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Aonuma: Zelda Wii U Trailer Wasnt Just In-Engine, It was Actually Gameplay
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I don't like this type of holier-than-thou attitude
And yet it's gameplay. The two first shots fired is gameplay, you can even notice the animation interpolation as Epona repositions on the bridge. The third shot is scripted but i could even say it's exactly how the two previous shots where fired. I'm sure the new Zelda will have all the subtle animations it is known for and the bow draw&shoot animation was the same in the two previous shots, just not visible from the camera angle.
The trailer ofc wasn't live, uninterrupted and unedited gameplay, so the camera shot the footage of the third shot in slo-mo and then they edited the footage to compile the trailer.
I don't see anything that can't be done in that trailer actually, that's basic stuff.
lo zaffo
Member
Not an expert here, my 2 cents are that it is, and it will not be in-game, I don't think it is in-engine neither, maybe it could be pc-development kit-built prototype showcase trailer of in-engine stuff, as it obvioulsly meant to be to everyone watching.
Aonuma is a nice guy anycase, totally forgiven.
Aonuma is a nice guy anycase, totally forgiven.
Benzychenz
Member
Heh, I just realised it's 2011 all over again. Zelda and Xenoblade are having a rematch for my goty.
Xenoblade won last time.
So you are expecting what we saw to be downgraded when the game releases?
If so i'd like you to show me another WiiU game that Nintendo revealed and was not upgraded by the time it released.
Yeah, Eiji Aonuma, a veteran for like 25 years in the industry, with an illustrious record either blatantly lied twice or is a complete moron not knowing what gameplay really is and made the same mistake twice.
There are not enough crows in the planet, truly.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Is this a real comment
lo zaffo
Member
First I want to affirm I'm a fan of EAD 3 team Zelda, not a problem here.
Fact#1: first Zelda U tease roll will never be in-game. It was a Wii U showcase. I don't expect anyone here to think it will be a component of Zelda U.
Fact#2: an amazing software team like Monolith soft indeed reworked Xenoblade Cross engine for good, I don't expect anyone here to think two years ago tease roll will be a component of Xenoblade Cross.
Expecially after seeing Zelda U tease and trailers and Xenoblade Cross tease and trailers I starded to think that gates are open even on Nintendo side: trailers and release will and can be oranges and apples.
so many commas
also I'd take Aonuma's word against your non-expert speculation. no offense intended.
lo zaffo
Member
First I want to affirm I'm a fan of EAD 3 team Zelda, not a problem here.
Fact#1: first Zelda U tease roll will never be in-game. It was a Wii U showcase. I don't expect anyone here to think it will be a component of Zelda U.
Fact#2: an amazing software team like Monolith soft indeed reworked Xenoblade Cross engine for good, I don't expect anyone here to think two years ago tease roll will be a component of Xenoblade Cross.
Expecially after seeing Zelda U tease and trailers and Xenoblade Cross tease and trailers I starded to think that gates are open even on Nintendo side: trailers and release will and can be oranges and apples.
Like someone had said before, we're talking about a downgrade of a pre-rendered cutscene after ND were forced to support 3D almost right at the end of development. Out of all the Uncharted games, UC3 had the greatest amount of crunch since ND put themselves in a trap announcing a release date of November, about a year later. It killed them.
A little persecution in the afternoon never hurt right?
If you have evidence outside of a pre-rendered cutscene that UC3 suffered this great Watch_Dogs-like downgrade, I'd love to see it since when anybody ever talks about UC3, those same pictures always pop up.
I'm honestly not even sure what the current argument even is at this point. Whether it's "gameplay" or a "cutscene", does anyone think that's not how the final game will look like? I didn't see anything in there that seems beyond the capabilities of the Wii-U.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Let me see.. My two cents say you don't build a prototype for a console game on a PC when you have an actual devkit, that's just doing your work twice. Or are you saying nintendo will do a WiiU + PC multiplat Zelda?
rawbuchanan
Neo Member
But you don't know that. No-one can say anything for certain but Aonuma.
Tech demo Link was so lifeless....
total downgrade. nintendo fans are too in love with games made by miyamoto 20 years ago to at least admit the technology shown doesnt match that the zelda demo shown last year.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
wut
I don't understand....What we saw in the new trailer was much more compelling and impressive technically than the tech demo featuring ONE ROOM
*3 years ago.
