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Pachter Predicts: Xbox One outsold PS4 in September (dance, you puppets)
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Chezzymann
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When does the NPD thread come up?
Aquamarine
Member
Thursday, 6:30 PM EDT (numbers come out before then).
TetraGenesis
Member
SpeedyBlueDude is already banned though
Haha, really? How'd Speedy get banned?
OuterLimits
Member
Exactly. It is similar to everyone remembering when their local TV meteorologist messes up a forecast badly.
By being Speedy. The ban is for a whole year as well. Just look up his antics in the Phil Spencer indie parity thread.
TheOnePercent
Member
SpeedyBlueDude is already banned though
I was at least hoping for a marc^o^ vs Amir0x Wii U sales showdown but both of them are banned, too.
theprodigy
Member
The kid got ahead of himself a bit. He will probably end up with a job at Bungie like Luke Smith one day. All he has to do is keep building his brand with fanboy tenacity. Got a good head on his shoulders.
TheOnePercent
Member
Ami got a little too worked up in the Assassin's Creed parity thread. I have no idea about marc.
krypt0nian
Banned
SpeedyBlueDude is already banned though
For a year. :O
That's not how it works.He talks about 39 compared to 29 million consoles sold by 2016. It's now 10 to 5.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Verendus
Please consider purchasing the Xbox All-in-One Games and Entertainment System by Microsoft
Actually it's more like this.
Hahaha, maybe, but he used to post here. Once a Gaffer, always a Gaffer.
Unless you're Dennis Dyack.
Well, I hope Microsoft gives me a performance bonus. Whilst Phil is busy making himself look clueless, I feel that I am singlehandedly turning the tides of this "sales war" with my relentless efforts.
Hopefully Satya Nadella is taking notice.
lol this thread has been incredibly entertaining! Can't wait for Thursday as it should be as equally or even more entertaining
My personal opinion: No chance in hell PS4 loses this month, especially not by a margin expressed by Pachter. I would be absolutely SHOCKED if he is right on this one
A lot of people have no idea how economy/market competition works. I think I saw the term monopoly being thrown around several times which was hilariously inaccurate use of it. Hats off to the few who actually did their best to correct these wrong notions.
Quite a few users have made comments like, there's a lot of anger, meltdowns, fanboys etc etc in this thread and have I have yet to see a single meltdown so far. Feel like a lazy attempt at being overly defensive when many are arguing against your point. This also applies to pachter and that fanboys tweet. This is just going to make things worse on Thursday if he is wrong, which I fully expect him to be. He is not above criticism.
Just because people engage in heated discussion about this doesn't make them fanboys nor does it make them fanboys because they disagree with you. This specific prediction really is an outlier when it comes to general expectations of those who enjoy following sales trends.
My personal opinion: No chance in hell PS4 loses this month, especially not by a margin expressed by Pachter. I would be absolutely SHOCKED if he is right on this one
A lot of people have no idea how economy/market competition works. I think I saw the term monopoly being thrown around several times which was hilariously inaccurate use of it. Hats off to the few who actually did their best to correct these wrong notions.
Quite a few users have made comments like, there's a lot of anger, meltdowns, fanboys etc etc in this thread and have I have yet to see a single meltdown so far. Feel like a lazy attempt at being overly defensive when many are arguing against your point. This also applies to pachter and that fanboys tweet. This is just going to make things worse on Thursday if he is wrong, which I fully expect him to be. He is not above criticism.
Just because people engage in heated discussion about this doesn't make them fanboys nor does it make them fanboys because they disagree with you. This specific prediction really is an outlier when it comes to general expectations of those who enjoy following sales trends.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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dont worry man, karma will do its thing
Version 3.0
Member
He really is ioi, then?
To be fair to Patcher he does have a proper day job too.
Version 3.0
Member
Yeah, I know, just kidding. But that, as described, is exactly what ioi does for at least a portion of chartzzz's secret sauce calculations.
But of course, he claims that results in accurate numbers, not just predictions.
