Doesn't mean he's not racist.
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Conor Mcgregor mentions Rocky III "dancing monkeys"; says meant circus-like celeb gym
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Thornton Reed
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Yeah i know, i think he just uses that term all the time. The fact he mentioned celebrity gym and dancing monkeys is making me think he is referencing the other scene in the film,not Apollo's gym.
i do think the dance for me "boy" line is incredibly racist and you would have to be ignorant as fuck not to know that
So we're back to both sides?
Did I just read somebody getting called "retarded"? Online in 2017?
Hell, if this is a work or not, is not as relevant as holding people accountable for the shitty things they say.
If it doesn't offend YOU, doesn't mean it ISN'T offensive. It doesn't give people the right to just say what they want and pretend they meant something else.
If you're a Conor fan, you can still be disappointed with his stupidity, but don't try to justify or explain his actions to people who got offended. Same if Mayweather does something shitty, its fair game. Do you want to be on the side of the argument with the racist/DV abuser shitheads? We're better than that here.
Did I just read somebody getting called "retarded"? Online in 2017?
Hell, if this is a work or not, is not as relevant as holding people accountable for the shitty things they say.
If it doesn't offend YOU, doesn't mean it ISN'T offensive. It doesn't give people the right to just say what they want and pretend they meant something else.
If you're a Conor fan, you can still be disappointed with his stupidity, but don't try to justify or explain his actions to people who got offended. Same if Mayweather does something shitty, its fair game. Do you want to be on the side of the argument with the racist/DV abuser shitheads? We're better than that here.
Bits N Pieces
Member
No black people although Tamoor is Pakistani but its usually just a bit of banter between around 4 or 5 of us.
I had it in my head that this is where that term came from
Honestly had no idea that it could be taken as a racist remark. Might this be a difference in colloquialism of UK and Amercian English?
Agent Gibbs
Member
He said what now? oh Christ McGreggor you were a rags to riches hero and now it seems you should have stayed in the gutter where you belong
Gravy Boat
Member
I'm not sure if I would associate the phrase 'Dancing Monkey' with racism. I've referred to my (white) self as a dancing monkey on a few occasions for jokes.
Person: 'Do this for me'
Me: 'No, I am not your dancing monkey!'
To me it's just a phrase to describe someone who will do anything you ask. I don't think it's racist just because it this instance it was directed at black people. I'm sure plenty will disagree though.
FWIW I've never watched a single MMA or boxing match in my entire life so I really don't care who is or isn't racist, and I'm not picking sides. Just giving my thoughts on the phrase itself.
Person: 'Do this for me'
Me: 'No, I am not your dancing monkey!'
To me it's just a phrase to describe someone who will do anything you ask. I don't think it's racist just because it this instance it was directed at black people. I'm sure plenty will disagree though.
FWIW I've never watched a single MMA or boxing match in my entire life so I really don't care who is or isn't racist, and I'm not picking sides. Just giving my thoughts on the phrase itself.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Oh I know that, as a Rangers fan I remember seeing Mark Walters being pelted with dozens of bananas at Parkhead when we played Celtic back in the late 80's.
I honestly didnt feel that term "dance monkey dance" was the same though.
I just googled it and this is what came up from Wiki
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah it's a shame because it's a word i love to use for insulting a bunch of people.
The word is hijacked by racists.
Yeh, it's a phrase I've used before in the exact same context as you.
However, if I was referring to a person of colour I'm pretty certain my brain would block the words before they happened because I'm aware of the connotations involved.
But then I'm also aware that people can make a slip.
However, the word "monkey" is something Connor has used repeatedly despite him fully understanding the connotations. So I'm less inclined to believe he isn't aware, or that this is a slip, or that it isn't intentional in some way.
Even if it is just for the pre-fight banter, it's still shitty if he knows what he's doing.
Gravy Boat
Member
Like I said, I don't follow this stuff at all so if the bolded is true then maybe he is just a big racist. But I don't think this particular phrase is racist and I do think it's possible he just used it in the correct context, and in this occasion because the subjects happened to be black people are taking it as a racist comment when it isn't.
And most people wouldn't use the term "monkey" to describe a black person in any way because the connotations are obvious and Connor hasn't had his head pounded to the point he's stupid enough to miss that.
Jezus christ this thread is fucking dumb.
You guys are seriously trying to argue that him referring to black people as monkeys isn't racist? I get that you like the guy and he is pretty funny but come on.
Whether he's a racist or not, who cares. What he said is racist end of.
These are literally a bunch of uneducated savages on both ends so who the hell cares if either one of them is racist or not.
Just watch or don't watch and stop moaning about every little thing.
You guys are seriously trying to argue that him referring to black people as monkeys isn't racist? I get that you like the guy and he is pretty funny but come on.
