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WaPo: Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin
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Yo, Yakov wishes he came up with joke
Bob Coffee
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Man WaPo really really wants that second merit badge.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I believe you mean: Treasonously Stupid or Stupidly Treasonous.
That's pretty lame actually. Leaks should not interfere with an active investigation.
Lord Frieza
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'Oh, those Russians!'
Ehhh... All that was mentioned was that leaker must have felt that getting this info out there was more important than possibly burning door into Russian communications. They didn't go after the leaker.
TetraGenesis
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Username1198
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He's not a politician, he's an outsider, so he didn't know he was supposed to file whatever. And more important WHO IS THE LEAKER!?!? Lock that person up not poor Jared
ShironRedshift
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Yeah, that's a good point. Of course, the Kremlin very likely knew that and suspected as much, but nonetheless so brazenly letting that slip is just nuts, so it's no surprise that they were apparently taken aback themselves by how stupid Kushner was being. Russia knew these guys were stupid, but not even they thought they were that stupid.
Lord Frieza
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Someone wants Kushner out, probably, and they want him out bad.
It's not interfering with their investigation necessarily. The people who confirmed this to WaPo thought it important enough to expose their surveillance of a line to Russia.
I think perhaps one scenario is that communications are routinely changed and however this was intercepted is no longer active or giving the IC anything.
Goldenroad
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And any politician trying to help cover this up. The entire republican caucus should be marched into jail single file when this is all over.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
To the old addage "Where there's smoke, there's Fire!", shit needs to be written "Where there's smoke surrounding Trump, It's burned to ground, ashes lay waste!"
VeryGooster
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ErasureAcer
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When do people start rioting in the streets? Let's set up secret channels with the Russians and only the Russians! Guilty!
It makes you wonder what deep shit Trump, Kushner are in that would make them do things like this. Debt is highly possible, Kush has a billion dollar loan which might allude to him being on the edge of going under, we know many banks don't lend money to Trump anymore so is he in debt with Russian backers? Are they just trying to get richer getting into major corruption with Russian billionaires. Do the Russians have blackmail?
Lord Frieza
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I wouldn't put it passed him. Bannon strikes back!
BlackGhost
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Debt and pride
Russians offer to shore up Trump and his business. He keeps his ego, gets some markets opened up, Russians get someone that will soften stances that helps them, and with Trump and his "never say i messed up ever" attitude, he's all the way down to the bottom of the well with his white lie being built up into a monster
Red Arremer
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People keep saying it's the end of the line, but nothing will happen. Trump's supporters will find a way to ignore this in its entirety (even if they just call it fake news or a conspiracy against Trump), and Trump will keep on Trumpin'.
SodiumBenzoate
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Better to ask who ISN'T leaking at this point
I don't know ow how often channels or not are changed. All I'm saying is if it interfered with the investigation at all that's lame, no matter how interesting the information is. The inveatigation is crucial, more important by far than the public knowledge of fuckery happening.
Hopefully Russia had already changed channels before this story went to print.
Alligatorjandro
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Them boys in trouble
Dude we're well past what hardcore Trump supporters think or feel. They are a lost cause.
This goes way beyond them. How his supporters react have no bearing on how Kushner or Trump for that matter will be treated if they committed treason or broke the law.
Emerson
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There ain't no line, we're taking baby steps along a fucking mobius strip.
Ziltoidia 9
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This guy on CNN just said "If Jared Kusher was back-channeling with the russians..."
sigh.
sigh.
jellies_two
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You must be new in these topics.
This event joins all the other events and the picture grows more clear. It leads to further questions, which will have further answers. And at some point, the overall mosaic is in-arguable. The base can ignore each event if they like, and GOP and Fox will try to do that, but they don't realise that these bits of news don't pass when they stop getting discussed in the cycle, they go slot into their place in an overall and far more damning story.
pantsattack
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LET'S GOOOOOOO! Things are getting juicy.
ShironRedshift
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He's, uh, just new to this job. He was just asking questions; he doesn't know how anything work. We all make mistakes, and he was just doing his best to learn on the job, which is really, really hard you know. It's, uh, if anything it's Obama's fault for not taking the time to teach them better. Blame Obama, not me.
Something like that.
innervision961
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/.../russian_ambassador_told_moscow_that_kushner/
Has this been posted yet?
Has this been posted yet?
Leona Lewis
Banned
Wait, wasn't that the dude that Putin straight up punked in that clip?
The "Give me back my pen" dude?
He's a dead man now.
EDIT: Yep.
Dead man walking.
He's a slumlord.
I love the fact that this administration basically has its own Gork and Mork patron deity equivalents.
no, but someone in poligaf said a gaffer had stuff on this guy months ago. Someone should make a thread we need the NYT and WaPo batsignals next to each other
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
The more you see, the more you realize they really didn't want to win. Because no one would care about these talks if they lost.
He's gonna be dead pretty soon, I guess.
I don't know how often they are changed either. But I feel like it's fairly safe to assume they do get changed...at least every now and then? Maybe the reason it took so long for this to be confirmed is because the line was still useful until recently? WaPo knew about this for months and it's taken this long to be confirmed, even with how much has been leaking?
I don't disagree with you, but I think a valid and convincing argument could be made that this channel didn't matter anymore. Maybe that's not true, I don't know.
Lord Frieza
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He wanted to win, he just was too stupid to realize this was all going to flood out.
Red Arremer
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The GOP has the majority in congress and senate, right? For an impeachment to go through the GOP would have to play ball and I doubt they will. Even if Kushner gets removed, Trump would still be in power.
And even if Trump got thrown under the bus, Pence as president doesn't sound very appealing either.