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is there a PS3 shortage or are sales really that bad?

GAFers from Japan have said many times it's not very hard to find a PS3 over there.

 

[u_neek]

If, IF, those hardware numbers are true it doesn't say good things for PS3 demand.

Sony are learning their lesson.
I just hope it doesn't mean crappy support from Jap developers.

 

[cw_sasuke]

if it keeps that way - SE should start 2 announce some new wii games....

 

[TheGreatDave]

The funny

Oh man :lol

GAF is going to be so much fun when neither PS3 and Wii have proper, non-sold out sales.

Spoiler

assuming Wii gets there

 

[Hiro_Kunimi_80]

Party's over.

not yet!
GOW release in japan is.. today so next week.. " 5 digit HW sales confirmed" ( 10.001 maybe/at most )

 

[methane47]

More MC numbers

18　Wii　Zelda　17,000　342,000
28　Wii　DragonBallZ　12,000　78,000
67　Wii　Bleach　3,700　46,000　
72　Wii　Elebits　3,500　35,000　
96　Wii　SD Gundam　5,000　30,000　(1/1 ~ 1.7 number)

36　DS　Shiren　7,400　147,000　
38　DS　FF3　7,200　964,000　
43　DS　Power Pro Kun Pocket 9　5,800　100,000　
55　DS　Chocobo　4,700　82,000　
88　DS　Tingle RPG　5,700　213,000　(1/1 ~ 1.7 number)

40　PS3　Resistance: Fall of Man　6,300　100,000
48　PS3　Gundam　5,200　116,000

Does this mean PS3 made into the top 50?!?!?!

 

[Furoba]

More MC numbers

18　Wii　Zelda　17,000　342,000
28　Wii　DragonBallZ　12,000　78,000
67　Wii　Bleach　3,700　46,000　
72　Wii　Elebits　3,500　35,000　
96　Wii　SD Gundam　5,000　30,000　(1/1 ~ 1.7 number)

36　DS　Shiren　7,400　147,000　
38　DS　FF3　7,200　964,000　
43　DS　Power Pro Kun Pocket 9　5,800　100,000　
55　DS　Chocobo　4,700　82,000　
88　DS　Tingle RPG　5,700　213,000　(1/1 ~ 1.7 number)

40　PS3　Resistance: Fall of Man　6,300　100,000
48　PS3　Gundam　5,200　116,000

I wonder wether 3rd party Wii launch software sales will pick up as the total Wii userbase increases or not... If Wii keeps selling the way it does, Zelda could really take off IMO (compared to The Wind Waker). Does anyone have the sales numbers on the GameCube version btw?

 

[youta]

PS3: 34k

 

[Nibelung Valesti]

40　PS3　Resistance: Fall of Man　6,300　100,000

Uh, wait... Resistance.. 100k? In Japan?

:|

 

[Mana Knight]

I'd say PS3 actually isn't doing all that bad. There's a very small selection of games available in Japan and really none of them are potential high sellers (except for RR7 to an extent, but RR6 didn't drive 360 sales much). PSP (although a handheld) at least had a Hot Shots Golf and Dynasty Warriors at launch (stuff that sold 1 million on PS2). I do feel that once more appealing games come out, the PS3 sales will increase (It's outselling 360 currently and there are pretty good games out for 360 in Japan).

I can't believe Resistance is selling as well as it has in Japan. By the rate its going, it may be the top selling FPS ever in Japan, but we'll see.

 

[909er]

MMOs usually require a lot of real-estate, towns, fleshed out worlds. There also has to be a reason for the tens of thousands of gamers to populate the world.

I think a Pokemon MMO would run into problems because it would probably be very frustrating to younger gamers who have to deal with the vulgar language and attitude of other players. Also competition for rare items/monsters might get out of hand. Again, given the demographic who plays it (i'm not saying its for kids, but a lot of kids do enjoy Pokemon) it might not be a good thing.

