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Batman V Superman Takes A Dive With -70% Second Weekend
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Fucking bullshit. Stop trying to paint dc and warner bros as victims. They're not. They made a terrible movie all the way from how it's marketed to the final result. They have themselves to blame and only themselves. I say this as a huge fan of nolans batman. I grew up with comics. Both marvel and dc. They helped me through some god awful tough times. Really fucking tough times. To see warner bros fuck up bat v supes so badly disappointed me on a level I wasnt even aware of. It wasnt even that the movie mishandled the characters. It was that the movie was just terrible. Everything was a waste of film.
I would've ripped apart marvel if they messed up as badly as warners. This is coming from a guy who enjoyed thor 2 and even found stuff to appreciate on green lantern.
Dash_Riprock
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Have a feeling I'll be seeing this post a lot from here on in.
element
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A $20m or $30m payout to save a potential multi-billion dollar franchise it chump change.
WB has killed other projects. Miller's Justice League, Aronofskys Batman: Year One, Tim Burton & Nicholas Cages Superman Lives and J.J. Abramss Superman: Flyby. All of these were in production for multiple years and were canned. WB doesn't have a problem killing something no matter what they have invested or the potential penalty (Burton got his entire salary for Superman Lives).
Definitely.
I love seeing some DC diehards desperately shitting on previous DC films to try and convince themselves that BvS is halfway decent. Man of Steel suddenly sucks, Dark Knight Rises was awful, Bale Bats was terrible compared to THIS etc.
It's as if BvS shittiness is travelling back in time and retroactively making the whole DC slate shitter.
It's as if BvS shittiness is travelling back in time and retroactively making the whole DC slate shitter.
Frozenprince
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It's a movie where a guy dressed like a bat puts on an iron man suit and punches a guy wearing spandex for like 7 minutes, then a rock monster made out of the dead bad guy from the last movie shows up, and gets hit by a woman wearing a metal one piece.
Sure the tone is darker, but that doesn't make it more or less serious than the Marvel films. The stakes are, inherently, the same.
Colonel Nasty
Member
Holy Moley.
sobaka770
Banned
Aw, man, that was supposed to be posted on the 1st, right?
At this point, alluding to Christ and shoehorning philosophical tropes into the narrative are so cliche and overdone to be schlocky, not artsy.
What?
People have spent the last three years literally unable to stop talking about how much they think MoS sucks. The Nolan films have always had their detractors, and those voices have only gotten louder. Folks have always clowned Bale as Batman.
And the dominant internet narrative has been, from my experience, that DC films are bad save Nolan and the really old ones. Nothing new is being said in response to BvS.
Is Green Lantern your favorite DC movie? Or is it Jonah Hex?
Yep.
KonradLaw
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God no. We don't need a string of ultra-similiar movies that feel like they were designed by commitees. I know it's more profitable, but I would rather have them take chances and give directors more freedom on how they aproach their movies. This way means we'll inevitably get some lows, but it also generates possibility for highs that Marvel aproach is unlikely to achieve.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Thank you. I was looking for that thread. I love how people are willing to straight up lie to themselves like that. C'mon man.
Father_Brain
Banned
The dark knight had similar tone and made a billion. Seriously this movie doesn't have an excuse and their's no conspiracy, it just sucks.
Opinions may differ, but I'd say Daredevil is significantly darker (and certainly much more violent) than the Nolan films.
Schweinehund
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He's a bit paranoid, but I'm a bit surprised you didn't bother checking the movie out after having posted in the DCU thread the last couple of years. It's not hard to see where he gets the impression from when the threads have been largely echo chambers, since the movie came out.
Escape Goat
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Batman and Daredevil work as darker films/tv series. Uniformly applying that to the entire DCEU doesn't. Even the CW shows understand that.
Father_Brain
Banned
Is everyone really hyped for it? I'm not so sure.
I sincerely hope that one turns out well, though.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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The amount of disdain for this movie is bizarre. People were ready to hate Henry Cavill, Snyder and this movie in general from early on.
More will come around to it as time goes on.
More will come around to it as time goes on.
echoshifting
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That Snyder Grimace
You don't feel like the DC JL films will be ultra similar to one another?
The audience rating on RT has actually been dropping since its release.
It's tough to find time. I'll see it in theaters though, probably soon.
Prophet Steve
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I have some big doubts about DC giving directors a lot of freedom. Maybe with Nolan, but now that they are creating an universe I'm not sure.
Not that I am a fan of Marvel's direction.
Yep. It's like Faora's completely derivative and sophomoric understanding of "evolution good, morality bad" in Man of Steel.
You know a movie is bad when its fans have to resort to persecution complex conspiracy theories to justify any negative opinions toward it.
echoshifting
Banned
Jesus, will people please stop saying shit like this??
I wanted this movie to be good! Most everybody who saw it wanted it to be good.
I'd say so. Every negative and positive review mentions WW as the highlight and people otherwise not into her are now intrigued
But seriously, I guess the reviews are gonna do more damage than I thought.
Box Office GAF, do you guys think this will still hit at least $1 billion?
I like the look of the era and that's about it so far. Chris Pine is usually good too.
lol be quiet
I love DC and its characters, since I was a child, I loved watching every single DC show and getting every DC comic I could get my hands on. Watching The Dark Knight for the first time is easily my favorite moviegoing experience.
For Marvel, I only really care about spider man, I mean, I watch the movies and enjoy them, but DC has always been what defines superheroes for me
I dont make fun of this movie because I hate DC or I wish for it to fail. I make fun of it because its amazing how it get such iconic characters so wrong.
I just want good DC movies
Mushroomer25
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Except you need at least one successful film to make that plan sustainable. If each film is a hit/miss gamble, you're never going to survive past the first few misses.
Marvel got here by having consistent quality, and are slowly bringing in more ambitious talent to differentiate product across the MCU (Guardians, Daredevil, Black Panther). They can afford to make riskier pictures, because they put in the work to lace a safety net.
Discotheque
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Yeah I think Batman and Wonder Woman came out of this fairly unscathed. It's superman that's fucked. Not to mention he will only appear in films directed by Snyder.
Other directors get a crack at the other two
But seriously, I guess the reviews are gonna do more damage than I thought.
Box Office GAF, do you guys think this will still hit at least $1 billion?
Crazy how we all went it would do a billion easy standing on it's head.
To now saying "is it even gonna reach that number?"
KonradLaw
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JL itself probably will. But Suicide Squad likely won't, same with Affleck's solo Batman if he's the one who will be directing it. I think Wan also has pretty strong voice of his own, so Aquaman might end up feeling different.
I have little hope for Flash and Cyborg though. I think WB really screwed up by not securing Phil Lord and Chris Miller for directing Flash instead of just having them script it.
Messofanego
Banned
I don't think even GAF predicted such a big drop!
Cause most people here believe that reviews mean nothing at all to box office.
Cause most people here believe that reviews mean nothing at all to box office.
I'd been giving this movie plenty of slack since day one, defending most of it. Even I came away shaking my head. I don't see it as irredeemable, but even some of the most-excited people for this movie were left disappointed.
echoshifting
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At least one person did, can't remember who it was though
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