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Women who speak in vocal fry perceived as incompetent and less hirable
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Blargonaut
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You see, the... trick is to force them to scream for hours before... 'preparation'. It naturally tenders the meat before... a quick fry in virgin olive oil.
I think I've watched the movies too much :/
Count Dookkake
Member
Good.
It's more annoying than Bobcat Goldthwait in the Police Academy films.
It's more annoying than Bobcat Goldthwait in the Police Academy films.
There was a study recently showing that women were acutely aware (and critical) of other women's attire, especially in the presence of a man. It involved a lab tech in normal dress and in more provocative clothing. The former got no responses, and the latter got really negative ones.
So I can see what you're saying being true. It's something the researchers will have to look into, since you'd expect the reaction from both sexes to be the same.
matrix-cat
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God, it's the worst. Naturally husky voices are incredibly sexy, but forcing that vocal fry sound is so awful.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It is. What she's doing is basically an old "valley girl" impersonation. That's not "Vocal Fry," that's just someone being annoying.
"Vocal Fry" is a weird phenomenon I've only just recently heard about, and it seems like a weird thing to have even NOTICED, much less named and used as a means to prevent hires.
All it appears to mean is that your voice, when occupying a lower register, doesn't actually fill out. You know? It's like when you try to play something bassy through a 3-inch speaker. You know the bass is there, it just can't actually come out. That's what "Vocal Fry" sounds like, to me.
An annoying blonde woman speaking annoyingly via decades-old stereotype is a really shit example of this thing.
edit: Here's the wiki entry on the phenomenon, which specifies Vocal Fry to the extent that it becomes obvious "Vocal Fry" is the name for that sound you used to make on the playground when you played THAT game. You know, the game that Ol Dirty Bastard is playing in this song
Here's a video with some good examples
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/faith-salie-on-speaking-with-vocal-fry/
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/faith-salie-on-speaking-with-vocal-fry/
You are cray cray. This is madness. What the fuck?
I wouldn't expect that.
EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEqVgtLQ7qM
I consider that headache-inducing. Wouldn't want to hire someone like that as well. Oh god, my head.
Yeah, it seems like people are conflating the two. You can have vocal fry without the valley girl.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Not quite the same. Valleyspeak is when you have a rising inflection at the end of a statement so it kinda always sounds like a question of sorts, and they tend to use "like" as a segway and filler...alot. Think the movie Clueless. Many people who voice fry may tend to valleyspeak but they're not really the same as many girls who valleyspeak don't necessarily voice fry. The absolute worse is a country accent with voice fry ugh.
Both however are equally annoying.
terrisus
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ComputerMKII
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This is the vocal fry of written English
Angelus Errare
Banned
Don't worry, it'll be an official word soon enough. Also please use periods at the end of your sentence sir.
terrisus
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On the plus side, "Segway" already is a word!
Angelus Errare
Banned
Segue isn't as cool as segway.
Basically.
Vocal fry has been around for a while, but until recently it was something you encountered mostly with older women. Or so I've read.
Either way, it's annoying. It sounds lazy, and it's not good for your voice long-term.
terrisus
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Segways are much more useful than segues too.
Angelus Errare
Banned
*nods*
terrisus
Member
Although, you could always segue on a Segway.
Ah, so that has a name. I have a coworker who speaks exactly like that, it's... weird as hell.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i dont know what's so bad about it. i feel like making fun of the way people talk and saying outright it is a disorder is unfair.
Maintenance
Member
Didn't know what that was, but now that I now I loathe it.
……forgetit
Member
There is no such thing as an "American accent." I can hear atleast 4-5 different accents in my single state and it's not even that big.
terrisus
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Of course that doesn't stop people from talking about "An English accent"
DarkJediKnight
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I have hired people previously with vocal fry tones and regretted it. I feel like I need to micro manage them to get the job done.
Moral of the story: Don't hire people with vocal fry tones.
Moral of the story: Don't hire people with vocal fry tones.
It's fair if it's done intentionally.
……forgetit
Member
No such thing as that either, but it's easier for people to assume that I guess because the UK is much smaller, the US might as well be multiple countries culturally and geographically.
For the size of the UK, it's actually pretty incredible how many dialects there are. This guy really highlighted it for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpM&sns=em
terrisus
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Not to mention languages specific to the UK, such as Cornish and Welsh and such.
Barbacoatl
Banned
It's great to finally confirm what we've always suspected. Dunces are less desirable.
Some of those videos are overly exaggerated, normal vocal fry doesn't really bother me all too much.
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Prophet Steve
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This is pretty much exactly what it reminded me off, so I assume so.
And, she even is pretty much all of these traits.
ComputerMKII
Banned
Is she on drugs?
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