GreyOcelot
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definitely. the more successful this game is, the more money and resources kojima will get thrown his way to do whatever he wants with.
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Kojima was 'fired' by Konami, says Metal Gear Solid voice actress
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definitely. the more successful this game is, the more money and resources kojima will get thrown his way to do whatever he wants with.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
So MGS V will be the last great game published bei Konami.
Actually the entirety of KojiPro was dissolved, not just Kojima individually.
TheJollyCorner
Member
You think that's bad?
I'm building a time machine right now just so I can go back and cancel all of my previous MGS pre-orders! #FREEKOJIMAAAAAA
Ugh!
You know what, Kojima will be better off without Konami
. It'll be great to see him working on something other than MGS.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Now I know what Ito is doing over at Square Enix.
Yu-Gi-Oh isn't even a fraction as relevant as it was thirteen or so years ago.
JayWood2010
Member
I really hope he wasnt fired, wouldnt make much sense considering.
However i want to see Kojima do other things than just MGS. He is considered a genious for MGS, but lets take that to new heights. Silent Hills will be a start.
However i want to see Kojima do other things than just MGS. He is considered a genious for MGS, but lets take that to new heights. Silent Hills will be a start.
And? Some are staying at Konami but a lot of the key people are leaving with him (as shown by the job posting from Konami).
I think it still does pretty well for them. The big moneymakers for them, though, are their gambling machines and the various fitness ventures they're into these days.
dark_chris
Member
Wouldn't surprise me a bit, since Konami made the idiotic mistake of disbanding Team Silent so I'm willing to believe they did somethjng this stupid. If Konami says it's incorrect then... What is it?
I'd say they are pretty relevant. At least at this moment in time. They just released Bloodborne a couple weeks ago.
family_guy
Member
I won't take a side. I'm a great fan of Kojima's work but don't know anything about what goes on over at Konami internally. I mean look at Itagaki and the sexual harassment issues at Team Ninja. You could be a great director but still have issues at work that make you a liability. Not saying this is the case, but we don't know the entire story. It will probably come out eventually. In any case it doesn't matter because Metal Gear was the only thing I was buying from Konami anyway so I have no reason to continue giving them my business after this game.
spookyfish
Member
Oh, it seems Konami has said she's wrong.
*WHEW*
For a minute there I thought maybe they had done it ...
*WHEW*
For a minute there I thought maybe they had done it ...
Interfectum
Member
Could we be looking at this wrong and Kojima actually started "Kojima Productions" outside of Konami and they are being contracted to finish MGS5 before moving on to their own stuff?
BB is a From Software game, Sony just funded and helped with it.
Have you seen The Secret Forces sales?
darkazcura
Member
What no? I have no doubt that shady things are probably happening at Konami, but based off that tweet, he is saying his role changed, and he decided not to stay with the company in his new role once he is scheduled to transition in December. I don't think you are reading that particular tweet correctly, but they may have put him in a role they knew he wouldn't enjoy indirectly forcing him out. That is pretty different from being out right fired.
Ha!
Has Vanity Fair reported something incorrect too though? Lol
As much as I'd like to see the hilarity if all this is another elaborate Kojima troll, I think he is better off moving on and doing something new.
And?
That means when KojiPro was cut, all employees were cut with it. Some probably were offer contracts, some were probably offered other positions, some probably said F-off.
My point is of course you are going to see some people leave with him, doesnt change the fact that his termination (Whomever is at fault) wasn't the cause
littletran22
Member
Shiet son...
I hope Kojima is alright
I hope Kojima is alright
CambriaRising
Member
No, he hasn't been fired. His contract is up in December so he will leave in December. What are you not getting here?
SE are also in black and SEGA/SAMMY were the last couple of years. Still, the amount of stupid ass decision and untapped/wasted potential is high. Imagine what Nintendo could be now if they haven't half assed the last console transition, the amount of blatant incompetence is appalling. Thankfully they're slowly recovering...
Agree to disagree then.
They are continuing to make MGS so they would have little reason to get rid of the team members (especially in key positions) after KojiPro was dissolved, which is why they started hiring before MGSV is even finished.
