Man, you were really checked out during PW weren't you?
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Gafia 2.5: The Bachelor Party |Mafia OT| One Last Override
- Thread starter Sorian
- Start date
Man, you were really checked out during PW weren't you?
I thought it was hamburgers and stuff...
well fuck that shit.
Player List
1. cabot [m] - chipped
2. CrimsonFist [m]
3. Droplet [f]
4. Flame_AC [m]
5. flatearthpandas [m]
6. Gorlak [m]
7. Kawl_USC [m]
8. nukedeggs [f]
9. Royal_Flush [m]
10. Sophia [f] - Banana'd?
11. Squidyj [m]
12. StanleyPalmtree [m]
13. StarSketch [f]
14. Zippedpinhead [m]
Let's assume banana is a poison as thats pretty much worst case for town.
2 kills a night (starting night 3 I would guess)
Chip sounds like it could potentially grant some type of benefit to user at the cost of a randomized kill maybe?
Could cut our numbers down quickly, I'd lean towards probably not turning the chip in if you didn't have.
1. cabot [m] - chipped
2. CrimsonFist [m]
4. Flame_AC [m]
5. flatearthpandas [m]
6. Gorlak [m]
7. Kawl_USC [m]
9. Royal_Flush [m]
10. Sophia [f] - Banana'd?
11. Squidyj [m]
12. StanleyPalmtree [m]
13. StarSketch [f]
14. Zippedpinhead [m]
Let's assume banana is a poison as thats pretty much worst case for town.
2 kills a night (starting night 3 I would guess)
Chip sounds like it could potentially grant some type of benefit to user at the cost of a randomized kill maybe?
Could cut our numbers down quickly, I'd lean towards probably not turning the chip in if you didn't have.
Xamtheking
Member
He was too busy being hot out the fucking gate
get the fuck out of our game.
And 'paying the price' is just Sorian fucking with you trying to play chicken via flavor text?
CrimsonFist
Member
Fruit Vendor would imply that the banana does nothing. Although that could just be misdirection based on the typical name for that role.
I mean. It certainly sounds like that. I wasn't given an option to eat the banana or not. It was automatic. And now I feel strange and fruity.
Also, how does everyone feel about the Droplet lynch train? Not everyone on it is likely scum, and personally I think Flame_AC and Star have the most suspicious votes on it. Flame was rather quick to jump on Squdiyj's logic after not really being here most of the game, and Star.... well I commented on that at the end of Day 1.
Assuming 100 pages per view, last three votes were all on page four. Squidly and Zipped were on Page 3.
CrimsonFist
Member
Day ended with 5 on Droplet, 3 on Zipped and 3 on Squidy.
Looking at the vote count Royal, Star and Flame all voted towards the end of the day, so before then, Zipped and Squid would have tied. Kawl tied the vote intentionally with a vote on Zipped.
I would suspect that scum are spread across the votes. I certainly doubt that Royal, Star and Flame are all scum at least. Also interesting that Flame says that all of Squidy's posts have been helpful, considering how fluffy he was at the start of the day.
Looking at the vote count Royal, Star and Flame all voted towards the end of the day, so before then, Zipped and Squid would have tied. Kawl tied the vote intentionally with a vote on Zipped.
I would suspect that scum are spread across the votes. I certainly doubt that Royal, Star and Flame are all scum at least. Also interesting that Flame says that all of Squidy's posts have been helpful, considering how fluffy he was at the start of the day.
I honestly don't wknow what to think about pocket bananas and chips but I think Cabot should probably cash it in? probably?
I mean we don't really know what it does so....
a. It's a beneficial effect but it is best optimized by being held
- now other players who recieve chips will be able to hold theirs
b. It's a negative effect and should never be used
- now we know
c. It's a positive effect and should be used right away
- yay
d. It gets used and we have no idea what it did if anything
- we remain about where we were before.
I mean we don't really know what it does so....
a. It's a beneficial effect but it is best optimized by being held
- now other players who recieve chips will be able to hold theirs
b. It's a negative effect and should never be used
- now we know
c. It's a positive effect and should be used right away
- yay
d. It gets used and we have no idea what it did if anything
- we remain about where we were before.
CrimsonFist
Member
I'd probably agree with cashing it in. I doubt it will RNG kill someone at least, although that's in part because I don't like the idea of RNG'd kills as a mechanic. We probably at least learn what it does that way., since I'm sure it won't be the only chip given out.
Since we have two item handerouters, I also doubt that both will have a killing effect. maybe one will, but this is just a 14 player game after all.
