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Windows 10 will force automatic updates and installs on Windows 7/8 Home Users
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Ohhh, nice. Thanks.
Spaced Harrier
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Hmm Win 10 looked laggy on that surface pro 3 on the vide on the verges site.
Won't be upgrading personally at least for a while.
I see no benefit. Win 8 is great on sp3 and touch ie 11 is so good.
Don't want to lose that.
Won't be upgrading personally at least for a while.
I see no benefit. Win 8 is great on sp3 and touch ie 11 is so good.
Don't want to lose that.
For Win7 users like me:
If you have the Windows 10 infomercial icon in your taskbar and want to remove it, follow these steps: ::::Make sure Windows is updated first::::
1. Right click on the task bar and select Start Task Manager.
2. Click on the Processes tab.
3. Find GWX.exe, right click and choose End Process. Close Task Manager.
4. Now go to Windows Update (click on the Start Orb, then All Programs and you'll see it.)
5. On the left side click on View update history
6. At the top click on Installed Updates
7. Find KB3035583 it's usually marked as Important.
8. Right-click KB3035583 and Uninstall.
9. Go back to Windows Updates and click Check for Updates on the left.
10. Click on the 1 important update available.
11. It's KB3035583 again. Right click and choose Hide update.
12. Done!
If you have the Windows 10 infomercial icon in your taskbar and want to remove it, follow these steps: ::::Make sure Windows is updated first::::
1. Right click on the task bar and select Start Task Manager.
2. Click on the Processes tab.
3. Find GWX.exe, right click and choose End Process. Close Task Manager.
4. Now go to Windows Update (click on the Start Orb, then All Programs and you'll see it.)
5. On the left side click on View update history
6. At the top click on Installed Updates
7. Find KB3035583 it's usually marked as Important.
8. Right-click KB3035583 and Uninstall.
9. Go back to Windows Updates and click Check for Updates on the left.
10. Click on the 1 important update available.
11. It's KB3035583 again. Right click and choose Hide update.
12. Done!
FunkyMunkey
Banned
i have literally never declined an update. had a few fail installing and i just googled and eventually hid them, but i'm on 8.1 pro so this won't effect me. i guess i can see how it might for others though in some cases
Or maybe, just maybe we don't have an irrational fear of updates and can spare the min it takes to restart our computer.
Congratulations!
Thanks, it was a real effort. I clicked a few buttons, and wait for restarts. It was almost a herculean effort.
If you think it's an irrational fear you don't have a very good understanding of the history of Windows Updates.
Mango Positive
Member
I just checked... I'm on 8.1 pro. Good times. I'll still update automatically anyway.
Can you please point me to one of these so often mentioned but rarely seen updates that wrecked windows? Most of the time if windows fucks up it's because of A) user error (like people who fuck with registry cleaners), or B) Hardware failure.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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So is there a free alternative for DVD playback since that's gone now?
As someone who works in the security field I don't see a problem with this. This is for clueless people who's computers are always filled with viruses and part of a bot network. Anyone in the professional field or power users (Using Pro) will still be able to differ if they want to. Microsoft has a better track record then Apple lately when it comes to deploying patches without affecting software or the Core OS negatively. It will just keep average consumers safer in the long run.
No? Why would you even think that?
GameAddict411
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I don't have win 10 update icon on my windows 7 oem genuine version? does that mean i can't get windows 10 for free?
There are some that do require a restart but the system will schedule it for a time you don't typically use your device.
The most recent build of the preview of 10 has been pretty awesome.
Unknown Soldier
Member
That thing registers your PC for your free Win10 upgrade. Removing it doesn't seem like a good idea unless you don't want your free copy of Win10.
Plenty. VLC or install a codec pack.
Upsidedown Fuji
Member
If you had media center edition 7 or media center add-on in 8, you'll get an official DVD program. Free software like VLC and Media Player Classic handle disc playback pretty well as well.
Unknown Soldier
Member
You don't want DX12?
Tevious
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That's my biggest complaint about Windows. All the fucking nagging to restart and install updates. I'll do that shit on my own time, Microsoft, so fuck off! If I remember correctly, I even turned it off in the settings and somehow still got nagging prompts to restart and had to look up some workaround to finally make it stop. I just don't understand why they need to do restart nagging. I think a simple notification in the system tray to remind you to restart at your own convenience would be sufficient enough.
Anyway, I'm glad my Surface Pro uses Windows 8.1 Pro so I'm eligible for Windows 10 Pro. That would have been a deal-breaker for me. My desktop PC uses Windows 7 Home Edition, but I only use that PC for gaming and other tasks that require more processing power, so I don't care about only getting Windows 10 Home on it.
Anyway, I'm glad my Surface Pro uses Windows 8.1 Pro so I'm eligible for Windows 10 Pro. That would have been a deal-breaker for me. My desktop PC uses Windows 7 Home Edition, but I only use that PC for gaming and other tasks that require more processing power, so I don't care about only getting Windows 10 Home on it.
whatsinaname
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Mar 2013 - KB2670838
http://www.winbeta.org/news/botched-update-kb2670838-windows-7-resulting-bsod-microsoft-working-fix
Nov 2013 - KB2862330
http://www.infoworld.com/article/26...0-triggers-bsod-0x000000d1-or-0x000000ca.html
Aug 2014
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...to-uninstall-blue-screen-of-death-update.html
Druz
Member
11 steps, and yet all you actually have to do is
1) Click small arrow
2) Click customize
3) Select "Hide notifications and icon"
The Abominable Snowman
Member
I know people are gonna cry and whatnot, but most decent PCs (The ones using Core i5 and up processors and have decent specs) are Pro. This mostly affects cheapie PCs like my mom's 200 dollar Acer. People with cheap computers tend to not know how to avoid viruses and malicious code. I'm not against this.
Oh come on. Delaying updates suddenly doesn't make you a botnet. Your browser is the most likely thing that'll make you a botnet.
The Abominable Snowman said:
Hardware != OS/Software, bro.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Oh come on. Delaying updates suddenly doesn't make you a botnet. Your browser is the most likely thing that'll make you a botnet.
Hardware != OS/Software, bro.
His statement still isn't wrong. Most people don't know what they have but they usually don't cheap out on licenses so if you have a pretty decent laptop it's pretty safe to assume you have pro version. You're not getting an ultrabook and then having Home installed on it. He never said software = hardware.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Not necessarily, since Windows 7 Pro didn't really offer any significant advantages over Home Premium compared to previous versions.
And Windows has defaulted to automatically downloading and installing updates for years now so nothing changes for "ma and pa computers." The issue is that they are arbitrarily removing the option to have control over how your system is updated.
Oracle Dragon
Member
Critical updates are fine to force. People not wanting critical security updates because "I hate rebooting its unacceptable" boggle the mind. I don't think it would start shovelling all the optional stuff down on you. If it does, that part needs to change, but definitely critical updates should be forced.
That's fine, but how many good updates did they put out in the same timeframe? Overall they do a pretty solid job with their patches.
"I don't want to install this fix for a known exploitable vulnerability, because the patch might have a bug in it! You know what they say... 'better the bug that you know'...". Insanity! I've got one Windows system in the house and everything else is Linux, I'd never dream of leaving my Windows box unpatched
That's fine, but how many good updates did they put out in the same timeframe? Overall they do a pretty solid job with their patches.
"I don't want to install this fix for a known exploitable vulnerability, because the patch might have a bug in it! You know what they say... 'better the bug that you know'...". Insanity! I've got one Windows system in the house and everything else is Linux, I'd never dream of leaving my Windows box unpatched
whatsinaname
Member
Critical updates are fine to force. People not wanting critical security updates because "I hate rebooting its unacceptable" boggle the mind. I don't think it would start shovelling all the optional stuff down on you. If it does, that part needs to change, but definitely critical updates should be forced.
That's fine, but how many good updates did they put out in the same timeframe? Overall they do a pretty solid job with their patches.
"I don't want to install this fix for a known exploitable vulnerability, because the patch might have a bug in it! You know what they say... 'better the bug that you know'...". Insanity! I've got one Windows system in the house and everything else is Linux, I'd never dream of leaving my Windows box unpatched
He asked for examples and I provided them.
I do have automatic updates turned on. But I also like to have an option where the updates are downloaded and I have to give my permission to install them. I would rather take the risk of being unprotected for the two days I need wait to see if there are reports about issues with the update. You might consider it a foolish risk, but it should be my option.
I use 8.1, my updates aren't forced. The log in screen informs me I have updates I can download and install and I can choose to do that whenever I want. It is pretty much ideal.
By "significant" are you stating that domain membership and encryption aren't? Pro always had what Microsoft knew was the best version of Windows to cover all sorts of scenarios. To my point tho, removing the option of deferring updates will work better for the home versions as it gets rid of the zero-day exploits that MS has in their ecosystem. That said, Pro users are usually savvy enough to know which updates to cherry pick to keep safe.
All in all, this strategy makes sense for their platform moving forward.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Am I missing something, because OP's thread title makes no sense. It isn't forcing you to update to Windows 10 with an automatic update. Windows 10 Home user's have to get automatic updates (which sucks in and of itself since I've had updates crash my computer before). Pro user's can opt out of the automatic updates.
You are losing some features that some may find useful but it's mainly fluff.
If you upgrade to Windows 10. Windows 7 and 8 aren't affected.
You are losing some features that some may find useful but it's mainly fluff.
If you upgrade to Windows 10. Windows 7 and 8 aren't affected.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
It's not rebooting in and of itself. It's rebooting when windows wants you to reboot. And you must tell it within a certain amount of seconds to fuck off for a while, but it'll keep coming back. Why there is no "Fuck off until I tell you I'm going to bed then do whatever the fuck you want" option I do not know, other than to piss people off and encourage them to shell out a hundred bucks for a pro edition they don't need. I think the risk of 10-14 hours without the update probably isn't going to be life and death for the majority of people who actually care about not rebooting the computer right that damn minute.
Sky Interloper
Member
I think that behavior was gone with Windows 8. Nowadays a message appears that Windows has pending updates, and if you don't install them then, after some days there will be a notice (I think in the lock screen) that the next shutdown or restart will install those updates.
I'm pretty sure those notifications don't appear since then, as I don't remember any since I updated my laptop to Windows 8 back in 2012.
Now that's the real problem, I think an update killed my Vista install in an older laptop I had, so I needed to reinstall the OS.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Apple lets you say "Remind me Tomorrow".
Guess I read it wrong man, is it that hard to believe?
Upsidedown Fuji
Member
Windows 8.1 and 10 both have settings to control downloads and data transmission for metered internet connections. It's not that bad but I sympathize with your kneecapped internet in oz.
TheBryanJZX90
Member
You're fine. The OP was really badly written.
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