You know, my experiences on Xbox Live doesn't give me much faith in that department. My black friend, who happened to love Gears of War, doesn't even play it anymore after about 20 ppl (half of whom sounded like some 10 year old) dropped the n-bomb more times than I can count.

 

[u_neek]

How did the PS2 do in its first few weeks on the market??

 

[ghostlyjoe]

I'd say PS3 actually isn't doing all that bad. There's a very small selection of games available in Japan and really none of them are potential high sellers (except for RR7 to an extent, but RR6 didn't drive 360 sales much). PSP (although a handheld) at least had a Hot Shots Golf and Dynasty Warriors at launch (stuff that sold 1 million on PS2). I do feel that once more appealing games come out, the PS3 sales will increase (It's outselling 360 currently and there are pretty good games out for 360 in Japan).

I can't believe Resistance is selling as well as it has in Japan. By the rate its going, it may be the top selling FPS ever in Japan, but we'll see.

It was pointed out earlier that PS3 is outpacing the PS2 at this point. Sales only seem poor when set in stark releif against the unprecedented success of Nintendo. The PSP is in the same situation. It's reasonably popular, but it's nothing compared to DS mania. It's a good sign for overall industry health, isn't it?

 

[castle007]

uh oh
DSlite: 110k
Wii: 96k
PSP: 45k
PS3: 34k
PS2: 24k
360: 9k

WTF at PS3

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

It was pointed out earlier that PS3 is outpacing the PS2 at this point. Sales only seem poor when set in stark releif against the unprecedented success of Nintendo. The PSP is in the same situation. It's reasonably popular, but it's nothing compared to DS mania. It's a good sign for overall industry health, isn't it?

Normally it would be, there's just one variable that kills lower trending hardware: Third parties.

IF third parties treated all systems equally we'd see somewhat equal growth. What third parties usually do though, is stick with the Winner. If the PS3 falls behind like this for too long it will be nothing but bad news for Sony.

 

[jarrod]

It was pointed out earlier that PS3 is outpacing the PS2 at this point. Sales only seem poor when set in stark releif against the unprecedented success of Nintendo.

Er... I thought PS2 passed a million in like 2 weeks originally? It took Wii 4-5 weeks to do that and PS3's barely half way there 2 months later...

 

[Leonsito]

It was pointed out earlier that PS3 is outpacing the PS2 at this point.

I thought that PS2 almost did a million in its first week.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I thought that PS2 almost did a million in its first week.

I thought it was 600000.

 

[Jonnyram]

I think he's confused between PS2 and PSP... or something.
PS2 sold 650k in its opening weekend. PS3 has yet to reach that amount after two months.

 

[plagiarize]

yeah. it was pointed out that the ps3 has outpaced the ps2 if we're talking about how long it took for sales to DROP to the 30k bracket. it's certainly outpaced it there.

but remember kids, 1 million shipped to japan!

mission accomplished!

 

[Luckyman]

It was pointed out earlier that PS3 is outpacing the PS2 at this point.

Umm.. :lol

Seems like all hardware took a nosedive.

 

[Y2Kev]

Oh dear...and PS3 is cheaper there than here.

Software needed. And even then, we'll see if it matters.

 

[jamesinclair]

If PS3 number is real...we must wait one more week, since this one number isnt enough.

However, I see sony anouncing new colors and a tetrapack soon.

Actually, is the 20GB version available in Japan? If not....I assume it will be very very soon

 

[ghostlyjoe]

Here's an interesting tidbit;

The PS2 didnt hit the 30k mark untill 7-months after its release.

I was referring to this post. Apparantly, I read it backwards. I thought he was saying PS2 started more slowly, but it could just as easily mean the opposite.

Edit: It's early (for me), and I have a long day of work ahead. Be gentle.

 

[Leonsito]

I thought it was 600000.

That was, yeah, I was wrong.

