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Mini Mafia I |OT| Why is it so small?

oh just quickly, how does this (bolded part emphasized)...

If you genuinely think yn is scum you don't ask her to do anything. Come one now. Reads and isos from scum over foster WIFOM which is why anything you say today will mostly be ignored unless you flip town tomorrow.

...get this as a reply?

So you basically want me to stop playing?

OK.

I'm sure that benefits everyone.

melon, if you are legit town, what you say today WILL NOT BE IGNORED tomorrow.

now, i know you are maf, so you are acting this way, but as for me, i will try to present all of my thoughts today so if i get nightkilled by your wolfmate on N3, town still have everything i was pursuing.
 
^ yep

also i find it telling that i had to prompt her vote on me. i know she said my nick is hard to type, but come on, we're playing forum mafia. if i was legit calling someone a liar, i'd have lashed out and made the effort to strike back and lay down a vote without having to be called out for it~

oh just quickly, how does this (bolded part emphasized)...



...get this as a reply?



melon, if you are legit town, what you say today WILL NOT BE IGNORED tomorrow.

now, i know you are maf, so you are acting this way, but as for me, i will try to present all of my thoughts today so if i get nightkilled by your wolfmate on N3, town still have everything i was pursuing.

Funny how you keep suggesting you're now sure I'm mafia.

I thought that 1-shot was supposed to tell you?

Weird.
 

Sorian

Banned
YNNY makes the most sense as SK. I don't know why you'd say she would be part of a team.

I never said Stan was scum only that I was interested in him and Kawl. I had a feeling yesterday and know for sure today.

>SK!YNNNY does cop gambit
>Town!melon is lynched
>Town!melon is revealed as town, SK!YNNNY is revealed as liar
>SK!YNNNY is lynched the following day
>SK is a one-man team, team eliminated

What's the goal here in this narrative you've thought up?
 
Day start is 7am for Yeeny and 9am for Stanley. Stanley is not a morning person...

most accurately someone has ever read me.

Ty and Sorian are scum mates. Stan is town so we pass on him and Kawl being 1911 doesn’t means he’s you know actually 1911.

seriously what the heck does 1911 mean? i thought it was code for Sk but now i dont know what to believe

Vote: melonrabbit

i wish you all would tell me when i get confirmed,
im always the last to find out what team im on, its so unfair!

and to yinyin
your stance on the peeking thing makes even more sense now, i must humbly apologize for doubting you.
 
Lol no

Cabot had been saying all day that Kawl shouldn't be lynched due to activity. That post you've quoted clearly means
"Sure you have a light scum read on Kawl, but would you really lynch him today? Really?"

That was a weird interpretation of cabot's post, I struggle to believe it was accidental.

The tone of your interpretation and his post are worlds apart though. There's not a hint of sarcasm and he adds the "Sure, Kawl has said a few things which bug me" to show he's not disagreeing completely.

Do you have any example posts of why you town read cabot (if you do)? Your D1 town read of him seemed to just be "He agrees with me", but maybe I'm missing something.

I feel like his post justifying his vote on Hyper by Sky's vote is important. Both ways.

yeah... no. ty this argument is crap.
in context (that im remembering from the moment when the question was addressed to me) it was obvious that he asked this to clarify my position on Kawl, whether i actually thought he was scum or if i was just pointing out an isolated post that bugged me.
 
Funny how you keep suggesting you're now sure I'm mafia.

I thought that 1-shot was supposed to tell you?

Weird.

melon this isnt going to help you.
you are going to be lynched.
nothing short of some earth shattering revelation will stop that, its just the most logical action for the rest of us to take right now.
if you are town then your efforts to stop it are a waste, if you really want to help us then you really should be focusing on trying to deduce who the 3rd scum will be.
if you are town and yin is lying, she will get her comeuppance. you dont need to be throwing shade at her.
 
OK. My ISO on febe will begin with the one he replaced, Catvoca!

75: okay, so he began with not quite understanding the peeking plan
88: asking further questions about peeking plan, because he didnt understand how it'd work.
114: putting the onus that the plan should be fulfilled by everyone. that bit was shady, but then he also asked a question on how to do the plan, by asking if scum reads were supposed to be mixed in. that part made me think he was genuinely digesting the fine details of the plan in his mind.
138: still insisting that everyone needed to agree to it. adding to it, he dropped splinter's name as being 'against it'. this series of posts thus far wasnt smelling particularly rosey to me.

