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[Ozigizo]

Thanks I'll check this out.

It seem that many of the more popular videos on this subject seem to be very pro-GG (I only watched 1 or 2 and then part of 1 that is almost 2 hours long - I was at first trying to understand what being "pro GG" even meant), Some of the stuff directly referenced in those videos is being refuted here and as I watched some of them I was just confused on why these people would make an 2 hour long videos on this subject where the only evidence they provide are just random posts or screengrabs that we are supposed to take at face value.

Yeah, sure. Get back to us with the results of your research. I'm sure we'll all be shocked.

 

[Shauni]

Tell me more.

I don't remember the details, but the originally founder of Vice is pretty racist. Worth noting that he's no longer with the company anymore and it's evolved a lot into one of the more left-leaning publications on the web, even if this shows there's obviously issues within it still

 

[Box of Kittens]

Auerbach playing the victim about supposedly being bullied and harassed on Twitter is about as hypocritical as it gets.

 

[Ozigizo]

I don't remember the details, but the originally founder of Vice is pretty racist. Worth noting that he's no longer with the company anymore and it's evolved a lot into one of the more left-leaning publications on the web, even if this shows there's obviously issues within it still

Yes, he went on to found the Proud Boys, who really hate anyone who isn't a white male.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Tell me more.

The Intercept: After Charlottesville, The American Far Right Is Tearing Itself Apart

The Proud Boys, a drinking club of male, far-right street brawlers, who purport to defend “Western values,” are routinely associated with the “alt-right.” But the group’s leader, Gavin McInnes, who helped launch Vice Media in 1994 and now runs a right-wing YouTube talk show, has in fact rejected the term for some time, preferring the milder-sounding “alt-light.” McInnes’s insistence that the Proud Boys have nothing to do with the “alt-right” grew even more adamant after the violence in Charlottesville. Last month, in a blog post titled “WE ARE NOT ALT-RIGHT,” he alerted his group that “alt-right” members planned to “infiltrate” Proud Boys meetings and “sabotage” them. Then, McInnes’s attorney threatened to sue The Intercept over a short documentary film I directed, which included about 17 seconds of footage drawn from McInnes’s YouTube shows. His lawyer, Jason Van Dyke, claimed that the film’s “obvious insinuation” is that McInnes is “a white nationalist, a white supremacist, or alt-right,” whereas in reality, McInnes “has no affiliation with the alt-right whatsoever.”

Messofanego's Post from this topic

People even here fall for the diversion tactics about focusing on antifa which is a strategy by fascists to shift news topics away from them.

I'm sure we've come across people here on GAF who have said this exact pedantry thing from the video indicating their denial of current Nazis:

"The German National Socialist Party hasn't existed since 1945."

Or they'll be adamant about calling them neo-nazis, not nazis. It's a cute diversion tactic but thankfully no one falls for it.

On secret symbols used because they have multiple meanings, it can fool GAFers like the Iron Cross:





Most recently, some were tripping themselves over not knowing that Proud Boys ("Western chauvinists", there's that coded language again) in the Texas floods are a Nazi movement founded by Canadian Gavin McInnes (Rebel Media, former Vice co-founder), and they employ the OK symbol.

People can be fooled into being fearful of antifa, so they suddenly care really deeply about inanimate property and "looters" of supplies, so that fear plays into fascists arming themselves and wanting to stop looting in floods.

https://twitter.com/afainatl/status/903309366601895936
Proud Boys: "anti looting patrol" and the OK symbol

The Proud Boys (who also most recently were at an Indigenous protest) wear Fred Perry polo t-shirts, which were then disavowed by the company for the racist connection.

More dirt on Gavin McInnes:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/alt-right-star-says-israelis-have-whiny-paranoid-fear-of-nazis/
Gavin McInnes on his trip to Israel: "...that assume we’re going to listen to all this shit we get fed. That’s having the reverse effect on me: I’m becoming anti-Semitic...And I felt myself defending the super-far-right Nazis, just because I was sick of so much brainwashing. And I felt like going, ‘Well, they never said it didn’t happen. What they’re saying is that it was much less than six million and that they starved to death and they weren’t gassed.' I’m not saying it wasn’t gassing. Please don’t take that clip out of context, but that’s what the far-right nuts are saying....There’s been a lot of genocides. Mao killed 70 million… Stalin, with the Bolsheviks, killed 30 million. But the Russians don’t talk about that. They don’t even necessarily see it as a horrible thing. I think it was ten million Ukrainians who were killed. That was by Jews. That was by Marxist, Stalinist, left-wing, commie, socialist Jews...Wasn’t the Treaty of Versailles, wasn’t that disproportionately influenced by Jewish intellectuals?...Don't get me wrong, I’m not pro-Holocaust.”

