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DF: The Last of Us Part 1 PS5 vs The Last of Us Remastered PS4 Pro - Improvements Detailed!

Caio

Member
DF are impressed about the improvements, and I'm happy to hear that. I loved TLOU on PS3, and the Part I remake is a Day one, I need to play it again in full glory :)
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Man, it looks like those who share similar views as me are labeled grumpy or "concerned", which is unfortunate . What's so terrible about expecting a PS5 remake from Naughty Dog to eclipse what has been accomplished in TLOU2 in a significant manner? We have these expectations not to dunk on Playstation, but because we know how technically proficient Naughty Dog is and how much of a hardware leap the PS5 is over PS4. As great as Horizon Forbidden West is, I didn't expect it to be more impressive than this TLOU remake due to it's cross gen nature, yet here we are. I expect Ragnarok to be more impressive as well if it turns out this reveal trailer is the extent of all the PS5 enhancements. And it doesn't even make business sense as they would make tons more money releasing a PS4 version alongside PS5 remake, especially considering the extended cross gen period caused by covid. Everything about this is so strange based on what has been revealed so far.

So how many games released so far today look better than this TLOU 1 Remake?
 

ChiefDada

Gold Member
So how many games released so far today look better than this TLOU 1 Remake?

HFW looks more impressive to me, especially being open world. I expect Ragnarok to be more impressive as well.

But honestly it's not about comparing to other games. It's about recognizing what ND was able to accomplish on base PS4 with TLOU2 and seeing marginal improvement with the remake. The trailer looks great, no question. But I can't label it impressive without pretending TLOU2 doesn't exist.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Are you saying ND purposefully nerfed their own technical prowess in order to make their PS5 game look like a PS4 game?

1. It's a Remake. No need to throw more resources at it than need be.
2. They wanted it to look and feel like how TLOU2 looks and feels when played on the PS5.
3. This isn't a crime or something that's morally terrible. It's a simple business decision, that to some makes sense.
4. It looks better than 95% of games on the market today.
5. Are you mad?
 

Swift_Star

Banned
Well if its a bundled with a console of cause that will increase the number of people who play it. So what?
I think most people interested have already played TLOU recently. TLOU2 is one of my favourite games and even I am not excited for TLOU remake bacuse i played tlou remastered in anticipation for TLOU2.

but this is all beyond the point.

The point is I would rather ND use there time on new content, rather then a game that is fresh in most TLOU fans minds.

Answer this, Do you think TLOU remake is a better use of ND's time then new content? Or even a remake of an older game of theres?
course diss GIF

Seriously, dude... ND should do whatever they feel like, I'm not their boss.
 

Sosokrates

Report me if I continue to console war
course diss GIF

Seriously, dude... ND should do whatever they feel like, I'm not their boss.

You were the one who originally replied to me about a different point. Frankly i dont know why you're even quoting me. Im glad you agree with ND/sonys choices, I dont and theres nothing wrong with having a different opinion. Let it go.
 

Swift_Star

Banned
You were the one who originally replied to me about a different point. Frankly i dont know why you're even quoting me. Im glad you agree with ND/sonys choices, I dont and theres nothing wrong with having a different opinion. Let it go.
No, the point you made was saying the game won’t be played by the vast majority of HBO viewers which is false. And suddenly you moved goalposts to “naughty dog should do a new game”.
🙂
 

Sosokrates

Report me if I continue to console war
No, the point you made was saying the game won’t be played by the vast majority of HBO viewers which is false. And suddenly you moved goalposts to “naughty dog should do a new game”.
🙂

My point was that casual newcomers from the tv show who buy it on the PS5 will be very small because.

1.PS5 and the game is expensive for casual gaming newcomers.
2. Casual newcomers are not going to be as bothered by the new visual upgrades
3. I dont think the TV show will bring in that many new players. And the majority who it does will probably pick up the remastered version because its far cheaper and PS4's are cheaper and far more accessible.

The only reason you give for why the remaster will be forgotten is because of visuals but you ignore the fact that the remaster is cheaper, PS4s are easier and cheaper to get and casual gamers dont care as much about visual upgrades.

Also you originally moved the goal posts by saying that because of a remake ps5 bundle it will sell loads. Well I was talking about gaming newcomers from the tv show. Anyone could buy a ps5 remake bundle. I dont know how this shows my point to be incorrect.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
You do realize that they wanted it to look and feel like TLOU2 right?
you do realize thats a load of BS, right?
Are you saying ND purposefully nerfed their own technical prowess in order to make their PS5 game look like a PS4 game?
lol exactly. Why didnt they downgrade TLOU2 to look like TLOU 1 on the PS3 if they wanted to keep the same feel and look?

This was just a PS4 game from the start. ND took over because Neil had nothing planned after TLOU2 aside from working on the tv show, and now they are stuck making a last gen game in 2022. A real ND next gen game is going to blow minds. It will break the internet. Mark my words.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
you do realize thats a load of BS, right?

lol exactly. Why didnt they downgrade TLOU2 to look like TLOU 1 on the PS3 if they wanted to keep the same feel and look?

This was just a PS4 game from the start. ND took over because Neil had nothing planned after TLOU2 aside from working on the tv show, and now they are stuck making a last gen game in 2022. A real ND next gen game is going to blow minds. It will break the internet. Mark my words.

