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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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NullPointer
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heh. Just for kicks really. I think Ghaleon has a point here. Without the long range weapons, encounters would take place at closer ranges allowing for more grenade/melee action and less across-the-map pinging.
xxjuicesxx
Member
I just think the polish on a Blizzard game destroys H4. Fuck me besides the launch which I wasn't even really there for had to work the first couple days people all jumped on the servers, D3 has been rock solid for me. No glitches no bugs no crashes no weird partying issues. So I play a game that works with what minimal gaming time I have these days. Sue me. Also never played D2.
I play the SC campaigns those are fun. Well polished.
Also Daravon along time ago I had a huge writeup on the brilliance of Blizzard adding the Paragon. How they took two of the main issues people had 1. Nothing to do after hitting the lvl 60 Inferno wall cause they couldn't beat it with the gear and they couldnt upgrade gear cause drops were so bad and they couldnt grind for enough cash. 2nd problem: MF gear/cap/swapping. So they created Paragon 100 more levels, that gave you MF so MF would become less relevant and solved two problems by creating one thing. It was friggen brilliant.
Goddamn 343 could learn some stuff.
Not first 30, maybe first 5.
I play the SC campaigns those are fun. Well polished.
Also Daravon along time ago I had a huge writeup on the brilliance of Blizzard adding the Paragon. How they took two of the main issues people had 1. Nothing to do after hitting the lvl 60 Inferno wall cause they couldn't beat it with the gear and they couldnt upgrade gear cause drops were so bad and they couldnt grind for enough cash. 2nd problem: MF gear/cap/swapping. So they created Paragon 100 more levels, that gave you MF so MF would become less relevant and solved two problems by creating one thing. It was friggen brilliant.
Goddamn 343 could learn some stuff.
Not first 30, maybe first 5.
Well, maybe when you've played Laser Tag for 4 hours straight and it's getting old.
Here's some free ideas:
Chase mission
-A super-fit Elite has a special package, you need to chase him down and kill him before he reaches a slip space thingy.
Stealth mission
-Don't kill things, sneak into a base undetected
Clue mission
-Search around a Covenant installment for key code clues that open a door, you actually have to find the clues, solve a puzzle, and enter them in the proper order to infiltrate the base
Zeouterlimits
Member
There's a lot of material out there about it. Basically what Jul's sect are referred to by.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I never played D2, so I can't make that comparison. It's mostly the latest patch that's made the biggest difference, I don't know if you played after 1.05 came out, but if not I'd say it's at least worth checking out.
Makes all the difference in the world. Coming from D2 it's a considerable step down.
I'd give it another go with all the patching but it seems like my account's been hijacked to poopfuck according to all the e-mails I'm getting and I'll need to go through a lot of rigmarole to recover it that I just don't think I care to put the effort into.
NullPointer
Member
The first 30 days of Diablo 3 weren't a good experience.
They were for me since all the server down times were when I was at work. XD
BuggyDClown
Member
woah wait. wtf.
I just hit 70, how the hell do I choose my next specialization? What the hell? I don't have anymore options so I can't continue to level up?
I just hit 70, how the hell do I choose my next specialization? What the hell? I don't have anymore options so I can't continue to level up?
Hypertrooper
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Link me to it. The only source I know is the action figures. No Elites, Grunts or Jackals are called "Storm Elite Zealot" except the lowest ranks. And I do not know any fiction material by 343i which calls them Storm. But I could be wrong.
OverHeat
« generous god »
I agree on the polish this is the biggest difference between the bungie and 343 titles IMO
Poker Face
Member
im sure the others will be unlocked soon trust us
Nope. Apparently everyone who played online before the 20th will get an email with a code by the 30th that lets you unlock the other Customizations. This is a good question actually - for people in this situation, do we know if once you get access to the other Specializations it'll give you credit for the XP you earned in the interim? I'm guessing probably not. At least when the removed the rank cap(s?) in Reach you did get credit for what you got in the meantime, but having to choose between different Specialization options may mess that up here.
BuggyDClown
Member
guess it's time to solo legendary if I can't rank up. lame.
You can do the scumbag move of just pre order from Amazon, and cancel. They email it out within a hour.
Reagan's BR
Banned
Spartan Ops biggest influence.
Buttons, every level looks the same, the game isn't really going anywhere, it has its ups and downs, and is largely forgettable. Perfect on so many levels (haha).
Zeouterlimits
Member
Hmm. Perhaps OXM picked it up wrong. But if it wasn't intentional, then 343 are at fault, because I've seen people referring to them as the Storm faction for weeks.
Just searching on twitter I see a bunch of people talking about the Storm Covenant, then I came across this - SpOps Episode 4 -
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Didn't we already fucking try that with Halo 2+Coag+smg starts?
Precision weapons are what make Halo, deal with it.
The words "Storm Covenant" haven't been explicitly stated in Halo 4. However, based on subtle hints throughout the campaign (i.e. Cortana to Chief in mission one "...or maybe we've come across an entire rogue fleet!"), as well as the novels (mainly The Thursday War - which revolves around the Storm Covenant and leads in Halo 4 ), it becomes clear that this is the Storm faction, although the word "Storm" was never mentioned in the campaign.
