Yeah but the number squad members and races add up better if you use ME1.
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MASS EFFECT: ANDROMEDA Gameplay Series #2: Characters
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Yeah but the number squad members and races add up better if you use ME1.
Looking forward to experiencing ME Andromeda regardless but I am questioning their design approach (at least as it comes across in the marketing / videos).
It seems to me (and I could be totally off here) that they have used combat gameplay as the foundation / base philosophy from which the rest of the design of the game is derived. I do enjoy combat - particularly tactical combat - and I appreciate that having a more open multi-style approach is appealing to a broader audience; but it's not really what ME is about for me.
I'm not sure I agree with not locking in your character profile / style - I'm struggling to explain / convey what I mean but it just feels like not committing to it minimises the sense of significance in your choice, and also the sense of the avatar being "your" Ryder and your adventure. It just feels like it flies in the face of its RPG roots.
I'm not suggesting that the combat will be bad; it looks pretty great. Still looking forward to this a lot.
It seems to me (and I could be totally off here) that they have used combat gameplay as the foundation / base philosophy from which the rest of the design of the game is derived. I do enjoy combat - particularly tactical combat - and I appreciate that having a more open multi-style approach is appealing to a broader audience; but it's not really what ME is about for me.
I'm not sure I agree with not locking in your character profile / style - I'm struggling to explain / convey what I mean but it just feels like not committing to it minimises the sense of significance in your choice, and also the sense of the avatar being "your" Ryder and your adventure. It just feels like it flies in the face of its RPG roots.
I'm not suggesting that the combat will be bad; it looks pretty great. Still looking forward to this a lot.
shinobi602
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I think that's jumping to a lot of conclusions before getting to know these characters. Rather than just making connections simply from appearances, let's wait and see what their personalities are and what makes them tick first
I can't wait to lock Liam and PeeBee into some closet. Liam gives impression of your normal forced and overwritten cooldude that BW likes to do, every ME game has one. PeeBee is just Sera 2.0, immature kid playing adventure :/
Edit: Maybe I'm wrong, but initial vibes
APZonerunner
Member
I'm curious, what is it about Liam that screams Jacob to you?
Yup. Based on my experience with the AI in the other games, any non-player character with biotic charge (Cora, I guess, in this case) is going to get herself killed almost instantly (especially if you can't control when she uses it).
Darkstorne
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Mœbius;230862920 said:
Yeah, the "do anything and everything" approach will take some getting used to, but it might work out fine. We still get points to spend to level up the different profiles, so I can see most people focusing more on their class of choice, and only investing a few upgrades into the other trees to supplement their playstyle. The lack of squad control is an issue though, and seems similar to how much control was removed from DA:I with the "new and improved" tactics system.
As for marketing, remember that Mass 3's marketing was literally all "Take Back Earth" with cinematic shots of Shepard fighting in a massive battle down on our planet swinging his omni blade around. The actual game was far more emotional and more focused on the turmoil your squadmates went through as you saw all of their home planets getting destroyed, with Earth only really coming into play at the end of the game. So I wouldn't get too worried about the combat focus just yet - seems par for the course to secure as many pre-orders as possible.
SargerusBR
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loving everything i'm seeing
I think that's jumping to a lot of conclusions before getting to know these characters. Rather than just making connections simply from appearances, let's wait and see what their personalities are and what makes them tick first
I'm not saying the personalities are what matches up. The races. It just seems like they're trying to have all but 1 of the races for the squad match up with ME1.
I think that's jumping to a lot of conclusions before getting to know these characters. Rather than just making connections simply from appearances, let's wait and see what their personalities are and what makes them tick first
You're totally right, I'm only talking about appearances. I'm sure they'll be different personality wise
Cora = white biotic girl in skin tight suit
Liam = black specialist soldier with muscly frame
Only talking about visual character design only.
Deathknell
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Another meh combat video..
SargerusBR
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Cora Harper? Like as Jack Harper aka Illusive Man?
Sleeping Lesson
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Yikes.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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That is the speculation among fans. Though I believe Mac Walters squashed the theory that the Andromeda Initiative itself is a Cerberus back program. Doesn't dismiss the possibility of them being related though.
Yep lol.
OniBarubary
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One new playable species?
Get fucked, Bioware
Get fucked, Bioware
Sleeping Lesson
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You only play as a human in the single player. Multiplayer, I imagine, will have many different playable species. Probably more than one new one.
.....really? Chill mate.
I think that's jumping to a lot of conclusions before getting to know these characters. Rather than just making connections simply from appearances, let's wait and see what their personalities are and what makes them tick first
Can you tell us if there will be any more companions than the ones shown in this video (not asking for a specific number or names or anything, just yes or no)?
shinobi602
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No.
Lionheart1827
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Looks great, though I'm worrying about the no controls for teammates. If the AI is anything like 2 and 3 its gonna be ASS.
I remember constantly telling my idiot squadmates to go back into cover because they'd just run out of it constantly and getting shot up. Frustrating as hell.
I remember constantly telling my idiot squadmates to go back into cover because they'd just run out of it constantly and getting shot up. Frustrating as hell.