Damerman
Member
Exactly this. Even if kojimais in the right... A company has to do what a company has to do, and kojima is better off without them. Its not like ubisoft who bought patrice desiletes company only to fire the guy from the new IP.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Sony still own the rights to the franchise.
TheJollyCorner
Member
What's even more sad is a lot of the Team Silent members moved over to Kojima Productions and are now likely in a tough spot.
Do you stick around and work on non-Kojima created MGS games or do you pull a mass exodus, bail with Kojima, and hope either he can create his own successful indie studio or one of the big boys pick all of you up as a 'team'?
Makes me wonder if Kojima's involvement with Silent Hills was a way to transition some of the original Team Silent members he worked with @ KojiPro back to the Silent Hill franchise. Now it's a giant question mark. :/
Well, people said the same thing about Sakaguchi back in 2001.
The truth is, in that particular case, he was not better off without Square's money- and hasn't really had a hit since his days with the FF series.
Indeed they do. That doesnt make it a Japan Studio made game though, they just helped with it.
I know but they still have their name on the box of a game that is getting a lot of good press. Not trying to argue.
Even though I already consider them relevant, Kojima would definitely make them super relevant.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
"Please understand"
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Looks like money was the problem.
No surprises there.
News editor at Gamespot.
BRocknRolla
Member
With you 100%. I love the MGS games, and Kojima has had a profound effect on gaming, but I'm not going to pretend I know what happened here either.
There's some serious business going down and clearly some bad blood, but none of us really know who is at fault, or if it's anything more than big egos and petty disputes.
Lockjaw333
Member
Konami literally has nothing outside of MGS. Kojima and the MGS series are the only thing they have. They should pretty much let him do whatever the F he wants.
If there was a legit reason for letting him go it must have been something really bad.
If there was a legit reason for letting him go it must have been something really bad.
He's under a media gag, the team is not permitted to speak publicly, they start defacing his work... clearly something is going on beyond Kojima deciding to leave. Based on the tsunami of disguised but telling twitter pics of somber goodbyes, I highly doubt it was his plan.
Well, yeah, but revoking the renewal of a previously continuous contract is only a semantic sidestep to saying 'fired'. But you really take all of that at face value? Something has to have happened for this to be the reaction.
Well, yeah, but revoking the renewal of a previously continuous contract is only a semantic sidestep to saying 'fired'. But you really take all of that at face value? Something has to have happened for this to be the reaction.
It's sad, I wanted to hear "Sins of the Father" live.
Gamespot is becoming more and more of a joke to me. How the hell would he know anyway? I thought everyone involved was under NDA, is he suggesting someone broke NDA to him?
Why do people keep saying this after thousands of post, and and 5 different threads....Its not true
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
It's from long ago but IIRC the early exodus of talent from Konami, that resulted in studios like Treasure, was because said staff made Konami sound particularly shallow and short sighted. All Konami wanted to make were exploitative licensed games, hoping to cash in on trends. And the staff members didn't want to make those, over Konami's original franchises like Contra or Castlevania.
While that direction resulted in some classic games such as the TMNT series, Konami did drop their original games like hot potatoes, heavily devaluing them or underfunding future entries. (Such as what Iga struggled with for years trying to get Castlevania games made.)
Nothing I've seen from Konami's corporate behavior has ever contradicted this though. Once Metal Gear Solid hit it big, they quickly dropped everything to milk that as their new golden goose. Good for Kojima, bad for any other IP they'd ever created.
While that direction resulted in some classic games such as the TMNT series, Konami did drop their original games like hot potatoes, heavily devaluing them or underfunding future entries. (Such as what Iga struggled with for years trying to get Castlevania games made.)
Nothing I've seen from Konami's corporate behavior has ever contradicted this though. Once Metal Gear Solid hit it big, they quickly dropped everything to milk that as their new golden goose. Good for Kojima, bad for any other IP they'd ever created.
Konami publicly stated that info
Why do you think people are not talking about the gaming industry? this is a gaming forum nobody cares about their health or casino machines shit.
exmachina64
Banned
Damn right.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Konami: Work on the next Metal Gear
Kojima: No, I want to work on something new
Konami:
