Scotty W
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It cannot be said too often: Gamers have a worse than terrible understanding of the games business.
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Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?
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It cannot be said too often: Gamers have a worse than terrible understanding of the games business.
DaGwaphics
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This is true, but it doesn't stop us from hypothesizing and sharing our "can't miss" plans. That's half the fun of a video game forum.
MrFunSocks
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The other half is laughing at how wrong they are.
Remember when the PS Vita TV was going to be an absolute smash hit and sell tens of millions a year? Remember when the Vita was going to kill the 3DS and put nintendo out of business? Some amazing threads were had about those and how they're going to destroy all lol.
Mozza
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I think if Nintendo can make enough consoles, and the New Switch does not hit until 2025, then there is no reason why it can't get pretty close to this, will be interesting to see how the Switch has performed over the holiday period, but guessing it must be at 100 million or so by now.
MrFunSocks
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I think you’re thinking of the PS2. The PS4 will be passed within the next 12 months max. The PS2 is looking likely to be passed in 2024 at this rate.
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ArtHands
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What a joke
Mozza
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Yes I was thinking of the PS2, the PS4's total is pretty much a given at this point.
GodLordPaddock
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No
Mozza
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Or you are hoping it does not get to that figure.
Back in 2001 you had people saying the Gamecube would be Nintendo's last console and no one wants "kiddy" games like Mario and Super Smash Bros. anymore. I also had someone completely flip out on me on a gaming forum back in 2004 because I told them that the original DS was going to be a hit. They called me an "idiot with bad taste" because according to them no one wanted "low quality 3D games and N64 ports" and that 2D gaming is outdated.
For some reason you also have these types of people who think their own personal taste is objective and that everyone else has to (and will) agree with them on anything (or else they're idiots who are going to be wrong).
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Captain Toad
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You say that like even Nintendo expected the Switch to sell 100 million.
ReBurn
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But this is the internet
Mozza
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Well the 3DS and Wii U sold around 90 million units between them, and this was a pretty weak generation, with all the effort they put into the Switch marketing 100 million would have been a minimum for them imho.
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MrFunSocks
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The Wii sold over a hundred million by itself. Do you mean the Wii U?
Mozza
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Yes the Wii U and 3DS, thanks for that will edit my post.
dcmk7
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Comparing XBone sales to SNES? Maybe you don't understand.. but the industry has grown exponentially since those times. Makes any comparison look utterly daft.
Just looking at the above graph Xbox One lost nearly 50% of the install base it had compared to the Xbox 360. That's pretty damning, but you consider that not a 'failure'? Ok then
MrFunSocks
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I take it you consider the PS3 a giant failure too then, right?Comparing XBone sales to SNES? Maybe you don't understand.. but the industry has grown exponentially since those times. Makes any comparison look utterly daft.
Just looking at the above graph Xbox One lost nearly 50% of the install base it had compared to the Xbox 360. That's pretty damning, but you consider that not a 'failure'? Ok then
Mozza
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It has not though, the core market is around 180 million consoles, has been for generations now, if you add the Wii/3DS Wii U/Switch numbers each generation it has increased, but not the same market I am afraid.Comparing XBone sales to SNES? Maybe you don't understand.. but the industry has grown exponentially since those times. Makes any comparison look utterly daft.
Just looking at the above graph Xbox One lost nearly 50% of the install base it had compared to the Xbox 360. That's pretty damning, but you consider that not a 'failure'? Ok then
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dcmk7
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That console was pretty brutal for them.
dcmk7
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I'm a bit confused here.. the market hasn't grown since SNES times? Why would you think that?
buenoblue
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I still feel that compared to the dual system of Wii and Ds which sold 250 mill combined, Nintendo have made a mistake. Even 3ds and wiiu combined sold 90 million which is not that far of switch. Switch has been a success no doubt but compared to that dual home and handheld market Nintendo are missing sales.
Mozza
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No I am saying the core market has not grown since the PS2 generation, and has been around 160 - 180 million consoles every generation, did not see the SNES in your post, as it's a given the market increased from that point in time.
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the Switch alone has beaten the peak profits Nintendo saw with both the wii and ds together. It was definitely not a mistake.
Nintendo breaks video game profit record and beats Wii and DS era
The Switch has helped Nintendo to record the most profit any console maker has ever made in a year, as Animal Crossing sales pass 30 million.
metro.co.uk
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Mozza
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Looks like the Switch has passed the Wii in terms of hardware sales, this needs to be confirmed by Nintendo but after the traditionally strong Holiday period it looks like the big N were able to sell enough to pass the latest milestone, and a new benchmark as the Nintendo Wii was an amazing sales success for Nintendo, and one that looked totally out of reach with their less than stellar performing Wii U console. The Wikipedia best selling consoles list has also been updated where the Switch now sits in sixth position, so who knows how far it will go.
As I said no major sites reporting on this as yet, but it can't be long.
en.wikipedia.org
comicbook.com
As I said no major sites reporting on this as yet, but it can't be long.
List of best-selling game consoles - Wikipedia
Nintendo Switch Reportedly Passes Lifetime Sales of Nintendo Wii
It was bound to happen at some point, but it looks as though the Nintendo Switch has now surpassed [...]
