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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights

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kylej

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yo if starwolf is allowed to have a new account after getting permabanned, can eazyb get unbanned please? that doesn't seem very fair.
 
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User 73706

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Sai-kun said:
edited because that's probably bannable on some level. my favorite fruits are pomegranates and blueberries
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orznge

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willow ve said:
Will there still be anyone left in 3 months who's clamoring for more 4v4 small symmetrical maps? I can't imagine they'll stick around for months and months and months with the hope that they get more 4v4 maps into the game. That's a lot of time playing Haven over and over again.

And please, for the love of everything in Halo, can we at least get symmetrical spawns on Haven? Why do you spawn in the middle of the arc and the other team on the bottom of the ramp? Why not at each end of the map? Just once I would like to hear a developer defend some of these decisions like this.
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Dynamic.
 
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kittens

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Aggrotek said:
I like objective in Halo 4. :(
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Me too, except for CTF. All those things that people identified as problems months ago turned out to be problems. The carrier waypoint being the worst, in my opinion.

Oddball is great, though. Auto pick up sucks, but kind of makes sense with the throwing mechanic. And KOTH is great, even if I don't like the maps much.

Edit : I feel like when I say something positive about Halo 4, I have a habit of following it up with a negative remark. I swear it's not intentional, lol. I just have few things I like about this game, and nearly every positive element is marred by a handful of negatives.
 
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Der Flatulator

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willow ve said:
Will there still be anyone left in 3 months who's clamoring for more 4v4 small symmetrical maps? I can't imagine they'll stick around for months and months and months with the hope that they get more 4v4 maps into the game. That's a lot of time playing Haven over and over again.

And please, for the love of everything in Halo, can we at least get symmetrical spawns on Haven? Why do you spawn in the middle of the arc and the other team on the bottom of the ramp? Why not at each end of the map? Just once I would like to hear a developer defend some of these decisions like this.
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I like Haven and Solace. Not much variety, but better quality than what we had in Reach.
 
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willow ve

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kittens said:
Me too, except for CTF. All those things that people identified as problems months ago turned out to be problems. The carrier waypoint being the worst, in my opinion.

Oddball is great, though. Auto pick up sucks, but kind of makes sense with the throwing mechanic. And KOTH is great, even if I don't like the maps much.
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CTF was a misstep in the game. They could fix it ever so slightly by simply allowing faster return times when standing near the flag (risk + reward). Or they could just drop the return time down to 15 seconds so an opposing player doesn't have the chance to die a total of three times, respawn each time, and attempt to sprint to the flag area.

I've found the only time you get a return is on large maps like Ragnarok or if the other team simply gives up going for the flag.
 
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Bregmann Roche

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Aggrotek said:
I like objective in Halo 4. :(
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kittens said:
Me too, except for CTF. All those things that people identified as problems months ago turned out to be problems. The carrier waypoint being the worst, in my opinion.

Oddball is great, though. Auto pick up sucks, but kind of makes sense with the throwing mechanic. And KOTH is great, even if I don't like the maps much.
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Aside from a few missteps, 343 knocked objective out of the park (especially compared to the lol factory that Team Objective was in Reach). So that's a positive.
 
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CyReN

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thezerofire said:
Yeah, Ball on Lockout (a little big), Extraction on Station 9 (weird, dunno if I like the map but the gametype is fun, and Flag on Simplex (this is really good. More of these maps please)
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Glad you guys like it, there's a bit of a debate going on switching it to BR (possibly adding Carbine/LR at slot 2/3) and not having DMR but it's just talks atm. Feel free to leave feedback here.

Aggrotek said:
What is Simplex?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjmnYyVUA7g
 
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Gray Man

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kylej said:
yo if starwolf is allowed to have a new account after getting permabanned, can eazyb get unbanned please? that doesn't seem very fair.
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Yeah? Well its not fair that everyone here has to deal with your constant stream of whining and your mind numbing bitter attitude.

So why don't you crack open another beer, and continue to drag this Halo Community down with your awful tone and malice, very few here appreciate it, and it has never been welcome.

Ramirez said:
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Plywood

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Aggrotek said:
I like objective in Halo 4. :(
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Okay, it's clear I'm being too vague.

