Yes, yes I do.Ah, don't you miss when videogames was a more niche hobby and not nearly as mainstream and lowest common denominator-y as it is now?
Good times.
Pretty soon they will probably add trigger warnings before you watch it on Disney+.I've a theory that Disney is slowly trying to memory hole WALL-E and if you look closely, you will see it being erased from public consciousness.
Yep. The only way people should be confronting fat people is if it comes from someone they know cares about them and isnt presenting it in a malicious fashion. People on the street or work colleages calling people fat is just an excuse to bully.To be fair the bolded is a LIE! Most people see fatties, but don't say anything because that's just rude man. What kind of A-Hole tells people that they are fat?
Oh shit I would watch gender swapped 300 day one first in lineThe new 300 movie is shaping up rather nicely.
Mcana-Christ
Being thin = sexualized
Say what??
Are you some anti Male Gaze freak?
Sure man. I’ll be whatever you want me to be because I said words you don’t agree with. Whatever you think I am, that’s what I am.You sound like someone who crys tears of shame after masturbation.
Men and women dont look at same things, we as guys are attracted to youth and beauty, women on avg are attracted to wealth and power(aka certain security for them and their offspring) and the looks are just a welcome bonus, ofc on avg so cant 100% generalise it, but thats how it isSo....when are hot women going to start accepting overweight men?
Listen I definitely felt a good amount of cringe when I saw some of the late 90s early 2000s gaming ads and how imature whey are as well as stuff like DOA Volleyball. Also some of the current releases from japan can still have that effecf but whats happening here is a massive, dangerous and completely self serving overcorrection.Sure man. I’ll be whatever you want me to be because I said words you don’t agree with. Whatever you think I am, that’s what I am.
I agree with most of what you said, but as for these companies taking stances like this. The market has a way of correcting itself and if the like to dislike ratio of the YouTube video is any indication, the public has spoken, and if Dove is remotely aware they will change course moving forward. In the end the only thing they care about is making money and if this ad doesn’t get them there it’s unlikely they’ll continue.Listen I definitely felt a good amount of cringe when I saw some of the late 90s early 2000s gaming ads and how imature whey are as well as stuff like DOA Volleyball. Also some of the current releases from japan can still have that effecf but whats happening here is a massive, dangerous and completely self serving overcorrection.
99% of the population plays games for escape not for representation. Companies cant help themselves salivating at the chance they can get us to rap or personal idenities into the characters they lease us. Its completly dystopian at this point.
I share some of your cringe I just dont think this is an appropriate thread to air it considering how ridiculas this ad is.
I hope your right and I think your being logical about this but I think logic with these companies died out awhile ago and all that matters now is pushing there ideologies. Religeon matters way more than money these days. Although I would agree its never been that way in the past but existensial dread caused by endless future shock which is only getting worse as we move closer and closer towards singlarity has pushed everyone into taking refuge into some ideological cult blanket of one type or another. It will probably come to an end eventually but after how much harm? These companies are not connected to reality at all anymore.I agree with most of what you said, but as for these companies taking stances like this. The market has a way of correcting itself and if the like to dislike ratio of the YouTube video is any indication, the public has spoken, and if Dove is remotely aware they will change course moving forward. In the end the only thing they care about is making money and if this ad doesn’t get them there it’s unlikely they’ll continue.
Dead.gifIf He-man was created in modern times his name would be He/Man.
I think it’s social media to be perfectly honest. They want to run ads that resonate with people and drive up their engagement, so they get likes and retweets and whatever else they need so they have a presence in online spaces — but the only reality that matters in the end is wether or not they are making money, and how these ads affect sales, because Dove could have all the e-clout they can handle but if stuff like this hurts their sales they’ll 180 and act like they never said shit about it.I hope you’re right and I think you’re being logical about this but I think logic with these companies died out awhile ago and all that matters now is pushing there ideologies. Religeon matters way more than money these days. Although I would agree its never been that way in the past but existensial dread caused by endless future shock which is only getting worse as we move closer and closer towards singlarity has pushed everyone into taking refuge into some ideological cult blanket of one type or another. It will probably come to an end eventually but after how much harm? These companies are not connected to reality at all anymore.
