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[stuminus3]

TLC's silence is deafening when it comes to this family, always has been. They absolutely refuse to acknowledge their evils. It's disgusting.

With that being said, even my wife says she's glad she watched the season finale already because she won't be watching it again. She's seen every episode, watches it religiously (pardon the pun). She never believed me that these people are not what the TV portrays them to be until now. So either way it's done for I think.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Cancel this fucking show! These fake ass Christian families with their fucked up issues that they try to hide with this fake clean flaw free lifestyle is so fucking annoying and insulting especially to the viewers who are basically giving this family a paycheck to watch their obnoxious size, and the network who should be digging into the backgrounds of these people in the first place.

That was more of a reaction than I want to even type and I have to serverly restraint myself for the other Vile things I want to say but this is just plain disgusting.

 

[MrPressStart]

Can somebody clarify.... Did he moleste/ touch his own sisters or did this happen to other girls that were visiting the house?

 

[Instro]

Can somebody clarify.... Did he moleste/ touch his own sisters or did this happen to other girls that were visiting the house?

Both.

 

[BertramCooper]

Just as a reminder, here's a horrible anti-LGBT robocall from Michelle Duggar that went out to residents of Fayetteville, Arkansas last year.

https://soundcloud.com/fayetteville...ll-fayetteville-anti-discrimination-ordinance

"Will you speak up for protecting women and children?"

 

[johnny956]

Can somebody clarify.... Did he moleste/ touch his own sisters or did this happen to other girls that were visiting the house?

Both and the parents went to the church instead of the authorities and when they finally went to the authorities it was a family friend who is a state trooper that is now serving a 50+ year sentence for child pornography.

 

[riotous]

Ah okay, thanks for the update. In that case I retract my first statement, but it still feels like rabble-rousing to me. Him being an anti-gay activist, pro-gay activist or anything should, in my opinion, be irrelevant for this specific crime. Anyway, apparently he admitted so that's least of his problems right now.

Ah I see; yeah it's unnecessary to throw in the article title, can't disagree.

But it's not untrue; it's a major aspect of the guy's life. He was the director of an organization who spends a large amount of time fighting against gay rights.

 

[Kuroyume]

Dude needs to go to prison.

 

[Bit-Bit]

Hypocrites, the lot of them.

 

[riotous]

Dude needs to go to prison.

The crimes were committed when he was 14.

I'd say back then he should have been far more severely disciplined; but I'm not sure prison is/was the answer for something like that.

I really do mean "not sure".. as in.. it's possibly what he deserves even now, but the age he was when this went down does give me pause.

The fact his parents let the first incident happen without doing much of anything, waiting until several more of their daughters (or others) had reported more behavior to them.. then bullshitted about sending him to a "Counselling" is more disgusting to me.

They still parent several small children; IMO, they should be getting investigated by child protective services over their admitted inaction in this case. I also wonder why the Police in 2006 just threw their hands up as if they couldn't do anything because the statute of limitations was up.. I see no reference or suggestion that the parents ability to keep their kids safe was questioned, despite them essentially lying during the investigation.

 

[dead souls]

Just as a reminder, here's a horrible anti-LGBT robocall from Michelle Duggar that went out to residents of Fayetteville, Arkansas last year.

https://soundcloud.com/fayetteville...ll-fayetteville-anti-discrimination-ordinance

"Will you speak up for protecting women and children?"

"...because we sure as hell won't."

It's not like we didn't already know these people are creeps, but this story is just gross.

 

[spekkeh]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff, but I don't think it's useful to start the lynching, he may well be very different now. And everything you do as a parent is wrong in such a case. But they of course have no credibility whatsoever of talking about Christian family values being superior.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff, but I don't think it's useful to start the lynching, he may well be very different now. And everything you do as a parent is wrong in such a case. But they of course have no credibility whatsoever of talking about Christian family values being superior.

You know, I think raping five girls and then going on to talk about how LGBT people deserve no rights because they're going to rape children qualifies as more than bad.

 

[BertramCooper]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff, but I don't think it's useful to start the lynching, he may well be very different now. And everything you do as a parent is wrong in such a case. But they of course have no credibility whatsoever of talking about Christian family values being superior.