210: i voted for catvoca based on the above reads

248: returned to thread after sleeping time in ireland. i liked this post. he picked on kristoffer for having posted mostly nothing but vote tally and he made a very cute observations that posting vote tally does beef up a player's post count, making them look as if contributing whilst not really doing so. (i am aware i post vote tallies too, but i think i also make a lot of contributive posts outside of them). regardless, it was a good observation. in this post, he also laid out that he wasn't reading sophsoph as town because her posts, though they were biggish, didn't actually contain a lot of good analysis. he also townread L_P and me. whilst his reasoning for feeling L_P and me are a little fluffy, i quite like that he was showing where he was leaning with regards to a few specific players.

259: catvoca was the first one that picked up on yonyon's posts having a mixture of a lot of mechanic discussion and not so much actual reads. town points from me.

268: explanation further on why he finds yonyon's suspicious (basically he was saying yonyon blends too well like a tree inna forest). more town points from me.

301: he was replaced by febe.

304: febe entered, saying he will catch up as best as he could.

316: already caught up! so quick! laid down a vote on L_P. gave reads readily about my playstyle. reporting null read on sophsoph. all of these little drops on his slants on people were townie-vibey to me. i also had to keep in mind where catvoca was in my head and adding them up, i was kind of liking firevoca so far.

328: butting heads with L_P. showing that he could understand why melon seems scummy but didn't feel L_P's cases for hyper and terra. not much here for me.

335: was a cute post in hindsight. hyper was peddling that peeking only worked if EVERYONE was in it, and febe replied that only a sith deals in absolute. and well, we know hyper's flip now :>

343: trying to be helpful to sophsoph who was querying when did kawl start making it seem as if he wanted EVERYONE to be in the peeking plan because she couldn't quite pinpoint the post herself. at that time, i felt this was slightly shady. like seems helpful, but potentially could be set up as dropping a soft idea that kawl did infer that he needed absolutely EVERYONE on board with his tyrannical peeking faction. lost townie points :<

392: sticking with his L_P vote. he noted that he was aware that associating himself with melon might be a bad idea, but he stuck to his guns. also solid reasoning why he couldnt buy what L_P was peddling (basically it was "but u are also same fault as me" approach from L_P) (which i thought was kinda weak, too). townie points from me.

412: being too cautious here. putting shield up about being a replacement. but the one that i dislike was the tone of wanting no dirt on his hands wrt the hyper train that was being formed. FLUID POSITIONING.

422: breaking what he thought was a tie on Hyper v Terra. But he also said that he doesnt mind if it was actually causing a tie, cuz either way RNG would take care of business. Not sure i liked his stance here. He basically saying he didn't lean left or right. So he couldn't be faulted (or read). Coupled with the previous post, i wasn't feeling febe at this moment.

434: Putting his vote back on L_P. Febe knew by now the hyper train was snowballing. he was the only vote on L_P at day end. not sure how to read this so i think i just marked it as "interesting, but need more stuff to attach it to"

460: reacting to L_P's demise with an abandoned attempt at reporting peek. lost townie points.

477: picked up at yonyon making assumptions on L_P's death. townie points.

493: but then he himself engage in some speculations on L_P's death. null read on its own, but funny considering that the picked on yonyon for speculating earlier. but i have to admit yonyon's phrasing was awk like hell.

498, 500: engaging with cabot and kawl to explain his vote on D1. sensible replies.

518: stating that the arguments against sky are almost too good to be true. showing suss on sophsoph because of how she unvoted and revoted. we now know sophsoph to be town, so that's two strikes against febe with his suss list (L_P and sophsoph).

567: engaging with me with regards to my analysis on propeek but not reporting peek. he also corrected me on his stance. also putting his vote where his mouth was, he voted for sophsoph. and finally, he explained why he picked L_P in D1. he saw L_P was posting so he wanted to pick his brain further because he was online. i gave febe townie points here for engaging in the discussion without being prompted to do so.