No quite the opposite. My mom used to store tens of boxes of Dove products in our garage when I was young and for obvious reasons we used dove alot.Yeah, shit on them all you want, but you have to admit that their soap products and body lotions are top notch.
Overweight men = fat unclean losersSo....when are hot women going to start accepting overweight men?
Back in the 80's/90's if there was even a hint you played, urgh, 'computer games' you were branded a nerd or a 'geek'Ah, don't you miss when videogames was a more niche hobby and not nearly as mainstream and lowest common denominator-y as it is now?
Good times.
The shear level of organization of it to the point in forcing companies to comply via social media, ownership of most large brands, and enforcment via ESG scores changing...(cough.. cough Rigging)...the playing field is most certainly new.This really is nothing new.
Western Devs do not "want" to play as fat people.Or the easiest solution is let devs design their characters however they want, if western devs want design their characters fat & ugly then let them and Japanese devs wants design their characters good looking & sexy then they also should be free to do so.
If devs lose the freedom to make what they want to make then this industry is really fucked.
Sexualization = I feel insecure and instead of changing my own perceptions through hard work id rather demand the entire world change its nature.Daily reminder that "sexualization" doesn't mean shit.
Funnily enough, when Marvel did flip this in Avengers End Game, with a badly out-of-shape Thor, a lot of men I know said they really didn't like it. And these are guys who were being - how shall I put it? - more fairly represented by Endgame Thor than they ever were by the previous God-bod Thor.
I never thought about this. You're right, fuck dove™!No quite the opposite. My mom used to store tens of boxes of Dove products in our garage when I was young and for obvious reasons we used dove alot.
There whole 1/4 moisturizer they put in there bars fucking stinks. And because it absorbs into your skin no amount of water can wash it away. Thinking about it right now is making me feel queazy.
They don’t care about representation. They see their consumers as meat. Simple as that. Bigger meat bigger consumption.So their implication is that "representing" women means showing women who are out of shape. Because obviously, women aren't capable of taking care of themselves. That's crazy misogynistic.
Blizzard kinda already did with the Druid in Diablo 4, lol.Oy, girl be seriously thicc, Dove going for that thirsty audience.
So when can we expect progressive developers to make a default character like the one described in the video?
Guys didnt? I thought it was hilarious and it was mostly women dripping on Hemsworth who didnt like it.Funnily enough, when Marvel did flip this in Avengers End Game, with a badly out-of-shape Thor, a lot of men I know said they really didn't like it. And these are guys who were being - how shall I put it? - more fairly represented by Endgame Thor than they ever were by the previous God-bod Thor.
It was a really interesting moment. Men are seemingly less keen to see their flabby dad-bods up on the screen.
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Big Mama doesn’t!
When they realize the "modern audience" and "our world today" are just 350 people with colored hair complaining on Twitter over everything...-for "modern audiences."
-to reflect our world today
sounds about right across the entertainment
But that's precisely what the KGB, the CCP and their fifth column in the west wants. Don't let them get you.The past 10 or so years have been driving me insane, I don't know how much more of this insanity I can take. Why can't we just enjoy things anymore? Why does everything need to be some fake battle
The perfect gif doesn’t exi…. Oh ok yeah it does
Because they have successfully corrupted Hollywood.How come companies always target gaming but not Hollywood?
Dove is a for profit company. There are a lot of fat people now and they want to be vindicated.I don't think obese is beautiful either. How about a middle ground? I wish Dove was more concerned with healthy lifestyles and the growing diabetes epidemic.
It certainly will help buckle an already strained healthcare system.
You can’t go to the gym to get bigger breasts so that comparison is flawed.