Up until yesterday he worked for a hate group that routinely paints LGBT people as sexual deviants and predators.

So fuck him.

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

You know, I think raping five girls and then going on to talk about how LGBT people deserve no rights because they're going to rape children qualifies as more than bad.

You must not know what raping means: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rape

 

[TalonJH]

Wow that's crazy. I just listened to that episode of This American Life a couple weeks ago.

Yep, I listened to it last week while mowing the grass. I didn't believe it but I think they kind of won me over that those people really did change. I guess not.

 

[AudioNoir]

http://defamer.gawker.com/mama-june-to-tlc-no-fair-you-support-duggar-molestati-1706257860

The Honey Boo Boo mom is pretty pissed they're not cancelled yet.

 

[BertramCooper]

Pretty disturbing (but not unexpected) that the Duggars' public responses have been almost entirely focused on Josh - how he's gotten counseling and treatment - and very little the sisters who were victimized by him.

Guess it's to be expected, considering their assbackwards misogynistic brand of Christianity.

 

[Link]

Just as a reminder, here's a horrible anti-LGBT robocall from Michelle Duggar that went out to residents of Fayetteville, Arkansas last year.

https://soundcloud.com/fayetteville...ll-fayetteville-anti-discrimination-ordinance

"Will you speak up for protecting women and children?"

I suppose it's asking too much for a journalist to call her out on this.

 

[Culex]

This is not normal behavior and the fact that it went on for so long means it wasn't just "horny innocent teen".

 

[EdibleKnife]

Cancel this fucking show! These fake ass Christian families with their fucked up issues that they try to hide with this fake clean flaw free lifestyle is so fucking annoying and insulting especially to the viewers who are basically giving this family a paycheck to watch their obnoxious size, and the network who should be digging into the backgrounds of these people in the first place.

That was more of a reaction than I want to even type and I have to serverly restraint myself for the other Vile things I want to say but this is just plain disgusting.

It's all up to the viewers because I highly doubt TLC has the scruples to cancel the show for moral reasons. Their entire business plan focuses on essentially exploiting families so if there is still money in exploiting the Duggars even after this news, they'll continue.

Up until yesterday he worked for a hate group that routinely paints LGBT people as sexual deviants and predators.

So fuck him.

Seriously. Even more for the 'pray for me' & 'teen mistakes' rhetoric as though only this is forgivable in God's eyes but being LGBT is the eternal sin that must be cut out of society. What exactly does it take to be considered not good if not painting an entire group of people with the same vile acts you yourself have committed?

 

[NealMcCauley]

People need to start asking the show's advertisers/sponsors to boycott if they want it to be cancelled. Lack of money is a much better (easier?) way to end a show than moral outrage.

 

[Dan]

I can't help but notice that this stuff came out right after TLC seemingly finished airing the show's current season. Like, the finale was apparently Tuesday. That feels like someone at the magazine did TLC a favor.

So what keeps this guy from molesting others/his own kids?

All that counseling they're now pretending he got. And by counseling, I mean that four month internship doing home remodels for their family friend.

 

[dabig2]

Pretty disturbing (but not unexpected) that the Duggars' public responses have been almost entirely focused on Josh - how he's gotten counseling and treatment - and very little the sisters who were victimized by him.

Guess it's to be expected, considering their assbackwards misogynistic brand of Christianity.

Yep, read a statement from anyone in that horrible family and it'll talk all about him conquering his demons, him going on to lead a better life, him being super sorry and needing forgiveness, and so on.

But that's the Christian patriarchy for you. Nothing new.

OTOH, I do feel a little empathy for this asswipe, well, I feel empathy for the teenage version of this asswipe. Dude never had anyone to teach him proper sex education, he was barred from exploring sexuality with outside females of his own age, couldn't even get a wank off on the internet - I mean, his existence probably really sucked. And hence when he started coming of age, this shit happened. Again, this is nothing new, especially when it comes to super religious and controlling families.

So if we want to protect future abuse victims, we should be going at the entire system and emphasizing its existence as to why people like Josh Duggar do shitty things.

 

[J10]

So what keeps this guy from molesting others/his own kids?

God.

 

[Siegcram]

God.

Whose track record is impeccable when it comes to this.

 

[Aiustis]

Statistically speaking, this really isn't surprising.

