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Nintendo DS Games in HD
- Thread starter PGamer
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Not Radiant Historia, that's sprite characters and 3D backgrounds just like Pokemon. It's a very common technique on DS actually. Advance Wars 3/4, Tales of Hearts, Heroes of Mana, FFXII Revenant Wings (this one should look great in HD) are other examples of this, with very likely a lot of other unmentioned ones.
Want to second the request for Nanostray 2.
Also I think Ghost Trick would be worth a try. I always thought some if not all characters may actually be done with polygons, trying it in HD would prove resp. disprove this.
Why would you do that?
Member
The one thing that sucks about the high resolution versions compared to the DS is the outlines. With the original DS's resolution, the one pixel outlines work well and give games a cel-shaded look. However, the HD versions from the emulator are still one pixel, so they're not noticeable.
In some instances, that's good:
but in others, that's bad:
I hope that in the future, there will be an option to allow you to change the thickness of the lines between one pixel and "adjusted" to maintain the same thickness.
In some instances, that's good:
but in others, that's bad:
The difference between the two is ridiculous.
I hope that in the future, there will be an option to allow you to change the thickness of the lines between one pixel and "adjusted" to maintain the same thickness.
To be fair, they've gone against a competitor with much better graphics and won more than once, while saving money by not getting high end hardware.
It may not be enjoyable for the consumer, but any business would take those margins if they could get away with it.
NotMyRealName
Banned
Why are the HD screens still kind of... blocky?
What do you mean?
Why would you do that?
Member
Probably low resolution, non-filtered textures you're looking at (which is why many people compare the shots to a PS1), but you should post an example.
Aquamarine
Member
It's useless because all assets (from the pinball, to the enemies, to the stages) are pre-rendered sprites, so attempting to render it at a higher resolution just stretches it.
Metroid Prime Pinball is entirely sprites - not a seam of 3D in it, even with the ball - just a sprite.
Yup!
Are these images working?
Opinionatedfish
Member
I may have to track down those two Avatar games.
This thread inspired me to track down Juiced 2.
But yeah, I collect DS games. Currently at 353 unique.
Also, Juiced 2 is pretty decent so far.
This thread inspired me to track down Juiced 2.
But yeah, I collect DS games. Currently at 353 unique.
Also, Juiced 2 is pretty decent so far.
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Deleted member 22576
Unconfirmed Member
Wow, some of this really great. Original DS is perhaps one of my favorite consoles ever.
Opinionatedfish
Member
If only there was some sort of device I could just plug my DS games into and do this with them.
Because... I own almost all of the games being shown in physical form. :3
I prefer original equipment. but yeah.. if only there was a way...
Because... I own almost all of the games being shown in physical form. :3
I prefer original equipment. but yeah.. if only there was a way...
Aquamarine
Member
The full-size before and after shots of Metroid Prime Hunters show a major, major contrast:
Normal:
HD:
Normal:
HD:
Look at the ridiculous amount of detail that's revealed the moment you bump up the resolution.
Normal:
HD:
Normal:
HD:
Look at the ridiculous amount of detail that's revealed the moment you bump up the resolution.
Opinionatedfish
Member
The full-size before and after shots of Metroid Prime Hunters show a major, major contrast:
Normal:
HD:
Normal:
HD:
Look at the ridiculous amount of detail that's revealed the moment you switch up the resolution.
It's almost as if Nintendo and some other developers use textures that are above the resolution the NDS can display for some reason.
SpaceBridge
Member
How does Strange Journey look?
LithiumSpade
Member
That is absolutely amazing.
Aquamarine
Member
Quick recommendation, since the maximum rendering resolution this allows us is 1024x768, you should change the window display size to have a 1024 width instead of a 1280 width, because then you're just getting an upscaled, distorted image.
StreetsAhead
Member
These look amazing! Anyone have Fossil Fighters/Fossil Fighters Champions? I'd love to see what it looks in HD, if possible.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Seems to be common practice. Even a lot of Wii games use high res textures.
Not really. It's a first person shooter so naturally you can get very close to the textures in actual gameplay so they have to be that "high-res" to hold up. Keep in mind those screens are very wide shots and indicative of gameplay.
UncleSporky
Member
I assume it's because as a first person game, it's possible to get right up close to the walls, floor etc. and see some of those details. The details do matter in first person, if possible you don't want it to be too ridiculously blocky when you're right up next to a wall.
not sure if posted but http://imgur.com/a/ORzki#0
whitemex88
Member
Just curious about resident evil
MemoryHumanity
Member
Woah @ Revenant Wings. Beautiful.
I want to see that as well
Dr.brain64
Member
Man!! seeing the diddy kong racing images makes me want to play it again with its glorious music. Very dissapointed on the ds version but i would totally buy it on the 3ds though.
I assume the 3ds is able to make it look like in the images (right?)
I assume the 3ds is able to make it look like in the images (right?)
Aquamarine
Member
The pre-rendered sprite background unfortunately matches the original resolution (256x192), so there's barely any extra gain from that. But the models are MUCH, MUCH more crisp, as well as any 3D elements in the scene.
Original:
HD:
Original:
HD:
Original:
HD:
MechaBowser
Member
Man, these are gorgeous. If only Ninty would do this for DS emulation on Wii U.
I dont have any screens on hand, but if anyone is wondering this is what happens in Ninja Gaiden DS as well
Nice! Thanks for doing that.
These are games 2 & 3 though, how about the first one?
Holy shit, SE could include this to make up the two game quota for HD collections when they do FFXII IZJS HD, and I'd be happy with it
bobawesome
Member
Aquamarine said:
That Jill sandwich...
revolverjgw
Member
PS1 and DS were too low-res even for this kind of pixel art, it's ruinous. It's amazing what kind of detail is buried under all that grain.
Aquamarine
Member
StreetsAhead
Member
It does look great! Thank you!　
Now I don't know how to feel about the 3DS version though, haha.
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzRjx3akXcyjsNf
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzRmLEDkRYDul2L
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzRuVLZEiqJKIWV
I'm Guessing this version of the emulator doesn't like AMD cards (laptop 8750m model in my case)?
Because if i set the laptop to use it, evewrything is a garbled mess with opengl,
switch to intel and all is fine visually, eventhough it runs slow as molasses then.
EDIT: Seems it's anything 2x and higher causing it, set it to disabled then Opengl works fine.
Because if i set the laptop to use it, evewrything is a garbled mess with opengl,
switch to intel and all is fine visually, eventhough it runs slow as molasses then.
EDIT: Seems it's anything 2x and higher causing it, set it to disabled then Opengl works fine.