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Tom Warren: Insiders are backpedaling because not many inside MS know what Phil will say
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Its done guys. It literally makes sense to pivot at this point. Nothing else to say. Series consoles and GP were a last try at a golden age in gaming, and a resurgence of AA diversity, and consumers rejected it.
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TheUndeadGamer
Member
So if even insiders don’t know what’s up than are they really insiders? 
Unknown Soldier
Member
There are Insiders, True Insiders, and Double Secret Probation InsidersSo if even insiders don’t know what’s up than are they really insiders?
In an organization as large and bureaucratic as Microsoft, I'm sure there are multiple tiers of Insiders just like the US Government has like 8 tiers of Top Secret
You had me in the first half.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Imagine if the announcement is that they're acquiring Playstation from Sony.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Try the games on PS5. They're pretty good. It'll be too late but better late than never.
reinking
Gold Member
Or Sega.Imagine if the announcement is that they're acquiring Playstation from Sony.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
And if you are wrong ? Perma bans for everyone who says they are leaving the console business?
GHG
Member
Punished Miku
Gold Member
The mods can ban me anytime they want. I'm on probation until March.And if you are wrong ? Perma bans for everyone who says they are leaving the console business?
Topher
Gold Member
AA diversity has been a thing on PC for a while so I don't think it is fair to say "consumers rejected it". And Series consoles and GP ain't going anywhere so.....
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
He didn't say insiders are backtracking, he's talking about the people insiders who have backtracked.
The rumors started around the time when As Duck Falls was being released on PlayStation and Shinobi said on Resetera that there will be more games released on PlayStation. We have more evidence of Hi-Fi Rush releasing on PS/Switch and Starfield is heavily rumored to be the next game. Insiders have said other games are being "considered," not that they're releasing on PlayStation.
So the full extent is unknown.
People thought Phil debunked the rumors weeks ago, but he there are no plans to release Game Pass on PlayStation or Switch, he never debunked the multiplatform rumors.
Phil hasn't said a word. He often debunks rumors after events, but he remained silent after Xbox Developer Direct. Now there's a Business update next week, which shows a difference in strategy for Xbox. Some insiders were spot on about Microsoft updating people about their strategy and it appears to have been moved up to next week.
The rumors started around the time when As Duck Falls was being released on PlayStation and Shinobi said on Resetera that there will be more games released on PlayStation. We have more evidence of Hi-Fi Rush releasing on PS/Switch and Starfield is heavily rumored to be the next game. Insiders have said other games are being "considered," not that they're releasing on PlayStation.
So the full extent is unknown.
People thought Phil debunked the rumors weeks ago, but he there are no plans to release Game Pass on PlayStation or Switch, he never debunked the multiplatform rumors.
Phil hasn't said a word. He often debunks rumors after events, but he remained silent after Xbox Developer Direct. Now there's a Business update next week, which shows a difference in strategy for Xbox. Some insiders were spot on about Microsoft updating people about their strategy and it appears to have been moved up to next week.
bitbydeath
Member
I hope Tom’s not trying to excuse himself from all this. He was the one asking if people followed him for Xbox news not that long ago.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
At this point, the only thing giving these rumors any credence is MS not flat-out coming out and dismissing them. Even after having made a statement. Or rather, announced an announcement.
Wastelander92
Member
And people will still believe them in the future...
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Post the smug gif from that guy from the office, then I will be fully defeated.
you know the one.
Topher
Gold Member
Post the smug gif from that guy from the office, then I will be fully defeated.
Got one better...
XXL
Member
I mean, that's what the rumors are saying....Imagine if the announcement is that they're acquiring Playstation from Sony.
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
I'm just saying, my position is the same its been for 3 years. MS is pushing AA games or even A games mainstream. That and a cheap console. That to me is a golden age. It got rejected. Even when I agree with you guys I get sass. I know PC exists. It doesnt discount anything I said.Got one better...
GHG
Member
The reality is that AA diversity is not, and never will be contingent or reliant on what Microsoft is doing.
Topher
Gold Member
I ain't giving you sass bro. Just made a point. Take it easy man.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
GP and even MS 1st party elevated AA gaming. I didnt say that is all AA gaming. I just wish people gave me 10% charity to try and hear what I'm saying.