 

[bud]

Actually, is the 20GB version available in Japan? soon

yes

 

[LOCK]

More MC numbers

18　Wii　Zelda　17,000　342,000
28　Wii　DragonBallZ　12,000　78,000
67　Wii　Bleach　3,700　46,000　
72　Wii　Elebits　3,500　35,000　
96　Wii　SD Gundam　5,000　30,000　(1/1 ~ 1.7 number)

36　DS　Shiren　7,400　147,000　
38　DS　FF3　7,200　964,000　
43　DS　Power Pro Kun Pocket 9　5,800　100,000　
55　DS　Chocobo　4,700　82,000　
88　DS　Tingle RPG　5,700　213,000　(1/1 ~ 1.7 number)

40　PS3　Resistance: Fall of Man　6,300　100,000
48　PS3　Gundam　5,200　116,000

Good sales for wii third partys. Also go FF3

The PS3 is just sad.

 

[Haunted]

yeah. it was pointed out that the ps3 has outpaced the ps2 if we're talking about how long it took for sales to DROP to the 30k bracket. it's certainly outpaced it there.

but remember kids, 1 million shipped to japan!

mission accomplished!

:lol I wanted to post this!

 

[Y2Kev]

Resistance broke 100k? Isn't that like...really good considering the game type and hardware base in Japan?

 

[Luckyman]

Good sales for wii third partys.

Ugh.

 

[goompapa]

Resistance broke 100k? Isn't that like...really good considering the game type and hardware base in Japan?

They have to buy something.

 

[Haunted]

Resistance broke 100k? Isn't that like...really good considering the game type and hardware base in Japan?

It definitely is. Famitsu gave it great scores as well. Japan loves FPS CONFIRMED.

 

[jarrod]

Resistance broke 100k? Isn't that like...really good considering the game type and hardware base in Japan?

1st party domination.

 

[ethelred]

I'd say PS3 actually isn't doing all that bad. There's a very small selection of games available in Japan and really none of them are potential high sellers (except for RR7 to an extent, but RR6 didn't drive 360 sales much). PSP (although a handheld) at least had a Hot Shots Golf and Dynasty Warriors at launch (stuff that sold 1 million on PS2). I do feel that once more appealing games come out, the PS3 sales will increase (It's outselling 360 currently and there are pretty good games out for 360 in Japan).

I can't believe Resistance is selling as well as it has in Japan. By the rate its going, it may be the top selling FPS ever in Japan, but we'll see.

Ah, sweet soft bigotry of low expectations.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Ah, sweet soft bigotry of low expectations.

The "It's outselling XBOX 360" was a nice touch.

 

[ethelred]

The "It's outselling XBOX 360" was a nice touch.

Right up there with "best selling FPS in Japan."

 

[DCharlie]

Is spin in anyway possible for this?

Shortages?

nope and nope.

PS3 is at about 500k YTD - and Sony themselves have said that they've shipped 1m units in Japan (which by Sonys definition is to the hands of retailers)

so - we have 500k units on shelves , and 35k sold this week.

I mentioned that there would be a lull after xmas already - the sales are going to stay low for a while and the PS3 is -OBVIOUSLY- not selling in Japan. Alarm bells surely are starting to ring.

seriously - remember the "Sony will sell as many units as they can ship" line? it's not looking to rosy right about now.

 

[Phife Dawg]

If PS3 number is real...we must wait one more week, since this one number isnt enough.

However, I see sony anouncing new colors and a tetrapack soon.

Actually, is the 20GB version available in Japan? If not....I assume it will be very very soon

They even lowered the price for the 20 Gigs shortly before launch.
PS3 will take off once more software gets released. It could still rise to PS2 numbers heaven-who will know? The DS took off quite late as well.

 

[Error]

I'd say PS3 actually isn't doing all that bad. There's a very small selection of games available in Japan and really none of them are potential high sellers (except for RR7 to an extent, but RR6 didn't drive 360 sales much). PSP (although a handheld) at least had a Hot Shots Golf and Dynasty Warriors at launch (stuff that sold 1 million on PS2). I do feel that once more appealing games come out, the PS3 sales will increase (It's outselling 360 currently and there are pretty good games out for 360 in Japan).