570, 572: being cute about not reporting peeks. lost townie points :3

574: replying to melon on his suspicions on sophia. he classify it as 'mostly gut read' here. null movements on febe on this from me.

646: returning to thread after sleep. this was one of febe's bigger posts. he reported that he was easing off melon, and reaffirms that his suss on sophsoph was mostly gut read. both have been consistent in his narrative so far. he returned to yonyon, picking up a few things he didn't like, but leaving his vote where it was. so.... even though a bit of a bigger post, it was neither here nor there. lost some townie points.

664: put melon in the spot and asked her what she thinks about yonyon. felt a bit leadinggggg. lost more townie points.

693: responding to sophsoph and trying to sell that he thinks sophsoph is a townie leader and a good player. (now that sophsoph was nightkilled, im wondering if this post had any hand in helping maf choose their targets...:x). again saying yonyon's posts are worrying, but his vote is yet to be moved. lost more townie pointssss.

702: finally moving his vote on to yonyon. a bit late for me.

743: posting vote tally and welcoming sorian. nothing here.

764: being coy about sorian reading him as town.

792: being okay with a tie. again. like before, i didn't like this stance because it is not giving any reads and can be spin any which way more convenient when required, after the flips.

803: being cute.

858: D3. febe dropped by saying he will be somewhat preoccupied in real but will keep up. asking melon why she scumread him. agreeing with melon about yonyon. nothing here. slight town read as he tries to get melon to elaborate on her stances.

871: more prodding at melon to provide support for her scumreading him. slight townie points.

886: being snarky that melon didn't quite provide specific posts where catvoca behaved suspiciously. calling her out on her vague accusations. seems slightly defensive, but in this case, i found it understandable as she didn't actually provide good response to what he was asking for, whereas she was the one that began saying that catvoca was suss, how was she not able to pinpoint the suspicious posts? townie points to febe.

887: voting for melonrabbit because of my claim. nothing here.

996: reporting dimsum consumption (damn you febe, now I want dimsums) (*shakes fist*). setting up a lynch order in the event of melon flipping maf (he wants us to go after yonyon) (........... and sorian) (?) - donno yet how to read D3 febe.

1001: past games regrets.


OKAY. So, that took foreverrrrr.

My summary on febe is that he is leaning scum for me on D1 but his sole vote on L_P sticks out like a sore thumb and he had really sensible responses to people asking for him to explain himself on that topic. D2 was harder to read as he was mostly on yonyon, but his vote was on sophsoph for the majority of the day.

His picking on L_P (dead, town cop) and sophsoph (dead, ordinary townie) is too visible though to make him a convincing maf for me.

So I will say, after all that effort, febe remains hard to read for me ;___;

I will settle with null read on Fireblend.

Will return later with another ISO, but needs a little break now. @___@
 
Funny how you keep suggesting you're now sure I'm mafia.

I thought that 1-shot was supposed to tell you?

Weird.

? i dont understand, melon. what's the issue? maybe my english is bad?

the first post you quoted me, i was pointing out to the rest of the town that the way you are reacting today realllllllly point to scumminess

the second is a flowing sentence phrasingness. like, "now, look here, you ruffian"

of course i know you are maf because my 1-shot had told me that you are maf. there is no insane cop in this set up i think, so it's as clear as A B C~

(if it was confusing because of bad english, though, i apologize .__.)
 

*Splinter

Member
Oh Ty/Sorian are masons? Neat, I believe that. I suspected it back on day 1 thanks to this post:

Apologies for inactivity. I was busy for most of the day, but I should be active till day end.

Town
Catvoca - I haven't made a detailed read of him, but his read of me is not a safe read. I don't think I've been that blendy, but I see where he's coming from and it's more understandable when no one have voiced suspicion of me so far.

Yeeny - She plays like I expect town yeeny to play and seems calm and cheerful. I also agree with her read of melonrabbit.

Terrabyte - This is really not a strong town read, but I was suspicious of his opening post as well. When I read over his initial posts though I noticed that he didn't seem to hide from what was going on (pretty direct reply to Kawl) and seemed vested in the game. Not a strong read, but just my two cents on why I don't want him lynched right now.