If I remember correctly, the Storm Covenant discovered Requiem around 2554, and they've had a stand on the planet ever since (according to Spartan Ops). Again, while the phrase "Storm Covenant" hasn't been mentioned in the game, there is enough evidence between the campaign, Spartan Ops, and especially The Thursday War, to conclude these are the Storm Covenant on Requiem, hence why we have the "STORM" rifle and physical variations in appearances. It's pretty obvious. A little reading and some Google searching will give you enough evidence in five minutes.
My guess is 343i's never specifically mentioned the Storm Covenant, other than The Thursday War, is because it'll be revealed (and a major plot point) in Halo 5.
NullPointer
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I wouldn't even mind the re-use as much if the story and objectives gave better reasons for revisiting these places.
Gotta admit I am looking forward to seeing some more of the multiplayer maps in SpOps too. But I'll definitely take some new environments and objectives.
Gotta admit I am looking forward to seeing some more of the multiplayer maps in SpOps too. But I'll definitely take some new environments and objectives.
I thought personal ordnance and JIP is what makes Halo. Is there a definitive list anywhere? This is getting confusing.
Reagan's BR
Banned
Back to Palmer and the eggheads on infinity.
Have still not gotten to touch it even though I have the beta. With finals, thanksgiving break, work, and a g/f it's hard to find time for anything game related. Writing a final paper for a class tonight though, and hoping to hop on and play a few games just to experience the new UI and units.
I play Zerg, but want to switch to either Terran or Toss for HOTS. The unranked ladders are my favorite change so now I can learn either race without sacrificing my win/loss and league as Zerg.
Bregmann Roche
Member
Spartan Ops biggest influence.
"Miller, light up the top few floors for
"Doing that now Commander"
"OH SHUTUP MILLER I'M TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT YOUR SCIENCE GODDAMMIT YOU LITTLE SHIT"
NullPointer
Member
My buddy fucking hates Miller and holds him personally responsible for dropping our ordnance directly on the enemy lines. Hah.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Lol that is terrible, are those videos online? How would I go about catching up?
When people who are really into Halo cant keep up with the fiction because random videos are posted on Grifballhub something is being done wrong.
Bregmann Roche
Member
It's sad that you've been pushed so far that you believed that man's lies. I can't blame you.
Not going to lie, I actually like how it looks in H4 Forge.
You'd be surprised at how well it plays, actually.
Digital Limit
Member
It's called not-having-a-deadline. StarCraft 2 came out when it was done. Halo 4 came out on Nov. 6th.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Its Halo 4 we are talking about here - Kittens idea is pretty consistent with how everything else is handled.
I would be surprised if Kittens was lying.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
It's located in the general consensus of everybody with common sense.
If you take out precision weapons as a starting choice, you make them into power weapons, as has been shown since the dawn of Halo when anyone with a pistol would destroy people on plasma pistol start gametypes.
In 4, it would make the DMR even stronger than the Sniper.
Digital Limit
Member
None of those fit the sandbox of Halo. You'd play them all the same way.
There are certainly ways to change up the formula, but those aren't good ideas.
Hm I would think a lot better than Reach simply thanks to Sprint available all the time for some of those longer trudges. Plus with nerfed nades it isn't such a cluster fuck in certain hot spots. Oh and if it's uncaged variant when the map got updated then it has more options to not get spawn camped.
All around I'd be willing to give the map another chance if it was added into H4 map cycle.
Really would just like to see The Pit though.
The last one doesn't, but the first two are great.
Spartan Ops biggest influence.
They're taking this whole button thing a little too far...
Lol, he was lying? Bravo Kittens, bravo.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Michael B.Bumblebee, is that you?!?
VivaciousJazzy
Member
Though I understand the need to re-use levels in spartan ops, they need more objectives than "Kill these things Crimson" "Hold this position Crimson" and "Press 50 buttons Crimson".
There is no creativity and its boring as hell. Effort that was spent on spartan ops should have been spent elsewhere.
There is no creativity and its boring as hell. Effort that was spent on spartan ops should have been spent elsewhere.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
What the hell are you smoking? They would perfectly fit into Halo's sandbox.
A stealth optional mission would force players to try to stealth it beginning to end, but having the alternative route of blasting their way through reinforcements. There would be some re-playability here two, at once per style, stealth and non-stealth.
A chase mission would be interesting. Do you jump in the hog and make a bee line for the character? That way the character knows your coming so he makes a beeline for his target. Makes it a straight up race. Or, how about letting the target get a little ahead of you as you mop up all the hostile forces. The target proceeds at a more leisurely pace instead, giving you a chance to catch him on foot or maybe even nab an enemy vehicle or two and catch him unaware?
The last once, maybe it would play out the same each time, but hell every damm mission in Spops right now has you seeming press buttons for no real reason any. At least being forced to push buttons in a certain order is changing it up a little. ;P
I still cannot fathom why Ragnarok is always picked. It's a map that doesn't even fit with Halo 4's idiotic mechanics.
I get that people want Blood Gulch to come back, but it has not been a good map since the first Halo, where it only worked because of how refined that game's mechanics were.
Button pushing requires millions in funding
NullPointer
Member
Can the Halo AI even work with stealth? Maybe if you had elites spaced far apart from each other and sleeping grunts. I'd like to have optional stealth if possible.
Take the Ghost Recon Future Soldier formula for their Guerrilla mode - players attack an enemy base (stealth preferred but not mandatory) and then hold the base for 9 waves and a boss wave. Then the players do the same at the next base. This could work even better with Halo + dominion-like base upgrades. *If* you could take the base by stealth you could avoid some initial reinforcements maybe.
nooooooooooo
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