Since we have two item handerouters, I also doubt that both will have a killing effect. maybe one will, but this is just a 14 player game after all.
item is a strong term, Sophia's Banana is more just flavor text over the encounter rather than anything else IMO.
Hmm... in light of cabot being handed in a chip that he can cash in for something, I just want to draw attention to these two posts by Royal.
I do find it interesting that Royal brought up the idea of cabot potentially claiming if he has another power role or not, and then cabot getting that chip the next day. I'm not sure what to make of it tho...
I do find it interesting that Royal brought up the idea of cabot potentially claiming if he has another power role or not, and then cabot getting that chip the next day. I'm not sure what to make of it tho...
Huh.... you're right. Wonder what's up with that?
Well, it's lovely to see we are right back to the roaring activity we experienced at the end of day 1.
After taking a nice bike ride to gather my thoughts on the cabot issue, I've reevaluated a bit.
Alarmingly, my thoughts are along similar lines to squidy's (love you squid).
Cabot this all depends on whether or not you have a power that could be role blocked if it is like a doll mechanic versus how likely you think its to be that over some type of bad kill thingy.
But I think on the whole, unless you are the town equivalent of 1shot bp ascetic cop vig, you should spend it. It would be better for us to hopefully find out what this item does (although I have a sneaking suspicion it may be somewhat rng based given its flavor) instead of having a sword hanging over several people's head as we progress further into the game and closer to a lylo situation. Even if it does wipe you/some one else out.
If I was guessing between the banana and the coin, I'd lean town/3rd party on the banana and scum on the coin, this again dependent on whether Sophia is alive come day 3. If I'm a 3rd party with a win condition to have x coins turned in I'm not giving shit to Cabot. Dude is too likely of a scum target in my mind.
This is all dependent on Cabot telling the truth as well, which idk. He is Scottish.
After taking a nice bike ride to gather my thoughts on the cabot issue, I've reevaluated a bit.
Alarmingly, my thoughts are along similar lines to squidy's (love you squid).
Cabot this all depends on whether or not you have a power that could be role blocked if it is like a doll mechanic versus how likely you think its to be that over some type of bad kill thingy.
But I think on the whole, unless you are the town equivalent of 1shot bp ascetic cop vig, you should spend it. It would be better for us to hopefully find out what this item does (although I have a sneaking suspicion it may be somewhat rng based given its flavor) instead of having a sword hanging over several people's head as we progress further into the game and closer to a lylo situation. Even if it does wipe you/some one else out.
If I was guessing between the banana and the coin, I'd lean town/3rd party on the banana and scum on the coin, this again dependent on whether Sophia is alive come day 3. If I'm a 3rd party with a win condition to have x coins turned in I'm not giving shit to Cabot. Dude is too likely of a scum target in my mind.
This is all dependent on Cabot telling the truth as well, which idk. He is Scottish.
I think that the coin should be cashed in as it will give us some more information to work with on Day 3. Worst case, we learn nothing, best case we get something out of it. Nuked was an odd kill choice, but I hesitate to speculate on the presence of a switcher. For now it's probably best to assume not and then if something comes up to solidify it, then we discuss it.
On the bright side, cabot is likely to be town considering a visible PR did something to affect him. Could be scum targeting scum though, but for now I lean town.
I agree with the banana being perhaps a poison?
Vote: squidyj
On the bright side, cabot is likely to be town considering a visible PR did something to affect him. Could be scum targeting scum though, but for now I lean town.
I agree with the banana being perhaps a poison?
Vote: squidyj
CrimsonFist
Member
Any reason at all for that vote? You weren't on him yesterday, infact yesterday you said that you thought the train on him was misguided. Why the change of heart?
I was thinking yesterday about how I could be viewed as an easy lynch for Day 2, so I knew there was no way I was going to get killed during the night. Scum would of course have noticed that quite a few people had me on scum lists and so they'd naturally push for my lynch the following day. When Squidy is wrong, he'll be able to point to his Day 1 list and say, 'well, it was only a hunch', and he'll be off into the clear with an easy day under his belt.
You were one of the people I read as most scummy day 1, you jumped on the bandwagon to vote Droplet who turned out to be town, I would vote you as scum and I'd vote you as town and both of those would be the right decision.
You flipping your opinion on me is not impossible, but here, are you any sort of a PR?
Zippedpinhead
Member
After work and just done catching up.
Nukedeggs, I've had not had the pleasure to play with you until now. I hope you will be back.
In regards to the thread, squidyj why open the day with a flame_AC vote? I mean there was a little heat on him yesterday but what do you see that I don't from the end of yesterday?
About the banana, I can think of a couple different things it could be. My thoughts are itcould be a delayed role block or a poison.