Kawl - Also not a strong read and someone I need to read more closely. Someone who is strong out the gate though IMO is more likely than not a townie wanting to get the game going. As scum it's much easier and safer to stay low and I don't think people were expecting him to be active.

--------------------

Scum
melonrabbit - I haven't read yeeny's post in detail yet, but I have found her to be a bit off coming from DP. She seems much more cautious and a lot less curious.

Gonna read her more closely after dinner, but for now:

VOTE: melonrabbit

Why do I keep writing these on mobile ._.
Terra just stood out to me as an odd player to include in a read list. He hadnt been much of a talking point before this.

When it came to the final 4, I didn't want to talk about my theory so I just read Terra as null. I voted him because I wanted the vote to later swing from Terra to Hyper. This is also the reason I was confident enough in him to use him as my fake peek.


Ty, since I'm assuming you've already done the analysis, what does adding an MM to our setup tell us?
 

*Splinter

Member
The tone of your interpretation and his post are worlds apart though. There's not a hint of sarcasm and he adds the "Sure, Kawl has said a few things which bug me" to show he's not disagreeing completely.

Do you have any example posts of why you town read cabot (if you do)? Your D1 town read of him seemed to just be "He agrees with me", but maybe I'm missing something.

I feel like his post justifying his vote on Hyper by Sky's vote is important. Both ways.
Initially it was a (reasonably strong) gut read. Then there were enough times where he said exactly what I was thinking that I decided he either has the same info as me (bugger all) or he's doing an unbelievable job of ignoring the info he has.

I looked back for examples, but it wasn't as clear cut as I remember it. I guess I'll ISO him during the night phase.

If some joker wants to NK me or Cabot then I will exact vengeance in the next life.
 

cabot

Member
Ouch at cabot's post in-between tho:

Like he wants to lynch him.

lol stupid idiot.

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I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot.

This was a probe on Stan, would you lynch the town leader for the reason you gave. I mean look at my votes if you want to know who I want dead. Thanks, bye.

Drink it in, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.


VOTE: melonrabbit

I did say I read her as PR or scum, and she hasn't given PR results, so let's flip her to confirm Yeeny.
 

cabot

Member
I don't even know what to make of that Ty post, it was possibly the most unnecessary shade ever thrown in the history of shadows.
 

cabot

Member
Why did you spend so much time reading and analyzing my post when you were supposed to go through Hyper's posts?

Because reading hypers posts was like gouging my eyes with pens. I made it clear I found it difficult to get through them in D2.
 

cabot

Member
So day 1 was focusing on inactives.

Day 2 was playing with two town wagons.

And day 3 was hoping to mislynch the wagon who lost day 2 and ride the momentum of a close vote. Do I have that right?

What is this post? commentating my play or the Town?

Because on Day 2 I didnt change my vote.
 

Ty4on

Member
Your read list was garbage. I went into detail as to why.
Yes, melon is clearly town.

/snark

I still don't get why you'd use so much time on my post. How did you arrive at it when you were supposedly reading Hyper? You seemed able to read his post later when you commented feeling a whole bunch of nothin from it.
 
gah, this sucks, it feels like theres nothing to talk about while we wait for the days end.
heres something.

hows everyone feeling on Sorian?

obviously i was going pretty hard on Terra, but a lot of my suspicions on him seem pretty moot with him pulling out of the game. and i haven't really gotten a strong feeling either way since Sorian joined.
 

*Splinter

Member
gah, this sucks, it feels like theres nothing to talk about while we wait for the days end.
heres something.

hows everyone feeling on Sorian?

obviously i was going pretty hard on Terra, but a lot of my suspicions on him seem pretty moot with him pulling out of the game. and i haven't really gotten a strong feeling either way since Sorian joined.
He just claimed mason with Ty4on.