BruceLeeRoy
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I don't think Speedy is on a similar career path as Luke Smith
crazygambit
Member
You guys are insane. Of course he has to reveal his methodology, what he won't tell you is the number of his contacts inside the company or maybe even the names of the "big players" he calls. If he says he's not calling them, he's not calling them. How is that so hard to understand?
Oh shoot, I'm gonna miss Amir0x.
Hope the ban isn't too long.
Ami has done more 7 day DL stints than anyone I can remember in 7+ years here, I'm sure he's just on a timeout.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Pachter's public predictions are moreso meant to guide the market and nudge things this way or that way, not really to "predict". An analyst does not actually spew out his best analysis for free. If you're paying attention, Pachter always advocates for 3rd parties and rarely advocates for non-American companies. He clearly has ulterior motives.
Why would it matter that X1 outsold PS4? Well, it would go to show that Microsoft's aggressive partnerships with 3rd parties (ding ding ding) is something that "works" and should be further encouraged. Look back through Pachter's predictions and 99 out of 100 times he's either encouraging or "predicting a market trend" that ends up being beneficial to 3rd parties in some way.
TheBanditKing
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I scanned carefully but your post seemed to be missing something so I fixed it for you!
Patcher is insane, and this proves it.
Nearly all of those areas in the UK were Privatised due to the magic idea that privatisation and the fairy magic of competition would lead to greater efficiencies and better outcomes for government/public. The result of hewing to magical thinking in competition has resulted in is pretty much price gouging monopolies. Those industries you point to as conning consumers are the result of binary thinking : competition good no matter the market/service/product.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Is NPD ever going to track digital sales from PSN/XBL/Steam and Eshop?
Aquamarine
Member
They're working on it.
It's not all the way there because they either have to convince Sony + Microsoft + Valve + Nintendo to give up data, or they have to convince every major publisher to do so.
Either of those tasks is exceptionally difficult to achieve.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Why are these companies so secretive about their digital sales? Are they afraid that brick and mortar are going to demand even more dlc as digital sales rise?
Pachter was on gamer tag radio podcast the other day, he said Microsoft was going to do another 'buy a Xbox and get one free' deal possibly in November, guy also admitted to be pro xbox
With that said, I don't see x1 outselling ps4 until November.
If it did outsell Sony in September it will be the biggest upset since Titanfall in March
With that said, I don't see x1 outselling ps4 until November.
If it did outsell Sony in September it will be the biggest upset since Titanfall in March
speculawyer
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How do we get 40+ pages of discussion on something Pachter pulled out of his ass?
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Digital sales are that 'unknown' which NPD and analysts can point to when sales are down for a month, i.e. "Software sales were down by 85% compared to last year, but no.... no... the industry isn't having an issue because of DIGITAL SALES, which we won't tell you but please believe when we say that they're great"
markedbravado
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But GTA V bruh.
But did he admit to being pro Xbox because he's pro video games in general, or did he admit to being pro Xbox as opposed to being pro PS4?
I assume this means buy an XBO and get a game free, not buy an XBO and get a second XBO for free.
Good grief! I'd probably cry if I got a year long ban. I love you guys. ;__;
Now I know hindsight is always 20/20, but that really wasn't an upset. Neither was the Kinectless XB1 getting outsold in June
Son of Sam
Banned
Patcher getting ripped apart by the Sony crowd for suggesting MS won one month? Man, and people think the console wars are over....
neogaffer1
Banned
Wii U > Xbox One > PS4 will be ideal if only for the great GAF Meltdown of October 2014, if nothing else.
Is this a serious post.
Son of Sam
Banned
People are going bananas on the guy, no? I don't think Patcher really cares which console comes out on top.
Do you really think he cares? Unless he has serious stock in Microsoft i don't see him losing sleep over it.
I know that you know... actually though it is funny to imagine Patcher actually is behind the v******z and uses it to push his agenda.
Son of Sam
Banned
I don't think it's far fetched to suggest a certain section of the gaming population is hassling the dude considering he just tweeted about it.
But yah, lets pretend though it's the mob of level headed people coming at him feverishly
Are you saying people are challenging his prediction because they're Sony fanboys and not because it's a pretty crazy prediction as per usual even for Mr. Pachter himself?
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