 

[entremet]

Statistically speaking, this really isn't surprising.

Huge family?

Or due to the anti gay rhetoric?

 

[kitchenmotors]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff, but I don't think it's useful to start the lynching, he may well be very different now. And everything you do as a parent is wrong in such a case. But they of course have no credibility whatsoever of talking about Christian family values being superior.

What the fuck? This has to be one of the most fucked up defense posts I've ever seen on GAF. Sorry but everyone in this situation is a damn mess and the fact that he has been trying to kill any sort of gay rights that affect me directly, I have no sympathy. Screw this family and everyone who defends and supports them.

 

[Black Republican]

Disgusting, he needs to be in jail

 

[Aiustis]

Huge family?

Or due to the anti gay rhetoric?

A combination of huge family and how often girls are molested. It's impossible to you can be a really hands on parent to your children after a certain number and easily keep an eye on what's happening. Especially if they are produced back to back.

 

[Son Of D]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff, but I don't think it's useful to start the lynching, he may well be very different now. And everything you do as a parent is wrong in such a case. But they of course have no credibility whatsoever of talking about Christian family values being superior.

You're an idiot. The fact that you're actually defending this is just sick.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff

So masturbate like the rest of us did.

Good lord...

 

[gofreak]

I find his views repugnant, but...


... taking the claims in isolation, I think it's really difficult. These situations are difficult to deal with, and honestly, I think the Dad went well beyond what others might do. I have a psychiatrist friend who was saying in conversation that 'sexual misadventure' between minors and siblings, both consensual and not, is a lot more common that you might imagine. Whether she would consider it abusive or not, kind of depends on a lot of factors - ages, how many times it happened, what exactly happened etc. Kids can do strange things, and puberty can be a very messed up and confusing time.

I can understand the media or others wanting to make hay of this given his views, but I think it also could be really uncomfortable for others in the family so I'd feel sorry for them.

 

[kirblar]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff, but I don't think it's useful to start the lynching, he may well be very different now. And everything you do as a parent is wrong in such a case. But they of course have no credibility whatsoever of talking about Christian family values being superior.

People don't assault other people because they're horny.

 

[Link]

I find his views repugnant, but...


... taking the claims in isolation, I think it's really difficult. These situations are difficult to deal with, and honestly, I think the Dad went well beyond what others might do. I have a psychiatrist friend who was saying in conversation that 'sexual misadventure' between minors and siblings, both consensual and not, is a lot more common that you might imagine. Whether she would consider it abusive or not, kind of depends on a lot of factors - ages, how many times it happened, what exactly happened etc. Kids can do strange things, and puberty can be a very messed up and confusing time.

I can understand the media or others wanting to make hay of this given his views, but I think it also could be really uncomfortable for others in the family so I'd feel sorry for them.

Yeah, the dad really went above and beyond taking the kid to talk with another child molester and then sending him to fake counseling. Father of the fucking year.

 

[stuminus3]

... taking the claims in isolation, I think it's really difficult. These situations are difficult to deal with, and honestly, I think the Dad went well beyond what others might do. I have a psychiatrist friend who was saying in conversation that 'sexual misadventure' between minors and siblings, both consensual and not, is a lot more common that you might imagine. Whether she would consider it abusive or not, kind of depends on a lot of factors - ages, how many times it happened, what exactly happened etc. Kids can do strange things, and puberty can be a very messed up and confusing time.

None of this matters. He did what he did and then he and his horrible family miseuse their power and influence to try and convince the world that if you're LGBT you're a child predator. His job (that he has now resigned from) was literally to spread hate and bigotry under the false pretense that "God says so".

TLC should get Alice Cooper to replace the Duggars, he's a way better Christian.

 

[gofreak]

Yeah, the dad really went above and beyond taking the kid to talk with another child molester and then sending him to fake counseling. Father of the fucking year.

Well, OK, I didn't know what happened afterward with the police D: But in theory, going to the police would be more than I imagine many would do.

None of this matters. He did what he did and then he and his horrible family miseuse their power and influence to try and convince the world that if you're LGBT you're a child predator. His job (that he has now resigned from) was literally to spread hate and bigotry under the false pretense that "God says so".

Yeah, I know, I get that.

