Good. I know I am not going to stop pointing out how terrible he is for the next four years. Can't be complacent!
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Good. I know I am not going to stop pointing out how terrible he is for the next four years. Can't be complacent!
EmpressInYellow
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...really? I don't see it.
Barack Obama is an incredible speaker.
Trump sounds like a late night infomercial huckster.
Frozenprince
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Korey said this on DT the other day.
Why the fuck you so angry for? You won.
Why the fuck you so angry for? You won.
A lot of hope that they learned their lesson flew out the window the other day when they elected Pelosi to head them again. She's delivered nothing but acres of ceded ground in terms of Democratic representation. Her name is spit like a swear word among conservatives just like Hillary and she's the personified caricature of a spacy, ineffectual west coast liberal elite that the other side wants to paint all Dems as. Founded or unfounded, you can not ignore these optic problems and act like they don't matter. Putting her as the face of the party again is exactly the head-in-the-sand, "She's unpopular, sure, but nobody could possibly think the other side is better, right?" kind of appointment that gave us President Trump.
Obama is an incredible speaker, perhaps the best there is. Trump is up there though. Their styles could not be more different so it's hard to compare. Obama is powerful and moving while Trump is extremely personal like he's having a direct conversation right next to you.
Empyrean Heaven
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oops
SoRuffShoNuff
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How to connect with people instead of trying to win with 100 point plans and websites.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I should hope that there's a better model in politics to achieve that other than demagoguery and lying.
The majority of people did vote for the other person
I would hope that policies that actually benefit people would be enough to connect with them, not fucking them while wearing a friendly smile.
Why does anyone vote based on who they would rather have a beer with?
SoRuffShoNuff
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You don't have to lie but you better find a way to connect to people in ways other than telling them to go to your website.
EmpressInYellow
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Sure, you don't have to lie - you can also affirm their existing biases and play to their worst impulses.
SoRuffShoNuff
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It's not. Policy doesn't win elections, connecting with the voters does. Voters in the rust belt felt like Trump understood their problems and at least paid them lip service. Hillary didn't even show up to Wisconsin.
"Trust me, I'm gonna get your jobs back" is a lot easier for people to understand than the actual nuts and bolts of economic policy, even if there's nothing underpinning it. This election really felt a lot to me like one of those TV episodes with a student body president election between a jock and a nerd in a lot of ways.
Just, y'know, the blowhard didn't step down when he realized he was over his head because this is the real world.
Karsticles
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You must be new to America.
He's going to run his entire presidency like a re-election campaign. He's going to win.
Twenty7KVN
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Michelle Obama is better than both of them.
Hey, you shouldn't lump all voters in the rust belt into that shit. Ive lived in the rust belt my whole lives, and myself and many others weren't fooled by a pandering liar.
I also never once felt like trump understood my problems, seeing as he's a fucking billionaire. If others are that naive and ignorant, so be it.
Edit: my gfs parents are the rustbelters you speak of, and they support trump because "he will bring back jobs" but they also believe he started from nothing and climbed to the top, and no amount of proof to the contrary will convince them otherwise. It wasn't the rustbelt that made them vote trump, it was their own stupidity and ignorance.
CoffeeJanitor
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Lying has been pretty effective throughout history tbh
After this election I sure feel like it.
Think about it for a sec.
That's why late-night infomercials have hucksters like Trump.
smokeymicpot
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Yup. Calling himself the man of the people. Shit is gonna get scary.
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Anyone else's read this in JR voice?
beacon 0f light
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As much as I wish David Gergen was giving his own opinion there, the full context of the quote was essentially: "There are two reactions to Trump's speech: (1) this is why i love trump; or (2) I knew I didn't like the son of a bitch."
And Melania is just as good as Michelle.
Vestal
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Trump is not even in the same universe as the Obamas. However, Barrack is still the best there is right now. Michelle is good, but Barry is just too fucking good at owning a crowd with substance, and wit.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Not ready for the first 4.
Atraveller
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Ayyyy
HP_Wuvcraft
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I still think he's gonna get an icy reception to this shit around summer.
The Young Turks used to have a segment called "Loser Trump" where they would argue that he's always been a loser. It really isnt true. Even with all his bankruptcies he seems to have succeeded in everything he has wanted in the end. He's clearly a winner.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
I don't. He just wants to talk. Anything bad that happens will be on Obama. No matter what it is. He will use that for the whole 4 years. People will eat that shit up.
HP_Wuvcraft
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It really depends on what it is.
Beer Monkey
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Well, sure, he's part of the rigged system.
You dont need notes to know that lying to people and being a loud arrogant blowhard will grab a certain audience.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Let's hope so.
Really makes you question everything now. Does our system reward deplorable behavior? Does it promote it?
EmpressInYellow
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Nah. There's such a thing as "failing upwards". The fact that he's in the position that he is doesn't negate his (many, many) failures. It simply means that there are no real consequences for him losing.
I know, they even make the same speeches.
Why do people need facts when they have warm feelings.
Ryzaki009
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It's a truly pathetic state of affairs.
valkillmore
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He is. For 2020.
Trump is the ultimate anti-fragile person: something that gets stronger with each failure, shocking event, controversy, mistake, etc.
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