Earlier I said I believed his claim, but with only 1 scum left to find I guess this isn't even up for debate.
 
shit, yeah, reading through that part again i see it was said much straighter than i first though. i guess that it coming right after all the Champ game joking kinda threw me off about it.

woops
 
and to yinyin
your stance on the peeking thing makes even more sense now, i must humbly apologize for doubting you.

dont be sorry silly. the name of the game is to doubt everything and everyone and when you think you've put together a sensible narrative as to who is scum and who's not........ throw everything out entirely and begin again! no one is above reproach! I SAY! NO ONE IS ABOVE DOUBTS!!

okay. so i am back for more ISO. yay for you (poor you, you poor people who hates walls of texts)

this time imma do one on SORAYAN

77: entry into the game, rallying with "lets do this, town!" and casting a vote on kawl. the rallying cry was a bit try hard for me. then he suggested that entering late into the game was beneficial because he had observed how kawl wanted to assume town leader position. somethingsomething WIFOM. terra lost townie points right out of the gate with me.

84: explaining how he defines WIFOM as "Any time we talk about "If X is scum" it is Wine In Front Of Me by virtue of it potentially leading to circular logic.".... eh, i can sort of understand where he comes from.

90: seems like he disliked that yonyon asked kawl for his top town? I dont quite understand this post. he stated that it was only page 2 at that stage.

124: hyper sort of saying there is no reasons for kawl to assume leadership, but also validating that terra was right about that it was WIFOM.

185: post saying he will catch up with the game after some pressure from sky-o

186: caught up. welcomed sophsoph. placed a nicely and vaguely agreeable statement about peeking. it says: "Kawl said it earlier, and I'm actually inclined to agree with him, we really shouldn't waste the game phase talking about whether we are going to use the fake peek strategy." - note that he didnt say he agrees with the plan. but that he agrees that we shouldnt waste time talking about the plan if we are going to use the fake peek strategy.

191: after being prodded by kawl, he finally said that he was in favour of the plan.

276: responding to cabot asking if he'd lynch kawl based on that previous WIFOM business. he unvoted saying that it was a day one post one vote. he also complained here about the day length being only 24 hours. (as you guys know i didn't much like this post. no one really asked anyone to make mega posts. if it's not your style, then it's not your style. no problems).

312: welcoming febe into the game. snarking a bit about how drop outs and replacements have continued into mid-season.

387: casting shades on Hyper and L_P but not committing to any votes. FLUID POSITIONING. i read this post as really scummy.

407: responding to hyper to provide reasoning from previous post. claimed hyper is too defensive. seems ... rehearsed. didnt like this post at all. we know now that hyper is scum, and the way hyper posted towards the end of D1 was very anti-terra. i can sense a painting being painted for us kind of feeling.

(also, terra, very sorry that you find large walls of texts bleh :< i donno how else to play this game. a spider thinks better as a spider commits thoughts into typing >__<;;;;)

411: hyper voting for terra. he also questioned why i went for him instead of one of the 'low posters' (alluding terra, i think). this post now has further context in my assessment of sorian/terrabyte since hyper's flipped maf

414: voting for hyper cuz it was either or situation.

511: dug up L_P's post marking him, hyper and melon as his top scums. but didn't really say any rebuttals or theories, just mentioned that it was "interesting".

533: he posted that he was pissed off that i was ticked off by him whining about the 24 hours phase. he flat out stated: "My personal playstyle is one where I like to sit and watch the direction of conversation over the course of days, not walls of text where we multi-quote everything that seems out of place. Excuse me for liking to take things slow." - i read this post as very defensive. no one had asked anyone to commit to mega posts. everyone plays their own way. i can jive with stanley who is a low poster, and i can jive with sophsoph, who is a high poster. i can do splinter's style of brief posts and i can rock with kawl's walls of texts. so terra's outburst came out of nowhere, since it was really his whining that got me to notice him. and we all knew that it was going to be 24 hours phases before we signed up :x

the following posts after that was terra dropping out from the game :<

terra, if i had made the game terrible and unenjoyable for you, i sincerely apologize. but i donno how to play any other way. i think better as i type >___<;;;

728: batsie announced sorian entering game

733: sorian entered with aragorn gif saying he will catch up

734: joking around, answering that he is scum. (or is he joking around) (*waggles eyebrows*)

750: reported a green check on me. awww. agreeing with cabot that scum choosing L_P was a good choice. calling febe's style in this game town!fire. isnt he such an agreeable fella~ then calling sky-o tl;dr and melon insubstantial. he then tosses out his early reads being that kawl is okay, even though he snidely ask him if splinter's pocket is nice and warm. and that he didn't like cabot and splinter. in general, a good entry's post, with reads and a vote on cabot. playing like an experienced player, our sorian. earned townie points but felt too smooth and friendly and cloying.