So you'd want ND to spend an additional 12 months on the game to make it a real next Gen game?
 

EDMIX

Member
Technically it could be on last gen with downgrades but the purpose of this was to get new staff up to speed with PS5 hardware. Also people forget adding in a last gen version is even more work now because devs have to make a port for both PS4 and Pro.
God Of War Ps4 GIF by PlayStation

Agreed, even with still looking for a PS5, I'm fine with the remake being next gen only.

let them move on, let them learn the new hardware. I want it with no compromise.

You seem concerned, when they have said as much as them wanting cohesion between the two so it's like one big seamless story. Continuity between the two.

This is by design. Their next IP is where we will see their PS5 central efforts, me thinks.

Agreed, I was just going to say that. They want both games to look alike by design to make them fit. I think where they can do better, they will do on a 100% new engine made for PS5 from the ground up, likely for The Last Of Us 3. This looks amazing regardless.
 

EDMIX

Member
Have you not been paying attention? They are bringing all the TLOU2 gameplay improvements to this game. Better mechanics, combat, animations, A.I and possibly even weapons.

It's basically TLOU with TLOU2's combat and graphics.

Agreed, so it sounds like sorta a Twin Snakes situation where they took Metal Gear Solid 2's mechanics and gameplay and engine and put in Metal Gear Solid 1.

From The Last Of Us 1 to 2 gameplay wise, that shit is night and day.

Prone, better AI like them teaming up, flanking you, looking for fallen teammates, dogs smelling you and following the scent, the rope mechanics, breaking windows and such. Simply with those ideas alone, its 100% a full remake, not just a "better GRX" lol, a FULL REMAKE. I love the first game, but I forgave a lot of the bad gameplay based on it being a new IP, it simply didn't stand a chance against MGS4 that gen or other better stealth 3rd person shooters, I loved its world, story, concept etc more then the actual gameplay stuff and I was able to put that aside.

The Last Of Us 2 though? Dear lord, they are chasing fucking Metal Gear Solid now, its that deep right now. They add in moving bodies and its basically that. I never thought they'd add soooooo much to the sequel in terms of gameplay, that while playing thru 2 many times, I kept thinking "damn it would have been fucking awesome if the first game felt and played this good"


Now....here we are. lol

Soon.
 
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Skifi28

Member
It looks good enough visually I guess and I'd play it, but I'm certainly not buying again full price as I've finished the original like 6-7 times.

I wish they would have expanded a bit more on everything rather than go for a 1:1 remake, that's the worst part. The original is there and playable on modern platforms, do something more with it.
 
I love when I see people taking shots at this by saying that it doesn't look better than TLoU2. As if there were many game out there that could claim to look better than TLoU2.

Being able to play both game back to back in a cohesive presentation is going to be great. Will it be worth $70 to most people? Certainly not but game drop in price.

I didn't want this nor liked the idea of a remake, but so far it looks great, seems very respectful to the original game. Too bad they didn't add some DLC side content to this, like a Left Behind sized Joel and Tommy early days flash back, like Ellie got with Left Behind.
 
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Unknown?

Member
Seeing DF compare footage side by side it becomes apparent what a huge jump the PS5 version is and that is saying something coming from the pinnacle of PS3 era games.

In my mind TLOU1 PS3 always looks better than it actually did. Some sort of Super Mario 64 effect I guess.

Can't wait to play it. Yo Sony 79€ in Europe is still daylight robbery. Give us some slack you greedy jimmies.
Tell your continent to get REAL money not just printed monopoly money and you would be paying less.
 

hemo memo

Member
I love when I see people taking shots at this by saying that it doesn't look better than TLoU2. As if there were many game out there that could claim to look better than TLoU2.

Being able to play both game back to back in a cohesive presentation is going to be great. Will it be worth $70 to most people? Certainly not but game drop in price.

I didn't want this nor liked the idea of a remake, but so far it looks great, seems very respectful to the original game. Too bad they didn't add some DLC side content to this, like a Left Behind sized Joel and Tommy early days flash back, like Ellie got with Left Behind.
It is from the same dev dude on a new hardware and selling the game at 70$. Of course people are expecting a big upgrade from a game released on the previous hardware.
 
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It is from the same dev dude on a new hardware and selling the game at 70$. Of course people are expecting a big upgrade from a game released on the previous hardware.
Keep expecting it then, it is what it is and it looks fantastic and so does TLoU2.

Show me something that look better please.
 
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THEAP99

Banned
It looks good enough visually I guess and I'd play it, but I'm certainly not buying again full price as I've finished the original like 6-7 times.

I wish they would have expanded a bit more on everything rather than go for a 1:1 remake, that's the worst part. The original is there and playable on modern platforms, do something more with it.
They will show supposed gameplay upgrades
 

Bogroll

Likes moldy games
I'm planning on replaying PS4 version on Ps5 but I'm not paying £70 for this upgrade. Daylight robbery.
 

Ellery

Member
Tell your continent to get REAL money not just printed monopoly money and you would be paying less.

Are you unaware that every single country is using fiat money? :pie_thinking:

So all money is just printed currency without anything backing it up no matter the continent.

With everything going on regarding extremely high inflation that was caused by money printing, including the US Federal Reserve, how do you not know this?
 
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