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Resetera reflects: This place sucks. We want GAF back.

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Damage Inc

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Era is trash. It’s an Authoritative Dictatorship run by the Crazies. I never signed up there because I knew the worst of what GAF became would all flock there. Look what happened, can’t even have a discussion there, it’s a big Reeefest. They represent what the far left crazies would be if they had too much power.

Tho I will say I like the new political forum here. It takes the 10 posters who do nothing but make threads about the other side and constantly try to one up each other on the outrage and puts them in their own area.
 
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Neogaf brought to the world shoe on head, multi-coloured gang bang meme, hot dog eating contest ban bet ect, Those threads would last what a few posts on Restera. That forum will never attain the greatness Neogaf has.
 

Orpheum

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I've never enjoyed reading and talking on gaf more ever since this cesspool of hate and hypocrisy called ResetEra formed
 

Damage Inc

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sorry man. Just stop bothering with that place. My brother is a prisoner over there and he wants to speak his mind, but is afraid to do so. That place breeds fear.
He can just like close the web browser and be free. Unless he likes the fear or the threads about dudes in dresses pegging things or something to that extent lol.

That place is pathetic but it is funny to what them get all freaked out, I would pay to watch some of them try to function in the real world.
 

llien

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Who knew a forum made up of the cesspool of old GAF would be so bad?
Welp, a poster said it has more content (it's too depressive for me, as someone brought up under commies, to see the western version of painfully the same intolerance/misusing power to oppress "wrongthink"... I've checked it in the beginning, but stopped visiting it shortly after) and is more interesting read in general, but voicing your opinion is scary.
Neo NeoGaf has no problems with opinion, but needs more interesting content.

So, perfect forum would have more content like on "that site", and non-agenda driven moderation, like on this site.
Which of the two are more likely to get to that state? :)

Overall, I think NGAF is becoming more active and has more content day by day, and hopefully this trend will continue.
 
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sponk

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Not to be that guy, but didn't the other thread exist to contain the resetera talk?

I like watching this dumpster fire of a forum burn as much as the next guy, but you know ...
 
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royox

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Personally I think those posters should be banned for misogyny, downplaying transphobia, and arguing in bad faith. Oh and history of infractions
I love the "drive by" bans lol
 
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ResetEra started out cool, so many friendly people and the mods and staff happily communicated and even discussed warnings and bans, openly or via email!

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Not anymore, eggs shells everywhere and far worse than NeoGAF ever was.

Trump Derangement Syndrome epidemic rampant.

So many topics about being poor, depressed, anxiety ridden, racism microagressions, etc

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It’s really bad, and why isn’t it? All the toxic cancer representing NeafGAF besides Evilore himself moved there just to be triggered over and over again. What happened to it being a new site? Too bad!

Lol

Anyway, at least this site got a kickass update and I’m hopeful for its new future.
 

Kenpachii

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The site owner and moderation team are nuts. They ban spree anybody that doesn't agree with there extremists views is insane. There is no discussion possible over there. You agree or you get banned without being able to defend your point even remotely. So you either agree or not say anything. Which is in itself a fear culture which will result in more and more extremist people that will go after eachother at some point and eventually the death of the site which is already starting to happen.

I wonder who the owner is however in real life, i wouldn't be suprised if its this massive left wing us extremist nut and that's why he/she/it doesn't want us to know he/she/it identity. Because through moderation its clear they are insanely delusional and most of all the biggest hypocrites in the world. They ban people for doing something while they do themselves it ever single day.

Most developers already pulled the plug on the site as far as i know. It does fly well with some sony studio's i guess. Until they start to pull knives of there studio which won't take long before that happens.
 
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Trump Derangement Syndrome epidemic rampant.
It's sad how people let this shit get to them like that.

"Obama Derangement Syndrome" was certainly a real thing too, some people on the right side took things too far, got a little too out there and detached from reality, but now the left has doubled down big time on Trump Derangement Syndrome.

People in general need to calm the fuck down, is this what America boils down to? Half the country losing its minds whenever there's a President who isn't part of their chosen party? Get a fucking grip.
 

Sygma

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Peak GAF was post 911 GWB/early Obama GAF. We had a good decade or so run there.

I’m not entirely sold on either Resetera or NuGAF at this point. I like the new approach to moderation here, but too many of the threads devolve to “why are liberals ruining the world”. Resetera has more content and generally is a more interesting read, but I’m scared to post anything there.
more interesting read ? on what end, its all about shallow point of views ad nauseam as far as the gaming side is concerned, while everything else on the etcetera section pretty much condone you for living life basically. Plus as a rule, discussions will quickly turn into a bloodborne / dark souls game philosophy rather quickly. Yes, even breath of the wild. Fucking lol. Or witcher 3 for that matter

as far as not getting banned, you're right about that
 
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McCheese

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I didn't like the old neogaf, and I dont like the new resetera. Feels like it's the same cycle repeating itself.

But this neogaf is actually a good place to express yourself, don't think I posted anywhere near as much with my old lurker accounts. Sure there are folks I don't agree with but that's half the charm of it. I don't miss the old hive mind one bit.
 

betrayal

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From time to time i read era and some topics are cool. But the narrow-minded moderation and diversity of opinion is not something, that you can find over there. So it's some kind of constricted era i do not miss.

I really like the new GAF. You can talk and discuss with people, who clearly other opinions and views of the world and that's just great.
 
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Snoopycat

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" I'm a political guy, I'm a black dude, we live in the Trump Age, so obviously I like to engage in political discussions and serve shit to racist and fascists."

This sound good and I don't want to be harsh but if that's the main place he's posting on then the guy's not "serving shit to racists and fascists." He might be talking shit about racists and fascists which is good, but he's not engaging with any racists or fascists on that place. Not unless they had a radical sea change since the last time I looked at it
 
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xrnzaaas

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The site owner and moderation team are nuts. They ban spree anybody that doesn't agree with there extremists views is insane. There is no discussion possible over there. You agree or you get banned without being able to defend your point even remotely. So you either agree or not say anything. Which is in itself a fear culture which will result in more and more extremist people that will go after eachother at some point and eventually the death of the site which is already starting to happen.

I wonder who the owner is however in real life, i wouldn't be suprised if its this massive left wing us extremist nut and that's why he/she/it doesn't want us to know he/she/it identity. Because through moderation its clear they are insanely delusional and most of all the biggest hypocrites in the world. They ban people for doing something while they do themselves it ever single day.

Most developers already pulled the plug on the site as far as i know. It does fly well with some sony studio's i guess. Until they start to pull knives of there studio which won't take long before that happens.
I have to agree with the first paragraph, specifically with the part about having to stay quiet if you disagree with their views. I've moved from GAF to ERA because all of my buddies went there, but I think I'll be going back. The week long ban for a pretty harmless joke (someone's got a huge stick up their ass) helped in making that decision. ;)
 

Mahadev

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I'm afraid GAF, I'm afraid that these crazies will implode and return here. This forum might be slower moving compared to its peak (but much better compared to last year btw) but holy shit, especially now with the politics subsection this is such a cool, fun and laid back community. This might sound like a ridiculous, even funny standard but not one person tried to witchhunt here for months or look into my post history for evidence of wrongthink. This is how bad things were.

I know you guys like making fun of resetera but it serves an invaluable purpose now, it keeps all the nutjobs committed to that place, you guys might dislike that site but I wholeheartedly support it for that reason. Long live resetera!
 

TBiddy

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Mods over at Era are arseholes, the whole place is a pit for the worst of the gaming community. I have an account but I've only posted a handful of times since it's openind. I cannot stand the majority of the people there.
No worries. The majority of the people here don't like you either <3
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

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Interesting reading your perspective as an older member. I'm a bit unsure about whether the bolded is actually representative of the forum, mostly because at least from the political compass thread, we seem to be mostly liberals. I do agree that it's a shame in the instances where "libtard" and "liberals <insert generalization>" occur, but a lot of us quickly call out to it and at most we try to avoid liberal vs conservative as an identity, but instead argue issues and principles. If anything I'd say we are generally beyond typical American partisanship, having a diverse amount of people of different opinions. I mean, just look at the Politics sub-forum, quite a varied angle on the various topics.
Getting people to talk together again, moving away from polarization, allowing for both critique and dumb fun, allowing people to debate furiously, but keep things at a reciprocal civility. Not isolating into small communities of those who think like you, but rather meeting various people. That's kind of how forums used to be, a place where people with one interest gathered, but also discussed numerous things they disagreed with, while also sharing a sense of fellowship and an internal humor.

In a way, I think people have gotten too attached to the online communities, trapped in dependency and a sunk cost fallacy. From my experience growing up with the internet and numerous online communities, it's mostly just been a means to meet other people and talk with people, whether you agree or disagree with them. I'd say the best thing about "NuGAF" is that it has the potential to be anything you want to grow it into, due to you as a participant being far more valuable and important, influencing the discourse and the environment.
I like the ideals you're mentioning, but I don't think this forum is there yet. There are still a lot of posters who see everything through the identity politics lens. The recent Star Wars Ep 8 thread was mind blowing for me, but in hindsight not that surprising considering how polarised and crazy things have gotten recently. Even the hate towards Resetera is a symptom of this, since generally speaking this forum tends to lean one way and that one leans the other on the political spectrum. Resetera isn't a "cesspool" - they have a lot of good posters over there. But ultimately, I'm going to have to stand by my original statement - neither forum is perfect, although I do feel much more comfortable posting on NuGAF.

more interesting read ? on what end, its all about shallow point of views ad nauseam as far as the gaming side is concerned, while everything else on the etcetera section pretty much condone you for living life basically. Plus as a rule, discussions will quickly turn into a bloodborne / dark souls game philosophy rather quickly. Yes, even breath of the wild. Fucking lol. Or witcher 3 for that matter

as far as not getting banned, you're right about that
Your post is a little hard to understand, but what I mean is that Resetera is a far more active forum and discussions tend to cover a greater breadth of topics. There was a time where reading GAF frequently obviated the need to have a news feed, but the discussion has become far narrower in scope now. Until the recent splitting of the political threads (which was a great move), it seemed like almost all of the threads in OT on NuGAF had something to do with Trump or the left. Hopefully as the membership recovers and the mods can do their best to keep overtly political discussions out of OT (at least initially), this will change.
 
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Mahadev

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Were you the individual who identified as a helicopter? I'd like to think so.:pie_beaming_smiling:

Stop with this a bigoted and neonazi dogwhistling. I read your post history of the last 6 months and on June 16th 5:56 PM you said you "like dogs". Of course you do you scumbag, Hitler liked dogs too. You disgust me.
 
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JordanN

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Took me a minute to digest that. Is that what all was being spammed back then? Yeah, this is proof that “spare the rod, spoil the child” still holds true.
The worst part about that picture, I recall the average Gaffer is suppose to be 29-34 years old.

So it wasn't teenagers/children who went around spamming hate and porn when Neogaf came back online. It was full grown adults throwing child-like temper tantrums on the internet.
 
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Stop with this a bigoted and neonazi dogwhistling. I read your post history of the last 6 months and on June 16th 5:56 PM you said you "like dogs". Of course you do you scumbag, Hitler liked dogs too. You disgust me.
Such vile accusations.:pie_open_mouth: I nearly spit out my liver dumplings.
 

caffeware

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Not to be that guy, but didn't the other thread exist to contain the resetera talk?

I like watching this dumpster fire of a forum burn as much as the next guy, but you know ...
Sorry, honestly didn't know there's a thread for that.

I'm afraid GAF, I'm afraid that these crazies will implode and return here.
I think "the crazies" are a minority. Many sane members left because it was an event. No one wanted to miss the experience.
We need (most) communities back.
 
