Because they are dedicated to the destruction of the human species by the end of this century. They are possibly the most efficient and effective organisation ever devised for this purpose.
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Silicon Valley leaders U-turn on Donald Trump
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Because they are dedicated to the destruction of the human species by the end of this century. They are possibly the most efficient and effective organisation ever devised for this purpose.
DontBeThatGuy
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Yeah, you live with it, but you can do other things as well. I'm not particularly interested in anyone normalizing a candidate like this. You either stick to the "he's terrible, fear-mongered, and emboldened the worst of us", or you lack balls and say let bygones be bygones, forget about the disgusting circus you just put us through.
I choose the former, and I hope the anti-trump passion/energy we're seeing continues untethered.. Republicans can get bent, just like they essentially said to Obama 8 years ago, when he set records in the popular vote. (unlike Trump, who lose it)
quickwhips
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I wasn't talking about trump just republicans. Everyone has lumped everything into one category when people are way more complex.
What the fuck? Every company in America should take a political stand to have principles? I don't think companies and politics should be mixed. Saying "congratulations" is about as neutral as it gets. It's acknowledging the change, getting ready for what it might be. Shit, if I was running a company, I'd make sure our stance on the entire thing was "Congratulations, president elect", whatever my personal feelings might be. He's soon president of your country. You shouldn't not respect your president, because he is the sum of a democratic process. Refusing to respect him, is refusing to respect the people.
Nothing is apolitical.
It was a different small group of rich people who already wanted to secede for reasons unrelated to Trump.
As always, you are employing selective reading and responding.
These men publically took a side against Trump when it seemed to suit them.
They have publically taken a stance and backtracked what hey previously said because it suits them.
They put themselves in this position.
Let's be real. The biggest reason Silicon Valley was so pissed off is Trump was talking tough on H-1B visas. Trump will end up doing nothing about the abuse in the H-1B visa program and if anything will just help them make it more common.
Just like how people act like the Silicon Valley twats who originally talked about turning California into a bunch of new states based on poverty/rich lines etc. yet now they are now suddenly great citizens because they talk secession.
These people do what benefits their wallets.
Just like how people act like the Silicon Valley twats who originally talked about turning California into a bunch of new states based on poverty/rich lines etc. yet now they are now suddenly great citizens because they talk secession.
These people do what benefits their wallets.
Angelus Errare
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They saw those tax breaks and was like "hm...yea he's cool in our books."
I see your Strawman and raise you one Argument by Dismissal.
Ah that makes more sense.
Then why are the Republicans who support Trump still Republicans? Even if they don't leave the party, why don't they speak against him and his policies publicly?
Sitting aside and being silent is acceptance.
I really don't think all Republican are racists. Indeed, most probably voted for Trump for economical reasons. But that they never condemn the racism, xenophobia, sexism, that the campaign was run on... that implies they accept it.
The could just stand up and say they're against that.
But i don't see that. All i see are people who ignore that while being OK with Trump, or worse, try to "explain" the anti-minority stances.
djplaeskool
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It's not an argument.
It's simply a dismissal.
I have no time to teach you comprehension.
Actually working for equality and rights for all is much more pressing.
Meanwhile, you built a straw man, admitted it, and tried to place the burden of proof of your ignorance on me. Nah. No time for you and your bullshit.
And that, right there, is why OUR candidate lost.
UnemployedVillain
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I think some of you are trying to spin this isn't something it isn't. I don't think this is an acceptance of Trump, his viewpoints, or what he represents. Rather, it's an acceptance that whatever they want to achieve, if it involves the President, will involve Trump
It is completely misplaced, though. The fuck good will come out of fighting an election that's already lost? There's something terribly wrong about the US, and it is what lead to Trump being able to become your president. That's some shit you should fix. But, suck it up, you lot. This is your guy. He's a bigoted, loudmouthed, shortsighted, egocentric cheesedoodle. He was elected by your democratic process, and that democratic process stands arguably even higher than your first amendment. Get with the times and accept that your democracy, which is the foundation of any free country, has chosen Trump. Respect that. Disagree with his policies, but don't force it on everyone else to have to stand up against him.
