For reference:
(these measurements are at 1m)
So yeah, not super quiet. Definitely much better than a launch PS3, but not quiet.
Enjoy playing BF4 on your netbook.A netbook class CPU pulling 80W at idle is a lot tbh.
How the fuck are these measurements made. Most of these are below the ambient noise of a normal room.
This setup allows us to eliminate secondary noise sources and test only the video card. To be more compliant with standards like DIN 45635 (we are not claiming to be fully DIN 45635 certified), the measurement was conducted at 100 cm of distance and at 160 cm off the floor. The ambient background noise level in the room was well below 20 dBA for all measurements.
How's that temperature in relation to the PS3 (launch and/or slim)?
PS3 makes my room hot, it would be nice if the PS4 was a bit cooler...
8-core CPU + "download" CPU + HD spinning + cooling. 80W seems pretty reasonable with that power load to me.
im not a mathematician or electrician however isnt there a unit of measure missing when referencing the power consumption in the info provided?
Keep in mind these aren't power sipping Intel components, AMD have historically had issues keeping idle consumption down on their CPU components. Even at the lower TDP end.
I imagine even while idle the UI requires GPU input so that'd increase the Idle consumption as well.
A watt is 1 joule per second. Something that uses 1 watt will draw 1 watt-hour over 1 hour. The amount of electricity you use is measured in kilowatt-hours normally, but for the purposes of instantaneous power consumption; we use watts.
thanks.
would you mind jotting down an equation similar to the ones on the chart on this page to better help me/others understand. based on 2 hours of game operation per day as a base line estimated at 140W
At 140W:
0.14kW x 2 hrs/day x 365 days/yr = 102.2 kWh / year
Here in QLD Australia, our electricity is somewhere around 25-30cents / kWh. That equates to something like 30 bux a year.
Do you have a 8 Core Netbook?
How do those noise levels compare to PS3/360?
Your city reaches 50 degrees Celsius in summer...?It's more hot in my city on summer than the temperature peak of the PS4. LOL
Keep in mind these aren't power sipping Intel components, AMD have historically had issues keeping idle consumption down on their CPU components. Even at the lower TDP end.
I imagine even while idle the UI requires GPU input so that'd increase the Idle consumption as well.
A watt is 1 joule per second. Something that uses 1 watt will draw 1 watt-hour over 1 hour. The amount of electricity you use is measured in kilowatt-hours normally, but for the purposes of instantaneous power consumption; we use watts.
It's more hot in my city on summer than the temperature peak of the PS4. LOL
A netbook class CPU pulling 80W at idle is a lot tbh.
No discussion. 80W in idle is ridiculously bad. I hope they can fix it.
PS4 can download games in stand-by mode, though.
The fastest 32nm AMD Richland APU needs 30W in idle. A Core i7 4770k + Geforce Titan combo needs 60W in desktop mode. 80W is too much for a games console. GCN has great power saving modes and the Jaguars don't need much power anyway. Sounds like a software problem to me. I think they will fix it with a firmware update.
This isn't a netbook class CPU. It employs the same architecture as AMD's netbook CPU's but it's got 8 cores instead of the typical 1 or 2 found in a netbook.
How many transistors does the duct tape take up? (joking)No. They've duct taped 2 4-core jaguar blocks (the ones they'll be using for those lower end laptops) together in the APu along with heir respective Gpus
For reference:
(these measurements are at 1m)
So yeah, not super quiet. Definitely much better than a launch PS3, but not quiet.
For those saying by the time they pick there's up there'll be a slimmer more efficient model: is that even possible this time?
Seems to me that the PS4 can't really be made any smaller. You've got bits like the HDD and Blu-Ray drive that simply cannot go any smaller, and the motherboard is already concise.
Anyone feel Sony will struggle to get out a better model?
For those saying by the time they pick there's up there'll be a slimmer more efficient model: is that even possible this time?
Seems to me that the PS4 can't really be made any smaller. You've got bits like the HDD and Blu-Ray drive that simply cannot go any smaller, and the motherboard is already concise.
Anyone feel Sony will struggle to get out a better model?
db is not the same as dbA: http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/A-weighted-decibels-dBA-or-dBa-or-dBa
So, not comparable.
The fastest 32nm AMD Richland APU needs 30W in idle. A Core i7 4770k + Geforce Titan combo needs 60W in desktop mode. 80W is too much for a games console. GCN has great power saving modes and the Jaguars don't need much power anyway. Sounds like a software problem to me. I think they will fix it with a firmware update.
They can make the power supply external, and reduce the size of the motherboard, so yes, a smaller PS4 is possible.
Oh Ffs.....
45degrees is pretty damn warm! Thank God it's pumping that OUT of the console.
netbook class, lol...........
Wat?
My Core i5 Quad Core idles at 1.6GHz at 31 celsius with an all in one watercooler with 2x 140mm fans in push and pull in a case with 2x 200mm fans and several other 140mm fans.
At load my CPU pushes out 50 celsius and GPU 70 celsius.
PS4 APU (CPU+GPU) in a tiny package at load is at 45 celsius, that's quite a feat.
45degrees is pretty damn warm! Thank God it's pumping that OUT of the console.
At load my CPU pushes out 50 celsius and GPU 70 celsius.
PS4 APU (CPU+GPU) in a tiny package at load is at 45 celsius, that's quite a feat.
Why are you comparing temperatures directly from thermal diodes inside core of cpu to whatever eurogamer is measuring ?
I know its a terrible comparison I just don't get why people are saying it's too hot and uses too much power.