It could also do nothing. What did the fruit in PW do again?
Nukedeggs, I've had not had the pleasure to play with you until now. I hope you will be back.
In regards to the thread, squidyj why open the day with a flame_AC vote? I mean there was a little heat on him yesterday but what do you see that I don't from the end of yesterday?
About the banana, I can think of a couple different things it could be. My thoughts are itcould be a delayed role block or a poison.
It could also do nothing. What did the fruit in PW do again?
Zippedpinhead
Member
Apparently a lot of us had the same question for squidyj all at once.
That will teach me to start a post and Come back to it
That will teach me to start a post and Come back to it
You went for me instead of the later bandwagoners. Would you be afraid if I was a PR? I'm not answering that.
not answering is probably best, at this point I doubt I'd believe you if you told me you were.
More like you wouldn't want anyone else to believe what I would say if I so happened to be one.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
i might just be reading into flavor too much, but sophias banana doesn't strike me as a poison,
the flavor of feeling 'fruity and strange' makes me think its effect will be something weirder as opposed to something just objectively threatening.
but i guess time will tell on this mystery.
the flavor of feeling 'fruity and strange' makes me think its effect will be something weirder as opposed to something just objectively threatening.
but i guess time will tell on this mystery.
StarSketch
Banned
I mean, unless it's food poisoning, but yeah that's probably not it.
Might be looking at the flavor too much. The message is worded in a way that suggests something bad will happen. It does not outright state this tho. The important details from it as far as I can tell is basically I somehow got a banana, I ate the banana, and I don't know what it does.
flatearthpandas
Member
Honestly, I was a bit shocked by how many people found nukedeggs super town yesterday. Obviously it wasn't wrong but it seems more like weak justification for the nk.
Droplet is fucked. Even among those who didn't vote for her, we have people myself included, vocalizing agreement on the lynch
Droplet is fucked. Even among those who didn't vote for her, we have people myself included, vocalizing agreement on the lynch
I'm back. Yesterday was my first evening at my new part time job (barkeeper), I'll have time to read and comment more detailed in a few hours.
Of the top of my mind:
banana and chip? I doubt that scum has a regular second kill in a game with 14 players, that would shorten the game drastically. Maybe it's some kind of one-shot kill (the chip) or one of the claimed items is a roleblock?
The very quiet day end suggest that scum was satisfied with how it went? I know I missed out and I'm sorry. I was surprised to see Droplet gone as she had only one vote the last time I was able to read the day in that phase. My scum suspects were Squidyj, zipped and Droplet. Zipped never answered my post yesterday and just got away with ignoring it. I don't know what to think about Squidyj going for Droplet. I'll look into it later.
Of the top of my mind:
banana and chip? I doubt that scum has a regular second kill in a game with 14 players, that would shorten the game drastically. Maybe it's some kind of one-shot kill (the chip) or one of the claimed items is a roleblock?
The very quiet day end suggest that scum was satisfied with how it went? I know I missed out and I'm sorry. I was surprised to see Droplet gone as she had only one vote the last time I was able to read the day in that phase. My scum suspects were Squidyj, zipped and Droplet. Zipped never answered my post yesterday and just got away with ignoring it. I don't know what to think about Squidyj going for Droplet. I'll look into it later.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Hyperactivity went ahead but got themselves stuck in an elevator. He tripped the alarm. Fire department should be here soon.
"We're going on without him. Let's go," says Whatshisface.
Droplet has been removed from the party.
Night 1 ends in:
Vote count above ended up being final vote count. I'll update the spreadsheet sometime tonight to be ordered by most votes to least. Need to head out here in a few minutes.
Man, you guys started off on the wrong foot. That's a bad luck charm right there.
Actually, wait. My death typically means my team inexplicably starts getting really lucky or playing better, so maybe this was good for you guys
night phase
It seems Flame is gunning up for a squidy shitstorm today. I can't say I disagree with squidy's logic though, there's a good shout for voting Flame.
Royal_Flush
Member
nukedeggs isn't that surprising as some of you make it to be. Generally Town read, unlikely to get protection, no strong suspicions (except against CrimsonFist I guess).
Banana and Chip (which should be cashed in) are interesting but no topics I see any merit in discussing right now.
It's a bit awkward talking about the "lynch train" when I'm part of it. However, if we find Scum in the late adopters that would be an indicator that squidyj or Zipped (or both) are Scum. Because why would they push a bandwagon on Droplet if none of their own was in danger? The question now is if we first want to check squdyj and Zipped or StarSketch and Flame (and me I guess). The problem with this is that we would soft-thunderdome quite early and leave Cabot, Crimson, FEP, Gorlak, Kawl and Stanley in a quite comfortable position. On the other hand, none of the four people (I'm excluding myself here) strikes me as particular towny (Maybe squidyj a bit, but only a light leaning)...