Mozza
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I wondered how long it would take before someone brought up the Wii/DS generation, this was pretty much lightning in a bottle, two new techs in their infancy in the home markets, touch controls on the DS and motion for the Wii, anybody could see the casual nature of these audiences, and those customers were simply not around then the next generation came along with the Wii U and 3DS, and as you said sold 90 million combined.
Also the dedicated handheld market has been in decline, this is due to tablet devices and smart phones, the drop from the DS is stark, as was the Wii To Wii U, hell even Sony realized there was no market for them in the dedicated handheld space after the Vita.
So you have to consider the extra costs of developing two individual consoles, and the fact both will have product revisions at some point, more so on a handheld type device, so Nintendo have not only sold more hardware units than the Wii U and 3DS, they has saved a fortune just developing one system, far from a mistake in my book.
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Mozza
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And The US' Best-Selling Console Of 2021 Was... Nintendo Switch
Another strong year
www.nintendolife.com
Nintendo Switch Was The UK's Bestselling Console In 2021
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe led Switch physical sales, of course
www.nintendolife.com
The Nintendo Switch still bringing home the bacon, and now we just need to wait for some official figures for the current global total, must be over 100 million by now, perhaps even past the PS1.
lachesis
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I was wondering what I wrote back in 2017... lol.
I still feel the same - but the current situation & inflation, almost makes me feel like 299 is a bargain price... Yikes.
Mozza
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I guess the correct price is only ever going to be as much as people are willing to pay, and love it or hate it Nintendo seem to have it pitched perfectly.
ResurrectedContrarian
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To be fair to everyone on the original thread, Breath of the Wild hadn't dropped yet, and few could anticipate what a monumental game it would be. I can scarcely think of any system seller on that level in the past decade, and the additional Wii U version didn't really matter due to its install base.
Mozza
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Switch Outsells Wii And PlayStation, Passes 100 Million Faster Than Any Other Home Console
It prints money!
www.nintendolife.com
So official confirmation from Nintendo's financial report, the Nintendo Switch has now sold 103.54 million consoles worldwide, and has now surpassed both the Wii and original Playstation milestones, an awesome feat by any metric and a great nod towards Nintendo doing things their own unique way.
daclynk
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but Gaf told me it was going to fail hard.Switch Outsells Wii And PlayStation, Passes 100 Million Faster Than Any Other Home Console
It prints money!
So official confirmation from Nintendo's financial report, the Nintendo Switch has now sold 103.54 million consoles worldwide, and has now surpassed both the Wii and original Playstation milestones, an awesome feat by any metric and a great nod towards Nintendo doing things their own unique way.
Mozza
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The core has never been that good at predicting a console that will appeal to a wider market, as they just feel everybody buys things for the same reasons they do, even now some feel the Switch needs a Pro version to stay relevant.
Hero of Spielberg
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I remember watching the e3 announcement and reacting like the lawyer from Jurassic Park when they first see the dinosaurs I.e.‘they’re gonna make a fortune out of this thing’ … then Iread the comments on here and elsewhere and felt like I must be insane
Sean Mirrsen
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Maybe not expected, but...
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/kimi...he-potential-to-reach-wii-like-sales.1340069/
Swift_Star
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First page got it all wrong lmao
Captain Toad
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And the head coach of the Detroit Lions will say they expect to compete for a Super Bowl championship next season. No one thinks he actually believes that.
Mozza
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But still did not get the dead on arrival comments, as even with the Wii U and 3DS generation Nintendo sold around 89 million consoles, so if you consider Nintendo were combining both their markets you had to expect around this amount, hell even a Pokemon game is bound to get you around 25 million sales.
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Luminoth-4545
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Ozrimandias
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Oh this is fun. (Reading the first page comments)
Neogaf predictions SUCKS big time. (again lol)
Neogaf predictions SUCKS big time. (again lol)
TheFinalDX
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There's wrong, and then there's dead wrong
Happy 5th Anniversary, Switch!
Happy 5th Anniversary, Switch!
Deerock71
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Well there's what he said...and endless speculation about what he was thinking when he said it. Personally, I think he was thinking about whether or not he wanted wasabi on his spring rolls for lunch, or if that was too heavy for that time of day.
Daniel Thomas MacInnes
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Just imagine where Nintendo Switch sales would be if they were able to manufacture enough to go around. It's amazing that they're still so hard to find on store shelves after all this time.
Tiago Rodrigues
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holy shit that first page!
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
that first page aged poorly lmao
Mozza
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Switch hits 107.6m as Nintendo claims its ‘highest annual software sales ever’ | VGC
Kirby clears 2.1m in 2 weeks, Pokémon Legends sold 12.64m and Metroid Dread managed 2.9…
www.videogameschronicle.com
The latest financial report is in and the Switch is at 107 million consoles sold, Nintendo do expect a slight decline this year due to production issues, but are still predicting 20 million more consoles in the current financial year.
Luminoth-4545
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After 5 full years on the market Switch is still going strong. In it's 5th full year it sold 23.06 million. Nintendo Projects another 21 million this year. Switch it seems will have much strongers legs than any other Nintendo console.
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