756: calling melon out on her theory that kawl is neutral. basically, "hello melon, we dont like each other, do we? no we do not." then added that sophsoph seemed townie to him.

759: responding to splinter on cabot. splinter said he has been trusting cabot mostly and sorian replied that it was mostly him throwing shit around and seeing what sticks. and that cabot's post at day start was bothering him. nebulous. lost townie points with me.

761: poking at cabot's butts. consistent with his vote.

767: bringing up that he couldnt see kawl talking about himself being sk. dropping that melon was the one associating kawl with sk, instead.

772: being in sky-o's face. also calling melon out on her suspicion on yonyon. reeks of positioning self at the opposite spectrum of melon.

773: acknowledging sophsoph's pointer that it was indeed kawl that brought up the possibility that he could be sk.

776: remarking an "either or, it is what it is" with yonyon not altering his behaviour despite the accusations falling onto him. "either he is townie with nothing to lose or he isn't too worried about being lynched." - nebulous.

781: clarifying what he meant since yonyon misunderstood his statement.

784: stating that he would vote for sky if it comes down to it, but placing a vote on melon. so it appears in his voting history. townreading yonyon.

799: voting on sky to break the tie. the final vote for D2.

800, 805, 810 were just joking around.

813: stating that sky-o final post doesnt sound scummy to him. but he also say that he wont overturn his vote. slight townie points from me.

821: D3 first post. voting on cabot. consistent with previous day's stance. slight townie points.

822: asking yonyon about his remarks of a doctor in play.

826: stating that he was surprised that he was still alive. remarking that kawl had heat about being sk. saying that sophsoph wasn't a bad choice for a doc guess.

829: riding melon again. inferring that she flipflopped on D2.

832: asking cabot what's his next goal was. inferring that melon should be next since her read that kawl is sk was obvs garbage.

833: melon lashed out back at sorian, saying that she thinks he thinks too highly of himself.

835: calling splinter out for hard-townreading kawl. even though sorian too townread kawl himself. idk. weird.

840: headbutting with melon a little. explaining to yonyon that he was aware he had two sleeper votes on him and he was interested to see if there would be any movements on that.

842: inferring that scum does bus on D1 since he had done so himself.

847: poking at cabot's pattern of attacks throughout D1 and D2.

850: melon saying that she isn't sorian's fan.

854: asking confirmation that there should only be 2 scums left, then putting melon and cabot together.

857: asking melon about 1911

862: asking about the sleepers that live in the southern hemisphere

865: throwing shade against melon and her sk theory. throwing shade at yonyon for sheeping his vote on cabot.

867: being sarcastic? about yonyon being confirmed town. idk. sorian was one of the few that townread yonyon previously.

873 and 880 were talking about the game design mechanic.

882: voting for melonrabbit after my claim.

888: commenting that he's happy to test my claim.

892: saying that melon's flip would be good info, as well. sorian makes a lot of white noise posts like these ones. they are neither good or bad but sounds pretty relatable kind of posts.

896: more game design talk

899: questioning yonyon about his interpretation

900: realising timeaisis had done it instead of bats? more white noise.

903: agreeing with me that 1v1 trade is good for town.

910: wondering where cabot was.

913: jest post about the improbable 7C

914: admitting that cabot's timezone was a good reason why he would be asleep.

930: asking if the SK actually have to kill every night.

933: pointing out that SK's set up is up to moderator's decision. townie points from me.

937: more clarifications on SK and its win condition.

940: joke post

942: suggesting the vig, if there is one, to shoot cabot or himself to knock out a 'sketchy' element.

944: joke post

946: blaming me for lack of new posts.

950: melon putting a "Sorian is bad" show. after her flip as maf, this thing between melon and sorian would gain an interesting context, methinks. it's been consistent and deliberate, starting with sorian's second post after he joined the game :3

953: rebuttal against melon's attack.

957: being cute with me about WIFOM and still maintaining that back and forth with melon.