Of course, since Gavin likes to be employed and earn money, he's had to backtrack his statements about defending Nazis among other things.

He hasn't backtracked on his connection with Proud Boys, though. I wonder if there are people here who are fans of Rebel Media/Gavin.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Isn’t there a pic of this dumbass with a iron cross? Seemed like the dude was always open about being a nazi piece of shit.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Well I just caught up.

 

[Ozigizo]

Isn’t there a pic of this dumbass with a iron cross? Seemed like the dude was always open about being a nazi piece of shit.

Yes

 

[Fuchsdh]

As an aside, while they still produce a lot of clickbait trash, I'm glad Buzzfeed is pursuing and supporting solid investigative reporting like this. I'm willing to forgive their dumb home craft hack videos and Disney lists if we get more like this.

 

[andymcc]

Damn, right wingers sure know how to project internal strife right down to the colluding journalists.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Isn't there a pic of this dumbass with a iron cross? Seemed like the dude was always open about being a nazi piece of shit.

Yes he did.

But first, a little context. Milo Yiannopoulos (birth name: Milo Hanrahan) is a 32-year-old British provocateur and college dropout. Online, he flirted with neo-Nazism, going by the handle ”Milo Andreas Wagner," donning a Nazi iron cross necklace and posing with Hitler tomes, before making a name for himself as a contrarian voice in the #Gamergate controversy and popular voice of the ”alt-right"—the trendy moniker for white nationalism.

The Daily Beast: Bill Maher Upstaged By Milo Yiannopoulos on 'Real Time'

 

[UrbanDandy]

I don't remember the details, but the originally founder of Vice is pretty racist. Worth noting that he's no longer with the company anymore and it's evolved a lot into one of the more left-leaning publications on the web, even if this shows there's obviously issues within it still

At first, I thought you were talking about Shane Smith, but then I realized you were talking about Gavin McInnes.

He and his "group" are something else.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...222-story.html

And the ugly irony is that when the Nazis rejected American law, it was often because they found it too harsh. For example, Nazi observers shuddered at the "human hardness" of the “one drop” rule, which classified people "of predominantly white appearance" as blacks. To them, American racism was sometimes simply too inhumane.

Yep.

Wowwwww

 

[smokeandmirrors]

post this to the gaming side. we could probably do with a flushing out of the garbage accounts again. haha

fuck milo and fuck anyone who thought it was okay to even begin to defend him under the guise of 'free speech'.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Wowwwww

Don't kneel during the anthem, tho.

 

[Oersted]

I guess America is the successor to Nazi Germany.

America was the predecessor to Nazi Germany

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-whitman-hitler-american-race-laws-20170222-story.html
Yep.

Aren't reruns just lovely?

 

[Nasbin]

I just want to say fuck Bill Maher one more time for defending that piece of shit Milo.

And fuck gaming for allowing GG to fester into this horrible cancer. Shame on all of us for not doing more to stop it.

 

[Toparaman]

I didn't find anything revelatory in this long piece, but I guess it opened some eyes.

 

[theignoramus]

If Milo hadnt derailed his career with his support for underaged sex, he was really the perfect weapon for the White supremacy movement.

Articulate, witty, flamboyant but just as importantly, gay, Jewish and involved in interracial relationships. He was even more of a weapon than their all-star Ben Shapiro, who comes across as a robotic dork in real life.

 

[Buckle]

If Milo hadnt derailed his career with his support for underaged sex, he was really the perfect weapon for the White supremacy movement.

Articulate, witty, flamboyant but just as importantly, gay, Jewish and involved in interracial relationships. He was even more of a weapon than their all-star Ben Shapiro, who comes across as a robotic dork in real life.

Didn't he attempt some sort of comeback a few months ago that failed miserably/hilariously?

 

[Enzom21]

If Milo hadnt derailed his career with his support for underaged sex, he was really the perfect weapon for the White supremacy movement.

Articulate, witty, flamboyant but just as importantly, gay, Jewish and involved in interracial relationships. He was even more of a weapon than their all-star Ben Shapiro, who comes across as a robotic dork in real life.