GHG
Member
A and AA games have been hitting the big time on PC for well over a decade now. Microsoft aren't doing anything special in that area, even on their very own consoles the AA and A games get overshadowed by the usual bunch of popular AAA games (as evidenced by the top sellers and most played lists).
As for the "cheap" console, you're very much getting what you pay for as far as hardware capability is concerned. The Switch is "cheap" too (as will Nintendo's next console) and the same applies there.
Like what exactly? Give examples.
bitbydeath
Member
*Pushing AA on AAA budget and timeframe.
Topher
Gold Member
That's fine, but "consumers rejected" is an extremely broad statement. That was my only point. It's fine.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Do it yourself. Look at MS games list.
Save me from these pointless clarifications. Dont agree if you dont. But its clear what I am saying.
Fine. Im talking about consoles in shorthand and generalizing industry trends broadly. Just let me make a point. This is why I bought Series consoles. Sony is all AAA. I literally dont know why I have to fight on even this. Its exhausting.
asdasdasdbb
Member
If I had to guess, this is coming from Satya and he's mad.
Topher
Gold Member
Dude....go to bed.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Literally everyone says Sony won because they have superior AAA games
Fine. I agree that seems to be the market judgement. I say MS is pushing a cheaper console and AA games and everyone acts like Im nuts. Im sick of your smug dismissive attitude. Im saying what I think from my perspective and it doesnt even contradict the mainstream narrative. Tell your fucking kid to go bed. So full of yourself. Im 42.
XXL
Member
XXL
Member
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I dont like being gaslighted. Think whatever you want. What I hate is people calling me liar, disingenuous, or acting like I'm a moron. I will say what I think. Agree or disagree, with basic civility. If I cant even get that basic communication is actually pointless.You kind of pissed off lately Miku.
Del_X
Member
My guess:
- Xbox becomes a semi-open platform that runs windows and Xbox game launcher. They accidentally make Steam machines a thing because you can just install whatever.
- Games released on all platforms basically around the same time
- Some goodies for the Xbox storefront
Also they sue other platforms over the “gatekeeper” EU laws since they make an open platform.
- Xbox becomes a semi-open platform that runs windows and Xbox game launcher. They accidentally make Steam machines a thing because you can just install whatever.
- Games released on all platforms basically around the same time
- Some goodies for the Xbox storefront
Also they sue other platforms over the “gatekeeper” EU laws since they make an open platform.
Mortisfacio
Member
Sony has released one good game (in my opinion) the entire gen, but that was enough to kill Xbox because Microsoft released bad to mid. Sad times.
kyoji
Member
LMFAO noway this is real, dude really thinks gaming and diversity in AA games revolve around gamepass. I had to go look up delusion in websters after reading this.
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JimRyanGOAT
Member
Watch next week their gonna drop a top-tier showcase with hella games and then go on record and say Xbox exclusives will always be home to Xbox and not other consoles and the crowd goes crazy
Media is back on Xbox side
Xbox ends up outselling PS5 30:1 for the next 128 months
Media is back on Xbox side
Xbox ends up outselling PS5 30:1 for the next 128 months
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reinking
Gold Member
Topher
Gold Member
lol....wow. I'm really not sure what it was that I said that got under your skin bro but it ain't worth all this. Sorry for the "go to bed" crack.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
wow Imagine that.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Be strong, buddy. People of your kind are dropping like flies. We need you as we need competition
bender
What time is it?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
MS is putting out more AA games. Its not selling well. I literally didnt say anything controversial at all. This is what bugs me. But fine I'll let it go. My rational point is already muddied and a joke, thanks to you.
kyoji
Member
xbox fandom in a nutshell man, these dudes whole lives 'seem' to revolve around how xbox is perceived, and thats why they take it so hard and things are coming full circle for xbox. All these years of cap'n when the data clearly didnt reflect what these guys were tooting on game forums and twitter in there little echo chambers is now coming to a head and its time to pay the piper.
As i said in another thread a week or so ago, i expect alot of account suicides in the coming weeks.
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