RedlineRonin
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Is it seriously that hard to type "I'm disappointed there's only one new playable species"?
Exactly.
SargerusBR
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The Volus companion dream continues ;_;
Thanks for the reply
! I must admit I find that a bit disappointing. Not really feeling the companions at all right now (but then I don't yet know a whole lot about most of them so that might change.. and I guess there's always the non-companion characters).coredecepts
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Now hold on.
Was that "No" in response to "Can you tell us if" or "will there be any more companions"?
If it's the former, then that just means Shinobi can't tell us either way.
FTFY.
Tertullian
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The squadmate races don't matter; the game was confirmed to be a failure the moment it became clear I wouldn't be riding an Elcor into battle.
fierrotlepou
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Huge focus on combat apparently. It's obviously important, but the world is so much more important. I hope that - while making the game - they focused on the ME universe first of all. The world and the exploration is what Mass Effect is, imo. Combat is second.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Now hold on.
Was that "No" in response to "Can you tell us if" or "will there be any more companions"?
If it's the former, then that just means Shinobi can't tell us either way.
Yeah I'm confused, not expecting any more though.
Papacheeks
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wait? You can't send squad ability commands in battle like you have been able to do in past games?
They are just AI there to fight?
Am I misreading this?
They are just AI there to fight?
Am I misreading this?
ShemhazaiX
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Only thing I'm not liking so far is the ability to just be everything by switching loadouts. That's what your squadmates are for. The profile system just looks a bit meh to me.
Other than that, the game looks great so far.
Other than that, the game looks great so far.
SoRuffShoNuff
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Thanks for the reply
You do realize that the "no" answer he gave you could very likely be answering the actual question you asked "Can you tell us if there will be any more companions than the ones shown in this video".
AllIsOneIsNone
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The last combat video shows smaller enemies that go down much quicker. These bulky guys probably have a ton of armor. Not really sure why they used this particular part to demo though, perhaps to show combos.
Enemies in ME3 had a fun set of abilities, and the enemy groups were designed to have synergy. Consider Cerberus, who had shield guys covering standard troops who used grenades to get you out of cover, commanders throwing around smoke that made messed up everything for the player and snipers who kept you under cover. The AI wasn't smart really, but the design made them pretty effective teams all the same.
Sure, they were bullet-sponges, but that is not unusual for games in general. But if they could be all dropped with one or two shots, there would have be hordes of enemies (which would be silly), or the game would be pretty damn easy.
The Last Wizard
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It's hard to when bioware barely giving us the chance to get to see these characters.I think that's jumping to a lot of conclusions before getting to know these characters. Rather than just making connections simply from appearances, let's wait and see what their personalities are and what makes them tick first
Now hold on.
Was that "No" in response to "Can you tell us if" or "will there be any more companions"?
If it's the former, then that just means Shinobi can't tell us either way.
Short of devs lying on Twitter they are saying that these 6 are all squadies you are going to get in MEA.
You can hotkey favorites on PC.
Companions only had 3 Powers in ME2/3 (at least) as well.
Not sold on the reasoning for removing Power usage. At least give us one companion Power on left/right dpad that we can't pause for if you don't wanna slow down combat. Ya know, like we could do in the trilogy.
Exploratory
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THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED.
Then on my second and third playthroughs I'll change profiles like god intended.
Papacheeks
Banned
Yea, this is the most we've actually seen of the game, they have kept it close to the chest, which means there are big changes to core gameplay that fan's have come accustomed to.
Like having he ability wheel, giving our squad commands.
And in the 4th entry to not be able to be anything outside of a human is a huge missed opportunity.
Wait? There are only 6 squad-mates to choose from in the entire game? Holly shit fucking fail to the 10th degree. I fucking swear if I hear or see new squadmates as DLC or something in the season pass I'm totally boycotting this just like I did with Mass effect 3.
No command over squadmate powers = colossal headache. E.G., you prime enemy for a biotic detonation (because you have a zillion points in the adept profile) and dummy squadmate detonates that primer even tho they have a lesser or no biotic detonation bonus; or dummy squad mate overwrites your biotic primer with a, say, tech primer. So...if the npc AI is brain dead, I'll end up only giving npcs'passive and weapon points (and then I suppose the npcs will overwrite my biotic primers with the special ammo priming effects!).
Deathknell
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Totally agree, those videos are like gears of war in space for me..
Already bought the game on cdkeys so..i have faith.
Jesus people. ME1 only had 6 and ME3 vanilla only had six.
I did after posting that
. However, I find that to be unlikely. Shinobi tends to try and defend/be positive about the game in most of his posts and in this case, deliberately making his reply ambiguous if there actually are more companions would kind of be at odds with that (unless he himself didn't realise that it would be ambiguous in which case it would still make more sense for the no to refer to the question of whether there will be more companions, seeing as I asked him to just make it a yes or no answer).Roster of Andromeda is tad on bland side, tbh. 1 new race and rest are safe Milky Way bets. I would have loved to see e.g. synthetic companion from Andromeda Galaxy along with Jaal.
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