Don't forget that piece of shit Maher wants to "rescue" him.

Now Maher says that he'd like to help rescue Yiannopoulos from his tumble out of the spotlight. "I actually want to have him back," Maher told me. "I don't think he would be that hard to bring around to a much more reasonable position." (Yiannopoulos says another appearance is in the works.)

 

[Buckle]

Don't forget that piece of shit Maher wants to "rescue" him.

"I don't think he would be that hard to bring around to a much more reasonable position."

Yeah, Bill. Like you've done so well with Ann Coulter.

He doesn't give a shit about what Milo thinks or changing him. He just likes shooting the shit with other smug assholes.

 

[pigeon]

Yeah, like Bill has done so well with Ann Coulter.

He doesn't give a shit about what Milo thinks. He just likes surrounding himself with other smug assholes.

I mean, maybe Bill Maher is just fine with white supremacists and that's why he keeps inviting them on his show.

 

[Buckle]

I mean, maybe Bill Maher is just fine with white supremacists and that's why he keeps inviting them on his show.

I wouldn't doubt it.

The fact that he's willing to get so chummy with them time and again doesn't paint him in a positive light.

 

[Sanojio]

Ive realized that the depth of white supremacy in the USA is so entrenched, whether whites are the majority or the inevitable minority due to changing demographics that it’s never, ever going to die or be relegated to insignificance. It’s been going on for centuries and I honestly don’t know what to do anymore.

 

[KaoteK]

This is a really great article.

I'll comment more when I'm done reading it, but in the meantime;

Thank you OP.

 

[Dude Abides]

As an aside, while they still produce a lot of clickbait trash, I'm glad Buzzfeed is pursuing and supporting solid investigative reporting like this. I'm willing to forgive their dumb home craft hack videos and Disney lists if we get more like this.

That's buzzfeed's model. The clickbait garbage funds the occasional piece of really good journalism.

 

[pigeon]

Ive realized that the depth of white supremacy in the USA is so entrenched, whether whites are the majority or the inevitable minority due to changing demographics that it’s never, ever going to die or be relegated to insignificance. It’s been going on for centuries and I honestly don’t know what to do anymore.

Step one is to find the white supremacists in your friends and family and ostracize and shun them.

White supremacy survives in great part because of the willingness of white moderates, and timid, upwardly-mobile people of color, to tolerate and downplay it.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Ive realized that the depth of white supremacy in the USA is so entrenched, whether whites are the majority or the inevitable minority due to changing demographics that it's never, ever going to die or be relegated to insignificance. It's been going on for centuries and I honestly don't know what to do anymore.

I mean the solution as much as it is is as simple as making sure empathetic people are continually put in/kept in power and people with white supremacists ideals have to pay for them. Not through death or arrest but there's a reason I personally am fine with people who say racist shit or participate in Nazi rallies getting fired from their job. There's a reason why I'm cool with those same people becoming pariahs and black sheep in their communities and families. There's a reason I'm cool with reinstating things like the Fairness Doctrine so that it becomes actively detrimental for people who bill themselves a news source to lie. White supremacy will never go away but there are ways to keep cancers from becoming malignant. America, particularly white America, needs an acknowledgment of its history and a level of hyperawareness and diligence that I think is possible to keep white supremacy relegated to the backwoods rather than invading every single section of a society that likes to think of itself as modern and fair.

 

[Dan-o]

One thing I noticed while reading this was that Buzzfeed isn't fucking around with, "according to the emails, Person X allegedly..." kind of stuff.
They're so confident in the facts here, as are their lawyers, that they don't have to use that kind of terminology, usually forced upon them by the lawyers before a piece like this goes live.
I love it. Fuck the Nazi scum.

So who leaked the emails? Had to be Allum, yes?

 

[B-Dubs]

I wouldn't doubt it.

The fact that he's willing to get so chummy with them time and again doesn't paint him in a positive light.

It's not just being chummy, he's on the record as wanting to make Milo a star.

 

[Twig and Berries]

I just want to say fuck Bill Maher one more time for defending that piece of shit Milo.

And fuck gaming for allowing GG to fester into this horrible cancer. Shame on all of us for not doing more to stop it.

The problem is effective online negative reinforcement that doesn't devolve into mob justice is really friggin difficult. Industry leaders meanwhile did fuck all to stymie GG because *SURPRISE!* sexism has always been rampant in game development and game journalism.