Do you have any idea for how many years the rest of the world has had to look on as you lot have continued to give more and more to the richest people? How terrible we feel it is to see your laughable health-care system and how terrible it is to know that people go medically bankrupt on a scale never before known to man? To have falling ill be a stress in even a financial sense? To not be able to afford medicines? To see people struggling to make ends meet while working three jobs and never seeing their kids?
Take it from the rest of the world: Wake up and smell the coffee, your country was shitty for a long time, and it has culminated in fucking Donald Trump being your president. Get with it. He's there for at least four years. Suddenly it's the responsibility of every company to take a stance opposing Trump? Despite him winning the democratic process? Why? Why is this suddenly not OK, but the repeal of Glass Steagall isn't outrageous? Why is the fact that the American people voting for a bigot suddenly something companies have to react to? Why the hell should companies suddenly be responsible for shit while they have been allowed to lobby their assess of for nearly two decades?
There's nothing against principles behind fucking not being vocally against Trump.
GameAddict411
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Trump will help their multimillion corporations more than Hillary with his tax breaks. It's not shocking if they start endorseing him.
Keep dismissing any person who challenges your ideas as an ignorant bigot and we'll be looking at 8 years of Trump.
Kill Your Masters
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But SV companies donate to political parties. They are political. Peter Thiel is board member of Facebook, has donated 1.25 million to the Trump campaign and may even join the cabinet in some way. (at the least he gets a favor from the most powerful man in the world)
Astaleview
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Sound like yall want them to do something extreme. If you were in their position what would you do?
All which makes tremendous sense while not being against their principles. It makes sense to fight the good fight, but what the hell kind of good will come from them continue to fight it, now that the election is over? Can't you lot just accept that he won? Respect that he won, because that is respecting your democratic process. They didn't want Trump to be president, but he's won. The right thing to do is congratulate the winner, because you not agreeing with who is elected has fucking nothing to do with the fact that he has now won. There's nothing against anyone's principles to congratulate on that.
With great power (and privilege) comes great responsibility. The responsibility to speak out when a fascist is elected leader of your country and his policies threaten to end the human species. Especially when the only reason not to do so is to make more money. And ESPECIALLY when your business model of hoovering up people's data puts them in danger at that man's hands.
George Washington
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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Would I still be me just with money, or with the added complexion shield
Angelus Errare
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Remember, pointing out racism is worst than actual racism. Pointing out racism and hate is the reason they voted Trump! Stop complaining that Trump made really racist/sexist/homophobic statements; we're all in this together, compromise and put your feelings aside and understand their feelings!
'MERICA!
Congratulating him and speaking out against his ideals and principles are not mutually exclusive. I addressed that.
It is in part. Facebook did nothing to stop the flood of Macedonian misinformation from propagating.
Oppose Trump:
Donate and support organizations that are against bigotry, racism, xenophobia, etc. Be public about it.
Publicly denounce Trump's and Republican's policies, specifically the aforementioned ones. Hell, if they don't say anything about economic ones, whatever, my issue is social equality more so than economics.
When money talks, that puts pressure on politicians.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Why are there so many angry white dudes from outside the US hellbent on telling us to suck it up for Trump?
There's going to be fallout for you all too.
There's going to be fallout for you all too.
"With great power comes great responsibility" is abused when it is attempted to mean that all influential people need to use their influence for some greater good. I admire those that do, but it is not Facebook's responsibility to be opposed to Trump. It is myopic to say that it is only out of self-interest that they do something as fucking basic as congratulating someone on their victory.
This is really silly.
Puck Beaverton
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This election I learned that bigots can time travel.
"Those minorities called me a bigot. I better go back in time and become a bigot."
entremet
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It's this.
Most of these guys don't care for more money.
Bezos could retire today and live a life of luxury until death. Same with Tim Cook, Nadella, and Zuck.
But speaking out against his principles makes a lot of sense during a campaign. It doesn't make sense to do that in the time we're in. They have said what they wanted to say about Trump. They shouldn't have to repeat it every day for it still to stand. Congratulating him also doesn't cancel out what they've previously said.
Scientist Supreme!
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You seem to have employed selective reading.
They didn't just say "Congratulations Trump."
Yes, they should have reiterated their original stances post election, but they didn't because we know they don't actually care.
We get it. You voted for Trump.
"Don't'chu dare call me a bigot, you fucking less-than-me minority. I might actually become a bigot."
Tal Shiar Agent
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Trump probably has zero aversion to taking bribes.
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