961: still butting heads with melon. stating that if yonyon flips maf, he'd be happy to be lynched. even offering himself first and if he flips maf, yonyon can go next. a very townie post.

963: commenting on mafia universe play style

976: still headbutting with melon about her sk theory. dropping that it makes more sense that i or her is SK instead of kawl, whilst giving that a ty/sorian team might make sense as well.

982: more mafia universe talk

986: more inferring on ty and sorian mason team.

991: more mafia universe talk.

994: stating that splinter is his long shot candidate if cabot doesnt pan out. saying that he likey turbo ability. (i also likey turbo ability, but this is... different and new).

998: joked a little with febe. poked holes in melon's theory, which.... to be honest, does have a lot of holes. sorian's assessment on her theories has good points.

1000: melon followed sorian's lead that i am now make most sense as sk, despite her apparent dislike of him.

1004: a very succint and clear point-by-point dismantling of melon's narrative.



RIGHT. All in all, Sorian comes across as a very experienced player, to me. I really admire how he can softly weave conversations with both statements, questions and white noise remarks.

He made all the right moves, i think. Joining the game and quickly throws some agreeable nods at some players but also laid down a vote firmly on cabot. His stances are, in general, consistent. He's been hard on cabot, for example.

The way he handles melon's theories are also on point. And he's active, much more active than Terra was, making contributions and engaging with various players.

I read Sorian as mostly leaning scum.... it's mostly because the way he is playing right now reminds me a lot of how he played in D2 Cthulhu and in the recent Mafia Invitational Mean Girls game. Sorian isn't shy from putting heat on himself, like suggesting if there was a vig they should shoot cabot or him, everything that he says and does scream town. but something about his posts are just ... way too smooth for my liking.

(again, sorry for the wall of text ;___;)
 

cabot

Member
Yes, melon is clearly town.

/snark

I still don't get why you'd use so much time on my post. How did you arrive at it when you were supposedly reading Hyper? You seemed able to read his post later when you commented feeling a whole bunch of nothin from it.

Am I supposed to explain how I play mafia to you?

Replying to your post took about ten minutes. This is a nonsense route you're going down.
 
I'm pretty sure he thought it was far too early in the game for town reads hence the page 2 comment.

yeah but you were asking kawl, just to get things going right? i mean, it was early D1. why not start the ball rolling with some gut reads discussion

in archer, squidy asked everyone to throw their top 5 scums as "hot list out of the gates" without anything having had happened yet in D1

i guess im saying it's a thing that isn't unknown for D1 discussion

im probably going to do ISO on you next, yonyon. maybe my last one for the day. they take foreveeeeeerrr aaaaaaaaaanndddddddd nooooooooo onnnnnnneeeeeee reads them cuz they are very long ; __ ;

i dont care! you dont have to read them! they help me think though~

*weeps quietly in the corner*
 

cabot

Member
This isn't the first time you've used activity against me, Ty. You initially scum read me because I posted a little then went to bed.

My question to Ty is this.

If you initially scum read me, then you seemed to have changed your mind since you dropped me in mentions when talking about who you suspected, what changed your mind again?
 
Oh Ty/Sorian are masons? Neat, I believe that. I suspected it back on day 1 thanks to this post:


Terra just stood out to me as an odd player to include in a read list. He hadnt been much of a talking point before this.

When it came to the final 4, I didn't want to talk about my theory so I just read Terra as null. I voted him because I wanted the vote to later swing from Terra to Hyper. This is also the reason I was confident enough in him to use him as my fake peek.


Ty, since I'm assuming you've already done the analysis, what does adding an MM to our setup tell us?

yonyon, did i miss your answer to splinter's question about having an MM in the setup?
 

cabot

Member
Splinter already pointed something out in favour of this claim, It's possible its a two-townie or one-scum gambit but I'm not really sure why they'd both play along in that case.

The only other explanation is both are scum, which is possible but unlikely, and it all depends on melon's flip.