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RokkanStoned

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I like the ideals you're mentioning, but I don't think this forum is there yet. There are still a lot of posters who see everything through the identity politics lens. The recent Star Wars Ep 8 thread was mind blowing for me, but in hindsight not that surprising considering how polarised and crazy things have gotten recently. Even the hate towards Resetera is a symptom of this, since generally speaking this forum tends to lean one way and that one leans the other on the political spectrum. Resetera isn't a "cesspool" - they have a lot of good posters over there. But ultimately, I'm going to have to stand by my original statement - neither forum is perfect, although I do feel much more comfortable posting on NuGAF.
I see you mention this, but that's why I'm wondering if it's really representative of this forum, as I feel like it has become rather balanced and the Politics sub-forum does reflect both left and right of the spectrum political contributions. I wouldn't say identity politics is a problem in itself, but the manifestation once it goes authoritarian, as I'm very much used to writing in the perspective of minority politics.
What's the Star Wars Ep 8 thing? All I know is that it's generally disliked. I never watched it, as I disliked Ep 7 and felt it was just an ok movie and a bad sign for Star Wars. My wife did watch it and she loved Ep 7, but felt 8 was more "meh".
The hate for ResetEra is kind of more understandable, although as I've mentioned in numerous of my posts about the subject, there's a reason why a lot of people not interested in the drama went to ResetEra and it's not out of malice. I assume some people dislike the concept of ResetEra, while there's also some that feel a sense of abandonment, though I feel it's a bit unjust to take it out of people who just wanted an active forum to talk about games and interests. Most of us have said that those carrying resentment have to get over it and blame the ones that instigated and accept the errors EviLore had done as well. EviLore has been rather humble about the many mistakes he made, perhaps being even a bit forgiving to those I'd personally consider being behind a lot of what happened (seeing as I was reading everything real-time, before it blew up, and seeing the scheming). Then again, had EviLore acted differently during the turmoil, it'd definitely have been different. That said, considering what we know, it must've been an unbelievable pressure on him, seeing the earlier screenshot and then considering how EviLore has never been good at writing something short.
I definitely disagree on the "leans on x side of the political spectrum", as that's rather more easily falsifiable. First of all, there's some data in terms of the political compass thread, allowing us to see that indeed most people here are still left or centrist. The other part is of course just the fact that EviLore is a libertarian leftist. And lastly on this forum, you can be "liberal" or "conservative" and you'll find people arguing each side. While on ResetEra. So I'd say it's very much not the case that there's a large leaning here, but rather that it's so far out at ResetEra, that it might appear as being the opposite here due to the contrast.

But yeah, I agree, and I imagine most here agree as well, that there are a lot of good posters there, but they're still under the thumb of those who exercise either formal or informal authority there. On the other parts, I guess we'll just disagree on some of it, but it's interesting to see your perspective.
 

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I don't mind chatting to some of the nutters. But when they start calling you a misogynist like some hysterical female every five mins, I want them to stay in the bubble.

To say it's not fun is your own doing. They aren't contractually obliged to just use Reeeee. They could easily go to another forum but are terrified of being pilgrims in a foreign land.
The ones with the real stick up their asses won't come back here because Evilores wrong doings was worse than Watergate apparently.

They want fun but can't handle a bit of banter and ribbing.
Nobody would want to waste their time or energy on people who haven't the slightest idea of how general people go about day to day without bringing up racism, sexism or any other isms.

Of course the site is no fun. The holier than thou mods that ran this place and made it shit tier boring went and made their own site with absolute free reign.
I was happy to find out Evilore had a working dick and wanted to make use of it on what seemed like a sure thing.
I knew full well the moment that thread broke that they would all have to ditch the site in order to maintain absolute respect for Jesus wamen.

You reap what you sow lads.
 

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I have been reading resetera daily ever since it first started...I regret that I assumed it was basically the same as Neogaf L....I felt like...wow, what has happened?

Honestly, I am considered a liberal by most people, but by RESETERA standards I am alt right...because I like Joe Rogan and I don't hate some of the more moderate Republicans in the US....

They have such a hostile and toxic atmosphere there...like most of the posters reply with:

"Fuck ______!!" and "_______ is a piece of shit" referring to the collider crew, John Campea, Joe Rogan, John McCain, David Duke, Bill Maher, Khamala Harris, Joe Biden, or Trump...

It's like geez when did millenials become so black and white? Have we regressed?

Then I started coming back here recently and realized....RESETERA was maybe influencing me and that they don't reflect the typical millenial liberal.

RESETERA also hates redlettermedia / plinkett now....claims redlettermedia is an alt right channel...W..T...F?!?!
 

fantomena

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Don't we already have a thread about ERA here on GAF? Wasn't the reason for that thread to not talk about ERA outside of that thread?
 

captainraincoat

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And these are the people who moved over to there....not really hard to join the dots to see why its turned into a shithole....and that's before you get into the completley biased moderation standards which if your not a trans trump hating social justice warrior...you are on the shit list.

Just hope if they dont come flooding back here and bring the shit that made this site and that site a toxic place
 

Geki-D

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It's funny now, but that was literally GAF not too long ago and people on other sites saw GAF in exactly the same way as we see ERA now. Glad that side was purged, let it never return.
 
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Comedy is based in truth, and Purple GAF is unhinged from reality. It’s not surprising that place is a humorless shithole.
 
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