They neutered Objective by:

Removing Assault
JIP
W/L don't matter/No Ranks
Removing Customization Options

So for them to say they're making a map pack for objective it seems redundant since the entire game is about how much of a handjob the game can give you when you pad you're K/D and objective just results in a bunch of racked up kills when the enemy team can't get to the objective.



Also let me remove the white text.
 
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kittens

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Bregmann Roche said:
Aside from a few missteps, 343 knocked objective out of the park (especially compared to the lol factory that Team Objective was in Reach). So that's a positive.
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What was wrong with Reach Objective? I mean, aside from the core gameplay, mediocre maps, Headhunter, and Stockpile.
 
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zap

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Gray Man said:
Yeah? Well its not fair that everyone here has to deal with your constant stream of whining and your mind numbing bitter attitude.

So why don't you crack open another beer, and continue to drag this Halo Community down with your awful tone and malice, very few here appreciate it, and it has never been welcome.



You're not cool enough to use a Star Trek Giffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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Uhhh...

Wow.
 
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thezerofire

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Gray Man said:
Yeah? Well its not fair that everyone here has to deal with your constant stream of whining and your mind numbing bitter attitude.

So why don't you crack open another beer, and continue to drag this Halo Community down with your awful tone and malice, very few here appreciate it, and it has never been welcome.



You're not cool enough to use a Star Trek Giffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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damn. also there is the ignore function if he annoys you that much
 
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AllIsOneIsNone

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Mine, and I think most people's personal taste clearly illustrates the partiality towards smaller maps.

Halo 2 (this is personal preference but some of it's just common knowledge):
-ascension, beaver creek, foundation, lockout, midship, sanctuary, turf, zanzibar.

Halo 3:
-the pit, narrows, heretic, guardian, construct, blackout, Valhalla.

An overwhelming number of these maps are smaller. More movement/flanking, more use for a variety of weapons, more interesting teamwork, more fun.

Haven is so damn good, it already makes up for sprint with all the extra square footage; small maps in previous Halos are obviously smaller because of this. Yet even with all that extra room Haven has got to be the smallest map in the game. Why?

Gray Man said:
Yeah? Well its not fair that everyone here has to deal with your constant stream of whining and your mind numbing bitter attitude.

So why don't you crack open another beer, and continue to drag this Halo Community down with your awful tone and malice, very few here appreciate it, and it has never been welcome.



You're not cool enough to use a Star Trek Giffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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I cautiously agree with you here. HaloGAF is a tough bunch of nerds, thus the cautiousness.
 
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MaximumFlipFlop

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Gray Man said:
Yeah? Well its not fair that everyone here has to deal with your constant stream of whining and your mind numbing bitter attitude.

So why don't you crack open another beer, and continue to drag this Halo Community down with your awful tone and malice, very few here appreciate it, and it has never been welcome.
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zap

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Gray Man said:
Can't wait to face you in the league turkey!
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You should all watch this movie:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzDn5MEjcrI[/url] full movie in hd![/QUOTE]

I would rather read 100 kylej/eazyb posts before another one of these posts.
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Summary Man

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GhaleonEB said:
Be that as it may, Halo's combat design is also unique among modern shooters. And so the many ways in which it both has and has not been updated in Halo 4 has created some tension and contradictions in the game design, IMO. For example, instant respawn doesn't work with Halo because Halo was built around the idea of a required downtime between encounters for players to recharge their shields. Letting a defeated player hop back into the game and kill someone who just defeated them, before that player has recharged their shields, breaks the combat design. One element is "brought up to date", but it runs smack into the reason Halo worked in the first place.

That's just one example. And in some ways the easiest example. But I think there are a fair number of similar uncomfortable updates, where modernizing Halo is also breaking it, with Halo 4. I think 343 needs to either pull back from the direction they've gone, or go down the path more fully, in order to make it really work.
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I was thinking about this just earlier today. You hit the nail right on the head. Halo has taken gameplay mechanics from other games without a thought to how these mechanics fit into Halo's gameplay. As a result, you get things like in your example, where the base gameplay suffers from additions it's not suited for.
 
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Karl2177

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How the fuck did Starwolf get a tag on his alt, while some people that have been here far longer than him don't even have one on their main account?
 
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