I can buy this claim since Sorian was hard for me as soon as he entered this game, and Ty really wasn't until this day phase. I can buy Sorian whispering sweet nothings in Ty's ear about how I'm scum.
 
to be honest, cabot, i also read that mason claim stuff as just yonyon playing along with sorian

but if they want to really say it was a legit claim, im all ears
 

Ty4on

Member
yonyon, did i miss your answer to splinter's question about having an MM in the setup?
2M on top of 3T and assuming no serial killers gives us 2T and 0T, both goon, godfather and blocker.
This isn't the first time you've used activity against me, Ty. You initially scum read me because I posted a little then went to bed.

My question to Ty is this.

If you initially scum read me, then you seemed to have changed your mind since you dropped me in mentions when talking about who you suspected, what changed your mind again?
Nothing in particular made you drop off. My initial read was shallow. I read not discussing the peek debate as a scum not wanting to stand out. It was very "comfortable" as scum to stay out of conversations like that. It was also how it felt in contrast to your entrance. Your overall approach after that though seemed townie.yMostly the DGAF attitude.

After Hyper's flip I initially wrote you off as town, but got a bit less certain when I tried putting together the scum team. You felt like you were a little outside of the discussions. Sorian's suspicion then made me really look into you.

Your vote was initially at Terra on D1 and then your hard suspicion on Sky, but with soft shade on melon stood out. It's still bolder than I expect scum to play though.
 

cabot

Member
2M on top of 3T and assuming no serial killers gives us 2T and 0T, both goon, godfather and blocker.

Nothing in particular made you drop off. My initial read was shallow. I read not discussing the peek debate as a scum not wanting to stand out. It was very "comfortable" as scum to stay out of conversations like that. It was also how it felt in contrast to your entrance. Your overall approach after that though seemed townie.yMostly the DGAF attitude.

After Hyper's flip I initially wrote you off as town, but got a bit less certain when I tried putting together the scum team. You felt like you were a little outside of the discussions. Sorian's suspicion then made me really look into you.

Your vote was initially at Terra on D1 and then your hard suspicion on Sky, but with soft shade on melon stood out. It's still bolder than I expect scum to play though.


Hyper also leaped straight into the peek stuff as a scum, it's a very comfortable conversation to appear active and contributing as scum.

Sky was Town, but with a likely 3-man scum team down to 2-man on day 2, going so strongly on a Town seems a bit reckless. He was also one of my motives for going to Hyper in the first place, I was perfectly happy with a tie vote on D1 before that happened. Both Terra and Hyper were decent kill choices.


I'll say it right now, I didn't get involved in the peeking because I didn't find it interesting. Enough people made points for and against for me to make a decision, and I felt that was that.
 
hey YinYin, can you explain what you mean by FLUID POSITIONING! dun dun dunnnnnnn

i thought i knew but now im not so sure.

oh its like saying: "BATSIE is kinda scummie cuz who would call himself batsnacks unless he is actually a food item but on the other hand, TIMEAISIS has ISIS in his name so~"

... then later when BATSIE flipped town, person can say, well I DID SAY TIMEAISIS has ISIS in his name, didn i

or if BATSIE flipped maf, person can ALSO say, well I DID SAY he wasn't a legit food item, didn i

it's like you can spin it either way kind of statement. i find them smelly. but it's just my thing.... hahaha .__.;;;;

posts that have these kinds of fluid positioning is usually not accompanied by a vote, as well
 
you said both goon :<

i am an easily confused spider yonyon. have some mercy.

and why are you ignoring the demand to confirm the mason claim? :< the longer you are ignoring it, the fishier you seem to me O)_(O
 

Fireblend

Banned
Man, those are some lengthy posts, ynny, I almost feel like I'm an awful player because you spent that much time analyzing my posts and couldn't reach any conclusion. I'm trying :'(

Anyway, I also thought the masons thing was a joke. I'd like to echo that some clarification would be nice.
 

Ty4on

Member
you said both goon :<

i am an easily confused spider yonyon. have some mercy.

and why are you ignoring the demand to confirm the mason claim? :< the longer you are ignoring it, the fishier you seem to me O)_(O
When I said both I meant that both 2T and 0T give the same setup.

Isn't it enough for me to claim once?
 

batsnacks

Member
All of you should go pet some dogs. If you do not own your own K-9 unit, I recommend walking to the pet store and petting the dogs there.

Or walk to a dog park and watch cool dogs have fun.

That's all thanks for reading namaste
 
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