 

[Kittygirl]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff, but I don't think it's useful to start the lynching, he may well be very different now. And everything you do as a parent is wrong in such a case. But they of course have no credibility whatsoever of talking about Christian family values being superior.

I was a horny teenager once, so was my brother, so was my sister.

Guess what?

WE NEVER SEXED UP OR RAPED EACH OTHER!

In addition, we were raised as strict Christians, and sex outside of marriage was wrong. We survived without sexual contact with each other.

 

[Dai101]

So masturbate like the rest of us did.

WHAT!?!? And sin in the eyes of god?

 

[statham]

'19 Kids and Counting'
TLC Yanks Show From TV Schedule

http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/22/tlc-pulls-19-kids-and-counting-josh-duggar-molestation-scandal/

 

[Omega]

Both and the parents went to the church instead of the authorities and when they finally went to the authorities it was a family friend who is a state trooper that is now serving a 50+ year sentence for child pornography.

wow

 

[EdibleKnife]

http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/22/tlc-pulls-19-kids-and-counting-josh-duggar-molestation-scandal/

Well with General Mills out, other advertisers are sure to follow. This show is more than likely done thankfully. TLC should just stop with these shows in general.

 

[spookyfish]

Facing 19 Years and Counting.

I wish.

Molestation/sexual assault is not a "family issue." This ass-hat has just told his four daughters (or children; don't know if it was daughters) that his oldest son is more important than they are.

Both and the parents went to the church instead of the authorities and when they finally went to the authorities it was a family friend who is a state trooper that is now serving a 50+ year sentence for child pornography.

Yeah, there's something more going on in this family, I think. They're saying "mea culpa" to get the heat and investigation off of them.

FYI: I say this as a professing Christian. People ... er, hypocrites like this make me physically ill.

 

[BajiBoxer]

He was a horny teenager who did bad stuff, but I don't think it's useful to start the lynching, he may well be very different now. And everything you do as a parent is wrong in such a case. But they of course have no credibility whatsoever of talking about Christian family values being superior.

Gross. I know most here find all this pretty disgusting, but I'm kind of surprised how many are defending this guy (more than one person). He molested his sisters and their friends then went on to head a hate group.

 

[Jasper]

MIKE HUCKABEE - I'M STANDING BY JOSH DUGGAR...

Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee is coming out swinging for Josh Duggar ... saying he should be forgiven for his sins, because the alleged molestation happened when he was a minor with poor judgment.

The former Arkansas Governor is famously tight with the whole Duggar family, and made it clear ... he's standing by them now that the molestation investigation has come to light. Huckabee says, "Josh’s actions when he was an underage teen are as he described them himself, 'inexcusable,' but that doesn’t mean 'unforgivable.' He and his family dealt with it and were honest and open about it with the victims and the authorities."

Huckabee also believes the 2006 investigation should never have become public. He says the law protects disclosure of many actions by minors because "being a minor means that one's judgment is not mature."

He adds ... Josh has gone on to live a very responsible and Christian life as an adult, and says, "Janet and I want to show up and stand up for our friends."

Huckabee just posted his staunch defense on Facebook -- an incredibly bold move considering he's in the middle of seeking the Republican nomination for president.

The Duggars frequently campaign for Huckabee.

If Josh Duggar had instead molested little boys (including his little brothers), I can GUARANTEE Mike Huckabee would NEVER have come out swinging in Josh Duggar's defense.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Fuck that fuckface Huckabee.

 

[Kinsei]

[/i]

On the bright side Huckabee now has even less of a chance of becoming president.

 

[diffusionx]

Mike Huckabee acquitted a guy who raped one of Bill Clinton's distant relatives. He acquitted him because the rapist because a cause in right wing circles, claiming that the guy was railroaded because of Bill Clinton. The guy then went on to rape and murder another woman.

Huckabee's stance here doesn't surprise me. He doesn't seem to have a lot of sympathy or respect for women or victims of sexual assault.

 

[cameron]

http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/22/tlc-pulls-19-kids-and-counting-josh-duggar-molestation-scandal/

Just officially end it. Why the "not made a long-term decision" nonsense?

Even before the confession, I don't get why TLC had a show with such openly hateful shits.


And Huckabee is a clown.