 

[Electric Eye]

That's buzzfeed's model. The clickbait garbage funds the occasional piece of really good journalism.

So its like recycling cans and bottles to buy a really good book? I'll buy it, but yeah all these connections its goddamn real life hydra holy shit.

 

[Fancyarcher]

I wish I was surprised by this shit, but I'm not. Nazis and white supremacist will never stop being horrible.

 

[zsynqx]

One thing I noticed while reading this was that Buzzfeed isn't fucking around with, "according to the emails, Person X allegedly..." kind of stuff.
They're so confident in the facts here, as are their lawyers, that they don't have to use that kind of terminology, usually forced upon them by the lawyers before a piece like this goes live.
I love it. Fuck the Nazi scum.

The most telling part is that MIlo hasn't denied any of it.

 

[clarknova156]

Not even once did I entertain this clowns notions of anything he said being true. Not surprised in the least. I really hope he dies alone and scared as he is an absolute failure as a human being.

 

[XMonkey]

Incredible stuff from Buzzfeed. Bravo.

 

[TickleMeElbow]

Damn they went deep.

 

[IrishNinja]

bill maher's prolly planning dude's comeback debut as we speak

Tell me more.

I don't remember the details, but the originally founder of Vice is pretty racist. Worth noting that he's no longer with the company anymore and it's evolved a lot into one of the more left-leaning publications on the web, even if this shows there's obviously issues within it still

The Intercept: After Charlottesville, The American Far Right Is Tearing Itself Apart

Messofanego's Post from this topic

yup, these are the receipts - there's so very many on gavin & his "proud (fuck) boys" squad. i understand he isnt vice, but you can see my sentiment on the apple not falling far in this instance

Don't kneel during the anthem, tho.

well yeah, i mean you can fly actual nazi flags & those of our own country's traitors, but at least respect the flag guy

 

[Nokterian]

Remember that piece in the winter soldier how hydra infiltrated in Shield? And we see it again for real this time. Fantastic journalism from buzzfeed, exposing these scum as it should.

 

[jellies_two]

Damn they went deep.

It sounds like they got a lucky break with milos email account and downloaded the whole thing. What a goldmine.

 

[Mask]

People need to slam Milo more for being a disgusting pedophile-sympathiser more often tbh, and Maher needs to fuck off and leave him to rot in the gutter where he belongs.

Doesn't surprise me in the least that he's a goddamn nazi scumbag though, it was pretty clear before that he was an opportunist nobody with nazi views, but this just makes it undeniable. Not that his little fanboys will listen, but fuck them.

 

[iapetus]

Because they're being exposed and are desperate

No. Because they know their supporters will jump to believe the denial and dismiss the rebuttal.

 

[Baron Doggystyle von Woof]

I hate how normalized this is getting is some parts of the population.

 

[slider]

As trite as it sounds, I can only think to say: Wake up, sheeple.

Fucking outrageous. This is the real "deep state".

 

[Condom]

The next time someone tries to argue that these alt right politicians and commentators are not proto-fascists I might go insane.

Liberals all over the world should wake up and do what the socialists has been doing all this time: Stop these people in their activities. Hopefully work like this article will convince the majority. We can beat them together.

 

[Messofanego]

HBO's Silicon Valley had this trash Dan Lyons guy on it? Yikes. Hope he was kicked out from that show.

Dan Lyons, the veteran tech reporter and editor who also worked for nearly two years on HBO’s Silicon Valley, emailed Yiannopoulos (“you little troublemaker”) periodically to wonder about the birth sex of Zoë Quinn, another GamerGate target, and Amber Discko, the founder of the feminist website Femsplain, and to suggest a story about the public treatment of the venture capitalist Joe Lonsdale, who had been accused of sexual assault in a lawsuit that the plaintiff eventually dropped.

 

[NumberThree]

HBO's Silicon Valley had this trash Dan Lyons guy on it? Yikes. Hope he was kicked out from that show.

He also proceeded to lie about apologizing to Zoe

 

[Ekai]

The most disturbing part about this is the various "liberal" people who are secretly shilling for Milo and friends. All of these fuckers need to be named, shamed, and fired.

Drag all of those centrist swine.

 

[HarryHengst]

Why did America demonize Comunism but not Nazism? I guess racism really runs deep

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.