No they've seemingly been confirmed.
ok maybe context will be the saving grace for everything. Text summaries can often make cool things sound worse than they are. But..... ouch....
So do you guys like the spoilers so far?
ok maybe context will be the saving grace for everything. Text summaries can often make cool things sound worse than they are. But..... ouch....
Again what about the leaks were bad?
I can't wait to write up my analysis of this game's gender politics
I mean if that's how you feel we're not going to see eye to eye but suffice to say if you really want to know just read that plot leak thread(don't intend to be dismissive I just don't think I can do a better job at expressing my feelings than all the pages that thread went through).
It perfectly describes the potential problems on all the ways it can fall flat badly.
I don't follow things closely (I'm mostly just enjoying the events as they unfold) but the peruvian guy said he hasnt seen a scene between Luna and the white haired dude yet, and that was in the trailers. So that means either it's a flashback, or Luna comes back. If someone with a bit more knowledge on the matter can confirm...
People overreacted to that thread mostly because it described a complete mess of a game, not functional, in June 2016, barely playing on Ps4, not even starting on Xbox One.
Story stuff the way they described it with those short plot list can make FF VI plot look like a joke. We already knew the leak ws mostly true about the story stuff, even Tabata confirmed it, even if he said the leakes weren't 100% true.
I see nothing bad, especially given no centext everything can look good and bad, we need to play it to see if they delivered the scenes in good or bad way.
I don't follow things closely (I'm mostly just enjoying the events as they unfold) but the peruvian guy said he hasnt seen a scene between Luna and the white haired dude yet, and that was in the trailers. So that means either it's a flashback, or Luna comes back. If someone with a bit more knowledge on the matter can confirm...
People overreacted to that thread mostly because it described a complete mess of a game, not functional, in June 2016, barely playing on Ps4, not even starting on Xbox One.
Story stuff the way they described it with those short plot list can make FF VI plot look like a joke. We already knew the leak ws mostly true about the story stuff, even Tabata confirmed it, even if he said the leakes weren't 100% true.
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Yeah that's why I said context can be its saving grace. As for the leaks being confirmed by Tabata wasn't aware of that.
As for the thread overreacting and this narrative about nothing bad... sigh... I'll just cite one thing among many which is the 10 years time skip for Noctis to gather enough energy.(Basically a dev cost vs story benefit and I ain't seeing it, it kind of showcases a focus on being flashy instead of having substance)
It's insanely stupid if taken at face value, when you think about the why create all these new models etc, why have this time skip which creates other story implications and the only justification being he needs to gather energy to go into the finale and all of it happens somewhat shortly after Luna's death, kind of takes the wind out of that event. It's just not very inspiring.
But yeah in the end like I said if you read the plot leaks and think it sounds totally fine I'm not going to agree with that perspective. In the end it does in some way boil down to what I personally would have liked the story to be, like with most story criticism.
It's also worrisome that the story was cited as a huge mess and my biggest worry is just that the characters all have no real depth to them, relying solely on their designs or tropes.
I will say the Judgement demo did make a good first impression for the core group.
But that's not enough to carry them through the whole game I really need these characters to be good
I thought it was Gentiana underneath her at first. Kind of disappointing.
Holy shit it's happening?!
Yeah that's why I said context can be its saving grace. As for the leaks being confirmed by Tabata wasn't aware of that.
As for the thread overreacting and this narrative about nothing bad... sigh... I'll just cite one thing among many which is the 10 years time skip for Noctis to gather enough energy.(Basically a dev cost vs story benefit and I ain't seeing it, it kind of showcases a focus on being flashy instead of having substance)
It's insanely stupid if taken at face value, when you think about the why create all these new models etc, why have this time skip which creates other story implications and the only justification being he needs to gather energy to go into the finale and all of it happens somewhat shortly after Luna's death, kind of takes the wind out of that event. It's just not very inspiring.
But yeah in the end like I said if you read the plot leaks and think it sounds totally fine I'm not going to agree with that perspective. In the end it does in some way boil down to what I personally would have liked the story to be, like with most story criticism.
It's also worrisome that the story was cited as a huge mess and my biggest worry is just that the characters all have no real depth to them, relying solely on their designs or tropes.
I will say the Judgement demo did make a good first impression for the core group.
But that's not enough to carry them through the whole game I really need these characters to be good
Characters feel doubly important for a game more about "the journey" than anything else, but people seem to be of the opinion that if anything the story might have been sacrificed at the expense of character etc. It also apparently makes use of talks in the Regalia/out and about vs text box cutscenes ala FFs of old.
Holy shit it's happening?!
So now that Ardyn is pretty much proven to be a 2000 years old, evil fuckery thing that's the final boss...What's the point of the empire? Aldercapt, and Verstael and what not...Story better get better as it goes on haha.
What a goddamn mess.
I thought it was Gentiana underneath her at first. Kind of disappointing.
80 side quests huh? Also looks like there're 6 summons total. Ramuh, Shiva, Ifrit, Leviathan, Titan and one more
Personally would be fine with that. Personally characters that are worth remembering are more important to me than the overall plot.
Quite frankly, the story seems to be about as rich as FF1. Crystals, four heroes and one magical asshole who's the final boss. Luna gets fridged but she's Ubisoft iconic. The shallowest move Tabata could do. Sephiroth wannabe moment lol.
Yes, my thought exactly. What i hate story the most is how they just focus on king, true king, only king, blah blah blah. Meanwhile, FF VS XIII depicted the war between Niflheim and Lucis, how Noctis seeks revenge and takes crystal back.
I'm so angry when they turn hood man character to Ravus who does not have any importance to the lore.
Yes, my thought exactly. What i hate story the most is how they just focus on king, true king, only king, blah blah blah. Meanwhile, FF VS XIII depicted the war between Niflheim and Lucis, how Noctis seeks revenge and takes crystal back.
I'm so angry when they turn hood man character to Ravus who does not have any importance to the lore.
Agreed. Your profile pic reminds me...Persona 4 is one of my favorite games of all time, but I love it for the characters, not so much for the plot.I wouldn't imagine that Noctis and Co would be my first choice of fictional characters to spend time with but if at the end I end up thinking "*sigh*....I miss them" then I'll be happy.
lightning would never have done this to us.
come back, queen.
What if i told you that Tidus is a dream before you played FF X? What would you think?
she cannot be <3She must not be forgotten.
Also, in response to your previous post - We still have Iris, Aranea and Gentiana as far as prominent females in this game. There's still hope that those characters end up being great. Of course they aren't nearly as important as Luna eh.
she cannot be <3
after cindy and now this i'm kind of throwing hope out the window
but you're right, there's still a chance for them.
I don't blame you, Cindy is such a mistake that I forgot about her when responding, haha.
Probably the same response I had when it was revealed "...what"
Didn't they confirm carbuncle as well? as a bonus at least from platinum demo.
I doubt they would give him his own trophy though
So do you guys like the spoilers so far?
I'd forgotten Cindy even existed until just now >_>
What if i told you that Tidus is a dream before you played FF X? What would you think?
I love the game, but FFX has a stupid plot, so this isn't exactly a rousing defense of FFXV's plot leaks.What if i told you that Tidus is a dream before you played FF X? What would you think?
I love the game, but FFX has a stupid plot, so this isn't exactly a rousing defense of FFXV's plot leaks.
Don't suppose we get anymore closure about the surviving characters from Kingsglaive? I know the story isn't about them, and I found Kingsglaive to be boring as hell, but it'd feel a bit...weird for Glauca etc to not appear at some point.
He died though.