And, as a sidenote: Assuming 3 Scum and assuming one kill each night we only have one mislynch left. (3-7 today, 3-5 after a mislynch today -> MyLo) 14 is a weird number of players. 3 Scum seems a bit too much number wise but 2 seems way too low... I guess this got balanced out by PR strength.
Banana and Chip (which should be cashed in) are interesting but no topics I see any merit in discussing right now.
It's a bit awkward talking about the "lynch train" when I'm part of it. However, if we find Scum in the late adopters that would be an indicator that squidyj or Zipped (or both) are Scum. Because why would they push a bandwagon on Droplet if none of their own was in danger? The question now is if we first want to check squdyj and Zipped or StarSketch and Flame (and me I guess). The problem with this is that we would soft-thunderdome quite early and leave Cabot, Crimson, FEP, Gorlak, Kawl and Stanley in a quite comfortable position. On the other hand, none of the four people (I'm excluding myself here) strikes me as particular towny (Maybe squidyj a bit, but only a light leaning)...
And, as a sidenote: Assuming 3 Scum and assuming one kill each night we only have one mislynch left. (3-7 today, 3-5 after a mislynch today -> MyLo) 14 is a weird number of players. 3 Scum seems a bit too much number wise but 2 seems way too low... I guess this got balanced out by PR strength.
If it's a Scum poison than I seriously doubt that we have 3 Scum. (see above)
I can't argue with that logic and fully agree.
'flip-flopping". There were more than 24 hours between those posts in which Cabot gave a solid performance. From "guy who claimed Miller" to "one of the driving forces who happened to have claimed Miller". You don't lynch the people who drive discussion in the early stages of the game (especially in a quiet game like this), regardless if you're leaning Scum on them (well except there is strong evidence of course. But as it's D1...). That's why Sorian never gets lynched. Because he's useful, even as Scum.
But do you regret not moving your vote? Do you still think squidyj should be lynched? Also remarkable that your three suspects ended up in three-way tie before myself and StarSketch broke it.
I have to say the zipped vote list features myself, kawl and stanley. I don't read either of them as scum.
We know nukedeggs was town and was on Crimson, single vote and while I aired some concerns along with a couple of others, he wasn't really in as a day 1 lynch. It could be possible she was onto a scum and considering her activity and content, they thought to vanquish her early.
squidy had Droplet as confirmed town, Gorlak who I have a light town read on, and Crimson who is a neutral/null.
The Droplet wagon has the most stink. Flame, zipped, Star are all reasonable scum candidates. I'm not so strong on Flush, but I don't see him as Town. Squidy could be anything, and I would normally say that it seems very unlikely squidy and Flame are on the same team, anyone who watched Matrix knows that they bussed the hell out of each other in the early game and that realy helped Flame get that win for the scum team.
I'll note Sophia's vote on Stanley, which seems a bit safe to me. I don't particularly read her as scum, but to be uninvolved in all the lynch candidates is strange. Can you remind me of your feelings on Droplet, squidy and zipped, Sophia?
I'm leaning towards hitting a zipped voter.
Your numbers are off, we're at 12 currently. We mislynch that's 3-7, 3-6 overnight. 3-5 mislynch D3, 3-4 N3, 3-3 D4 with mislynch, so lylo is D4.
Royal_Flush
Member
Well, that's not mutually exclusive
You're right. We're not 3-7 (because clearly 14-2-3=7) but 3-9. Good, that gives us more room to breathe.
Ouros shit math from heist flashbacks intensify. #scumcantmathshistorically
Also note if an extra kill does surface the first one does not cost us a day. It also gives better chances at hitting scum in lylo day 4 edition. Something to keep in mind in the off chance we have a vig. Though adding in a poisoner, assuming a two night delay, puts only one death from them night 3 placing us in lylo there unless another kill has happened (ie vig n2 and poison n3 makes day4 game as it will be 3v3 at that point).
1v2v11 was also a distinct possibility but doesn't really change this hypothetical, although they could provide another 'out' n3 if they hit their win condition for doing something 3 times. Well that's not true as it gives town another day as it would be 2v4 in that case over 3v3.
1v2v11 was also a distinct possibility but doesn't really change this hypothetical, although they could provide another 'out' n3 if they hit their win condition for doing something 3 times. Well that's not true as it gives town another day as it would be 2v4 in that case over 3v3.