I can't believe Resistance is selling as well as it has in Japan. By the rate its going, it may be the top selling FPS ever in Japan, but we'll see.

:lol

this is going to be such an awesome gen

 

[LanceStern]

Insomniac Games tended to do very well in Japan. Even Ratchet and Clank sold nicely there. Japan likes them.

 

[Kafel]

PS3 is the new Neo Geo ?

 

[Kiriku]

100 000 for Resistance is pretty impressive. What's the best-selling Western FPS in Japan anyway?

 

[lochnesssnowman]

They even lowered the price for the 20 Gigs shortly before launch.
PS3 will take off once more software gets released. It could still rise to PS2 numbers heaven-who will know? The DS took off quite late as well.

While I agree with the 'DS took off quite late' statement in general (in that it didn't go doolally until Lite hit), comparing the PS3 to DS at this stage doesn't look good for the PS3.

After 9 weeks...

PS3 DS
81,639 468,883
42,099 198,892
32,662 221,625
31,436 396,674
50,171 209,522
70,942 108,561
76,882 53,527
71,727 43,226
69,944 44,608

total
527,502 1,745,518

The DS launched 3 weeks later as well so the last 3 weeks on the DS list are post Christmas bonanza period (2nd week of Jan onwards).

 

[Il Comodino]

nope and nope.

PS3 is at about 500k YTD - and Sony themselves have said that they've shipped 1m units in Japan (which by Sonys definition is to the hands of retailers)

so - we have 500k units on shelves , and 35k sold this week.

I mentioned that there would be a lull after xmas already - the sales are going to stay low for a while and the PS3 is -OBVIOUSLY- not selling in Japan. Alarm bells surely are starting to ring.

seriously - remember the "Sony will sell as many units as they can ship" line? it's not looking to rosy right about now.

yes but 35k Ps3 is not confirmed.

 

[ethelred]

yes but 35k Ps3 is not confirmed.

Are you going to hang your hopes on that?

What happens when it turns out to be pretty much correct? What then? Let's have a trial run, shall we?

 

[u_neek]

No, it could be 36k..

 

[jimbo]

uh oh
DSlite: 110k
Wii: 96k
PSP: 45k
PS3: 34k
PS2: 24k
360: 9k

Nice Wii and DS sales. The effect of the PS3's price has kicked in and is now showing. Not very surprising at this point. Its sales will remain lukewarm until a price drop. Expected 360 sales. Like I said before it would have been lucky to maintain 10k, but 9k is at the higher end of what I expected for a regular January week. I expected between 5k-6k average. If it holds anywhere near here it will outsell the original Xbox by the end of summer, although I still expect it to drop to 5k-6k.


Last week's numbers and percentage change for comparison:

DSL 344,878
Wii 195,331
PSP 118,186
PS3 69,944
PS2 52,037
Xbox360 18,235


DSL(-68%)
Wii(-51%)
PSP(-62%)
PS3(-52%)
PS2(-54%)
Xbox 360(-50%)



The biggest drop in sales was in hand-helds.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I'd say PS3 actually isn't doing all that bad. There's a very small selection of games available in Japan and really none of them are potential high sellers (except for RR7 to an extent, but RR6 didn't drive 360 sales much).

Huh? The software sales are utterly horrible, and that's where profits come from. So Sony is taking huge hits on hardware in Japan while failing to sale any software. How is that "not bad at all"?

PSP (although a handheld) at least had a Hot Shots Golf and Dynasty Warriors at launch (stuff that sold 1 million on PS2)

And RR and Genji both sold well on the PS2.

 

[Bungalow Bob]

PD, never change. :lol

Ya, you rock PD. GAF wouldn´t be the same without you.

 

[DarkMehm]

Shouldn't NSMB's LTD be at 4,021,134? Last week it was at 3,986,506.