Chuckie
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He killed other Muslims as well so I don't know how racists will turn it into "See?Islam is evil!".
Fundamentalists kill moderate muslims all the time, that has never stopped some from saying the whole of islam is evil.
He killed other Muslims as well so I don't know how racists will turn it into "See?Islam is evil!".
well this proves that you do not have to be intelligent to be a terrorist....
Just being mobile and able to handle a gun or detonation trigger should do it.
Security services need to keep better surveillance on known extremists as well as people travelling to Pakistan though.
Have terrorist been known as intelligent at some point? I thought the general stereotype is uneducated young male who is severely brainwashed. Guys at the top of course can't be dummies but people who they sent out to do various dirty deeds aren't that bright at all.
Fundamentalists kill moderate muslims all the time, that has never stopped some from saying the whole of islam is evil.
Common misconception. Many western islamic terrorists are well educated and come from comfortable backgrounds.
I should have said "See?All Muslims are evil".Though this won't stop some people.
One of Le Pen advisers already talked about reestablishing the death penalty.
I should have said "See?All Muslims are evil".Though this won't stop some people.
One of Le Pen advisers already talked about reestablishing the death penalty.
I'm actually ok with that if people who keep denying Holocaust get the chair first.
Common misconception. Many western islamic terrorists are well educated and come from comfortable backgrounds.
You would kill people for holding a stupid opinion?
I knew there was a reason I liked you.
These two sentences have almost nothing in common.
What does Muslim bashing have to do with potentially reestablishing the death penalty for convicted terrorist child killers etc?
Because they're politically hijacking the murders?
And what does that have to do with Muslim bashing? Or as you put it "See? All Muslims are evil"
The fact that this man (who admits his guilt and connections with al-Qaeda) happens to be Muslim is irrelevant. He is a mass murderer and the Le Pen adviser is suggesting that people like that deserve the chair. I disagree with him, but that doesn't mean he's attacking all Muslims by stating that, as you suggest.
And what does that have to do with Muslim bashing? Or as you put it "See? All Muslims are evil"
The fact that this man (who admits his guilt and connections with al-Qaeda) happens to be Muslim is irrelevant. He is potentially a mass murderer and the Le Pen adviser is suggesting that people like that deserve the chair. I disagree with him, but that doesn't mean he's attacking all Muslims by stating that, as you suggested.
9/11 was done with cutters and other small knives.well this proves that you do not have to be intelligent to be a terrorist....
Anders Behring Breivik struck me as very intelligent. In his opinion, everything, even his arrest and trial have gone as planned.Have terrorist been known as intelligent at some point?
Many islamic terrorists were/are actually well-educated, with graduate degrees.I thought the general stereotype is uneducated young male who is severely brainwashed.
And what does that have to do with Muslim bashing? Or as you put it "See? All Muslims are evil"
The fact that this man (who admits his guilt and connections with al-Qaeda) happens to be Muslim is irrelevant. He is potentially a mass murderer and the Le Pen adviser is suggesting that people like that deserve the chair. I disagree with him, but that doesn't mean he's attacking all Muslims by stating that, as you suggested.
Marine Le Pen, presidential candidate for the far-right National Front, says the "fundamentalist threat has been underestimated" in France.
How about we don't discuss it in this thread?This political campaign is definitely fucked up. Are we really going to consider reinstating death penalty? [URL=" ABOUT FUCKING NO.[/URL]
How about we don't discuss it in this thread?This political campaign is definitely fucked up. Are we really going to consider reinstating death penalty? HOW ABOUT FUCKING NO.
So he wasn't a nazillon after all...
Marine is jumpin the shark
What's that?
<cups hand to ear?>
The collective moan of liberals who were just begging this to be some right wing nazis freak so they could continue their attack on right wing politics, realising that the 'right wing' was right all along and that it was their peaceful religion that is always viewed terribly in the media and so they must just to defend at every possible opportunity?
Face it, Islam has some seriously dodgy followers. You can't deny that, and you can't jump on us for assuming them every time something gets blown up.
According to the reports, the man currently barricaded in his flat is the shooter involved in all the events. They also got his brother and other members of his family. His brother is suspected of being involved in some manner too.One of the quoted articles here suggested the one who killed the children got away so there are two, brothers? They've got the one who killed the soldiers?
Try this : http://www.bfmtv.com/direct/Is their a live stream coverage of this?
They don't want him dead so they are trying to make him surrender.Can someone explain to me why this is taking so long? Isn't this going on for hours now?
Can someone explain to me why this is taking so long? Isn't this going on for hours now?
Try this : http://www.bfmtv.com/direct/
Might be region locked.
Muslim Fundamentalists end up killing Muslims all the time, it's one of the sickest part of Fundamentalist Islam. He believes his religion justifies it as being OK.He killed other Muslims as well so I don't know how racists will turn it into "See?Islam is evil!".
According to the reports, the man currently barricaded in his flat is the shooter involved in all the events. They also got his brother and other members of his family. His brother is suspected of being involved in some manner too.
They don't want him dead so they are trying to make him surrender.
Dunno... maybe It could take too long for the gas to fill up the place.Why not douse the shit out of the place with cs gas through his air vents, windows, etc?
EDIT: Eh, rest of family yeah I see why.
Dunno... maybe It could take too long for the gas to fill up the place.
Or he might try to shoot like a miniac again or kill himself.
Well I figure the reason is more the other family members. Time could also be a concern unless the French have some crazy agents lying around like the Russian's did for that Opera House siege...not that I'd recommend using that.
I wonder if he just want's to upload his video first. Hence the power cut.
Sorry, i think i didn't make myself clear few posts before (english is not my native language).
The suspect is alone in his flat, the place is surrounded by the authorities.
The other family members were caught earlier today at a different place, some might be involved, some not.
Why not use that "sleep" nerve gas the Russian used in the theater held up by Chechens? Anyone remember that?
The suspect said he had time to do it but noting is confirmed yet.I'm still wondering if he's trying to upload the video first before he gets taken in. I like to think that's why power was cut.
Ah I see, no worries at all.
Because that was more useful for attacking NATO troops in the Fulda Gap then for hostage rescue. If you mean to kill him, hey no arguments from me unless they think they can get actionable intelligence from. The re-open and ship his ass off to Devil's Island!
I'm still wondering if he's trying to upload the video first before he gets taken in. I like to think that's why power was cut.
I would hope he didn't, but I suspect he may have been uploading it after each attack. I really hope he didn't.The suspect said he had time to do it but noting is confirmed yet.
Perhaps its via mobile, though you would think that would be cut or throttled unless its needed for communications with police.That's what my flatmates and I were wondering, we were watching this at noon and wondering if he was stalling for time to upload stuff. But surely his internet access has been cut?
If he makes it through the night, I'm guessing the RAID will have to barge in. But I'd bet he won't.