I like your style.
Deputy Moonman
Member
I find this game much easier to look forward to since it doesn't revolve around Mario. Honestly, if mario 3d land had been Toad 3d land instead, I would have been a lot more enthusiastic about it. If Nintendo wants to keep rehashing their games, they should at least rotate the protagonists between different nintendo characters.
Xenoblade looks just as good as the reveal, did you not watch the Treehouse gameplay?
I loved the tech demo, but I had in my mind what I wanted if they didnt go with the tech demo graphics and Aonuma pretty much hit it spot on
I wanted something similar to prince of persia 2008 cel shade and not Wind Waker cartoon cel shading
GiantEnemyGoomba
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I think it's more what was shown in the latter part of the trailer that has more people questioning Aonuma, not the visuals. The destructable environments, high tech arrow, and horse jump all kinda call into question whether or not it's all gameplay since those things have never really been a feature in Zelda before.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Joke post?
EDIT: I also wonder how long we're going to have to deal with people complaining about the non existent Xenoblade X graphical downgrade.
Trevelyan9999
Banned
You are right, I expected better and I got it with the 2014 E3 demo.
It's too early to know whether it's a technological downgrade or upgrade. You're looking at two very different Links there, in two very different environments.
Let's wait until we see Link in full uniform and in a dungeon.
But one clear improvement is in the face. The tech demo Link is dead-eyed.
lo zaffo
Member
opps. I didn't. I saw Nintendo Digital webcast event with Xenoblade trailer.
Interceptor
Banned
It is obviously gameplay first transitioning into an in engine cutscene later on. Aonuma just doesn't spend enough time on Internet forums to distinguish these two.
That's where all the confusion originates.
That's where all the confusion originates.
Surely, Nintendo is the Japanese Activision.
Davey Cakes
Member
Is it really a big deal? I still don't understand the obsession with the TP art style as seen in the Wii U tech demo. It looked good but the actual Zelda Wii U also looks good. It's just more stylized and prettier. There are enough games that have more realistic art styles.
The style here is sort of like a culmination of prior ones. It's fresh.
dampflokfreund
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It's not cartoony despite for the character models, its just more colorful.
So you think he is just flat out lying? You know that is basically what you're saying right?
I think the only part of the trailer that looked like gamelplay was the beginning where Link was out in the grass field when the enemy attacks and chases him. The other scenes after that looked too seamlessly cinematic and scripted to be actual gameplay. Perhaps Link using that last arrow could have been a QTE, albeit without the button prompt displayed. It sounds like Aonuma was just referring to the beginning part of the trailer as being actual gameplay even though the entire trailer used the in-game engine just as previous 3D Zelda have done.
OG_Original Gamer
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Yeah, in the case of PC developers who bring their games to consoles. This is much more prevalent in Xbox game development because DirectX API is Microsoft. But, Nintendo devkits and sdk are all you need. Starting on a PC, would mean porting to devkits. A waist of time and money.
The Legend of Zelda Wii U |OT| Home of Punkin' Chunkin' Champion 2015
Nobody got my reference that year T_T
I don't know whether to be more optimistic for this then I was with Skyward Sword (that ended in bitter disappointment, even though I was probably more excited for that Zelda than any other in quite some time), but I will say this: even if the game isn't that great (which is rare for a Zelda game, even the ones that aren't top of the crop), I'd probably enjoy myself just from exploring the vistas. It's so fucking vibrant and attractive and in motion, I love the approach. They finally nailed the cel-shaded style in a more 'adult' Link(?) too. I liked Skyward Sword art direction somewhat, but it was a bit wishy-washy with its approach and inferior to Wind Waker imo. This is just pure visual sex all the way through. Hard to find much to complain about at all.*
*But as I can see above, being hard doesn't mean somebody won't find a way
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Most console devkits are interfaced to PCs, but a console devkit is not a PC. Your other supposition concerns multiplat games where one of the platforms is a PC. This game is a console exclusive, though, and as such it would never be "prototyped" on a PC this far in the dev cycle.
Oh my god, is it 2001 again?
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