Whether he's a racist or not, who cares. What he said is racist end of.
These are literally a bunch of uneducated savages on both ends so who the hell cares if either one of them is racist or not.
Just watch or don't watch and stop moaning about every little thing.
Deuce Deuce
Member
It's like getting upset over something in a soap opera.
More like calling out a reality TV star if being openly racist on a show, this isn't fiction
ResidentWeevil13
Member
This whole circus is embrassing. Is this a WWE fight? Is Mcgregor playing the heel?
Officerrob
Banned
Ahh yes, lets rally being the humble Floyd Mayweather. Stop it people, Conor said some stupid racist shit here, as has Floyd in the past. Then you have Floyd's history of battering women. Cheer for who you want, but stop pretending like there is some moral high ground between these two carny fucks.
That means the beating should be even more pleasing. I more curious to see if he gets frustrated in the ring. This is WWE or whatever it is called now.
Deuce Deuce
Member
To be honest, reality TV is quite obviously hyped pseudo-realism as well.
Monkey is still an insult today hell
Anyways, this is some Carny type shit, I wanna see Floyd throw potatoes at him or some shit
Let's go
RockTurtle
Member
What is mayweathers problem with asians anyways? He was shitting on jeremy lin for no reason too
Epsilon-delta
Banned
While dressed as a leprechaun.
Ryo Hazuki
Member
Deuce Deuce
Member
Haha now we're talking! There's plenty of material for Mayweather to work with if he wants to take the low road.
lol
QuantumZebra
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
"I like black people, I mean I have black co-workers, one of them is gay in-fact and I make him coffee all the time! My favourite restaurant has a black waitress and there was this black kid at school who had the best Pokemon card collection and I once hung out with him for 15 minutes while none of the other kids were around and he seemed pretty ok to me...
but..."
Dick Jones
Gold Member
Some of you in this thread are pathetic. Ye denounce Conor McGregor for racist shit and at the same time take potshots at the Irish in general with comments about throwing potatoes at an Irishman and dressing up like a leprechaun. Ye are just as bad as him, ye are disgusting racist scum.
They're being ironic, silly.
That's the difference?
I thought it was not hating people of other races, silly me.
That KKK member with the wellspoken manner surely won't be a racist.
Skellig Gra
Member
He's just an asshole. He has a problem with everyone but him.
Don't be so literal about the words chosen and you might get my point.
thesoapster
Member
Anderson Silva is legitimately my favorite fighter to watch.
Both have mostly aged out, I think.
Audioboxer
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The irony being we're related to a common ancestor of chimps no matter your skin colour
But then again, science isn't "funny" and sadly we live in a world where millions upon millions still deny evolution.
The problem here isn't what's scientific or true, it's a long history of weaponized slander/insult. You often tend to find high testosterone males who make a living out of beating the shit out of each other do not turn around and be absolute sweethearts. Many either get caught on camera saying stupid/offensive shit, or they end up being wife beaters or assholes outside of the sport...
Doubt you'll even see an apology for this!
But then again, science isn't "funny" and sadly we live in a world where millions upon millions still deny evolution.
The problem here isn't what's scientific or true, it's a long history of weaponized slander/insult. You often tend to find high testosterone males who make a living out of beating the shit out of each other do not turn around and be absolute sweethearts. Many either get caught on camera saying stupid/offensive shit, or they end up being wife beaters or assholes outside of the sport...
Doubt you'll even see an apology for this!
Gipsy Danger
Member
Yeah, thank God that doesn't happen anymore
People are still racist assholes. And fuck Conor for this.
Yes obviously, but it's not fiction so they aren't playing written characters. Being racist is being racist
Skellig Gra
Member
Silva did the commentary for the Brasilians on Ultimate Beastmaster.
Are the Irish a race?
Anyways, hey if one person is gonna go low talkin down bout black people, why not go full carny WWE type shit and just use any and every Irish stereotype
Skellig Gra
Member
The problem we are running in to is that guys from Ireland are in this thread defending Conor because he is making them look bad. In reality your average Irishman isn't very racist at all so they don't want to be painted with the same brush. Understandable but they are working against their own interests.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
This post should be addressed
He is clearly using the term "monkey" as people who work in a service capacity. After hearing this, I gotta say it sounds like a non issue. I am open to being wrong but calling somebody a racist to too strong a term for any doubt, however thin it may be, to go unaddressed.
The word is fucking loaded despite his intentions.
He knows this, yet he chose to use it anyway.
There's still an argument to be made even if he was using it the way you describe.
Deuce Deuce
Member
You must admit on the offensive-o-meter, the leprechaun is far below a monkey. No?
Psychoward
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Epsilon-delta
Banned
Conor knew what he was doing when he made those comments.