why is it so difficult for basically everyone else ive ever seen discuss this election to say the same?
You know what also doesn't reduce racism?
Not a single Trump supporter being able to openly accept the racism their vote carried into the white house, regardless of their social or political leanings.
The HUGE portion of Americans who ignore institutionalised racism or refuse to believe or accept its existence is the problem minorities face in the first place when it comes to reducing racism.
Pushing the issue of race in America to the back of the queue so that we don't make people who wont accept its existence feel uncomfortable, certainly will not reduce racism. America ALREADY pushed the issue to the back of the queue the moment Trump made it into the white house.
He won. Your economic anxiety has been acknowledged. Can someone out there who voted for Trump now PLEASE acknowledge the racial (sexuality/religious/) anxiety his win has created?
No?
Why?
Let me copy pasta one of my posts from another thread which expands on that some more.
____________________________________________________________________________________
As I said at the top of the previous page.
It's just very telling, especially on this page that Trump supporters simply cannot and will not:
a) Accept the effect their votes have already had regarding the rights of minorities
b) Following point A, be able to say "I know what I voted for, but I will not stand by if the Trump government starts a campaign against your rights.
c) Do anything else other than simply voice their point that they're upset you'd be troubled that they voted for something that's literally making them fearful.
EVERY, SINGLE post defending Trump voters is either some kind of second hand "well I'm sure they're not all racist" which is actually besides the point. You don't need to be racist to turn a blind eye to it. But that's also besides the point.
Or there's the people posting that they're not going to air their views because they fear criticism. Even though the question of the thread is only asking if they will actively denounce and reject any hate towards them whether it be the rise of hate groups or discriminatory legislation from Washington.
The fact that people are far more interested in defending their vote for Trump instead of denouncing his and his partys social views, even when it's not the topic of discussion says a lot imo.
The problem minorities have is that the majority need to be on their side if equality can ever be a reality.
So these discussions NEED to be had. Minorities would like to know where they stand and would like to hear that even if you voted for Trump based on the economy, you'd fight him on social issues geared against them.
But we're not seeing that on the television.
We're not hearing that on the radio.
We're not reading it on Internet forums.
We're not seeing it in Facebook posts.
We can't get anything else other than a defense that a vote for a racist doesn't make them.a racist, and that we need to listen to their issues and that's pretty much all were getting.
Ever.
In a time where the narrative of "we lost the election because we ignored the concerns of x group of Americans" is doing the rounds, the concerns of many Americans right now are being brushed aside because it makes too many feel "uncomfortable".
And I don't believe it's because they're afraid of criticism, but because of the fact that at some stage in the discussion, they will need to admit that regardless of their reasons for voting, their vote also meant something that they themselves are probably not ready to come to terms with yet.
If we cannot get people to at least accept point a) and make statement b), instead of just making point c) over and over and over, then the discussion of equality can't really happen, because it's representative of attitudes that prevent it in the first place
Welp.
Funnily enough, the only two people I've personally been able to hear both say they will work with Trump on his ambitions to change the way politics works and also take a solid stance against his bigotry are Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.
Why is it so difficult for basically everyone else ive ever seen discuss this election to say the same?