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Vehicle plows into counter protesters in Charlottesville

Same here (Marines). If you were out of shape I mean yeah they'd try to help you out but don't expect too much in boot camp. You'd basically be put in another batallion of overweight people I guess. Not exactly sure how it worked and this was also back in the 90s so I know it has changed since then. I hear they give recruits stress cards and such nowadays.
Yea.

I was in basic in 2001, so it probably has changed. All the overweight people were pushed back to another group and were given one more chance to pass the PRT and that's it.

I still can't wrap my head around the stress cards today but I guess it's for the better.
 
I have zero sympathy for any of these people, but there has got to be a post on every Neo-Nazi forum that is essentially this post but with "Nazi" swapped out for "Jew" or "black."

Nazi is not a color, it is a value set and a belief. You choose to be a nazi, you choose to be proud of hatred and violence. I choose to be a liberal, but if liberals believed in killing innocent people you better fucking believe i wouldn't choose to take part in it. There's no way to spin the idea of a nazi, and you should be ashamed of trying to equate that choice to people's skin color and religion.
 

cameron

Member
The Green Card application still asks if you were ever a Nazi sympathizer.

— Jesse Rodriguez‏ (@JesseRodriguez) Aug 13, 2017



. @Pinboard How about that. I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status (aka Green Card application)

— Richard Masoner (@cyclelicious) Dec 12, 2016


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molnizzle

Member
Yea.

I was in basic in 2001, so it probably has changed. All the overweight people were pushed back to another group and were given one more chance to pass the PRT and that's it.

I still can't wrap my head around the stress cards today but I guess it's for the better.

Stress cards are a joe wire rumor. Shit isn't real.
 

R0ckman

Member
Looked at several scenes of this on youtube. Accidentally read the comments, what the hell is up with these extremist trying to claim the driver is Jewish? Its like any time a white extremist gets into a hairy situation for doing something evil and they can't get away with it and can't be defended or they screw over other whites, other extremist label them Jewish. These people are just insane you can't debate this insanity.
 
Good looking out. I should have stated that the Norse iconography was what I was looking for. They tattoo a lot of that shit now. Your link is informative regardless.

It makes me really angry! I hope nobody here will assume that having norse runes or symbols are nazi related!! What nazism did/do, is take other cultures symbols and calling them their own.
A part of the problem is that a lot of people are not familiar with the symbolism of other religions and cultures. The Swastika is everywhere in Asia, adorning Buddhas and temples. It's really fucking sad when you have ignorant tourists who don't know the difference.

There is a cultural component to all of this as well;

After the carnage of World War II, Norse mythology became closely associated with Nazism: misinterpreted as malignant and rendered taboo for decades to come. Nazi Germany’s strong connection to Norse mythology is largely responsible for its negative reputation. The horrible atrocities committed by the Nazi regime forever tarnished the study of the Norse myths, causing them to become disregarded, even up to the present day. As a result, those who might have otherwise been interested in the incredible Viking myths and sagas avoided them for fear of being labeled a Nazi sympathizer. This is a tragedy, since Norse mythology does not in any way espouse or encourage Nazi ideology.

To counter the feelings of impotence and the stigma of defeat in the war, German nationalists began using the swastika as the party’s symbol because it had ancient Aryan/Indian origins which represented a long Germanic history. Soon, the swastika could be found on nationalist German ‘volkisch’ periodicals such as Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels’ anti-semitic publication Ostara and a multitude of other places, including the emblem for the German youth movement Wandervogel; on various Freikorps units; and as an emblem of the esoteric Thule Society. In 1920, Adolf Hitler adopted the swastika as the official symbol of the Nazi Party.

Particular attention was paid to the runes of Germanic lore, which the Ahnenerbe believed held special significance if they could be interpreted correctly. Runes found in the Middle East convinced the Nazis that the Vikings had been in the region at some point, advancing their theory that the Aryans were the master race. In addition to the power of runes, they also believed that ancient artifacts like the Holy Lance and the Crown Jewels possessed mystical powers.

Norse mythology suffered an enormous blow to its reputation because of its close association with Nazism. After the fall of Nazi Germany, Norse mythology became a taboo subject and was avoided in academia for many years. Due to the fear of being labeled a Nazi sympathizer, scholarly research stagnated; Norse archeological expeditions were de-funded, and Viking mythology gained a negative reputation that it still has not completely overcome.

The public’s perception of Norse mythology has also suffered greatly. Even though the Norse myths are totally harmless and simply had the misfortune of being bastardized by the Nazis, most people still associated Viking mythology with Nazism and racism, and while its reputation has improved over the years, the association still stubbornly remains. The bad reputation is certainly not helped any by present-day neo-Nazis.

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It's important to not let people steal symbols and cultural meanings from others. Himmler created cultural historic revision and used them to further the propaganda. If people give in and accept Nazi ideologys use of them, it's essentially condoning and accepting them as primarily being a function of nazism, and that all other cultures- Hindu, Nordic, Roman, Pagan and Aryans should let their history play fiddle to that.
Himmler desperately wanted to retrofit Viking origins under their germanic past as proof of their racial superiority, thinking that Vikings spread Aryan racial myths in far away lands.
This is similar to the Roman legends where the romans saw themselves as the superior race in their time. The legend went that Romulus and Remus, the founders of rome, were descendents of Hercules. The romans having taken the culture from the greeks, stole their gods, their philosophy, their way of war, pottery, art and directed into their own versions. Not unusual, but seeing themselves as Greeks 2.0 probably played a large part in their psyche and infamous confidence which won them many victories.
At the height of the roman empire, it was fashionable to have greek origin in your. Greek style pottery, art and clothing was the hippest thing. Almost today like how Americans will sometimes be proud if they are 1/3 Italians, or Irish or whatever, the Romans saw themselves with an almost nostalgia for the greeks culture as a more pure form of their own.


The story of the revival Gothic type is to me the most powerful examples of nazi symbolism that was able to beat its nazi connotation.

BlackletterTypeface.gif



Gothic type or Blackletters are bad ass and unique letters adorned by a very masculine style of fonts. The Fraktur Script was particularly popular in Germany, Norway, Sweden, Latvia and a few other surrounding regions by the 20th century. Today, one of those you'll recognize the most is Fette Fraktur. This is the type of The New York Times, of Corona Beer and many others!

Unlike the Didones who would appear hundreds of years later, the massive contrast between the thick and thin parts of the letters were due to the way the priests had their broad nib pens. Gothic type was originally the dominant bible font. Did it origin in Germany? Nobody really knows, but it is a possibility, so you can see why Himmler thought himself smart choosing this as the official Nazi Type. Everything he did was one big historical and cultural remix to fit everything under the narrative of German superiority.

There are different stories as to what happened, but for whatever reason, the type was banned in Germany in 1942 and labeled as "jew type". My favorite theory is that, due to the types poor legibility, the nazi regime would send letters to far away outposts and places where people where not used to reading this difficult style, and this caused massive problems. Basically they blamed the poor legibility on the jews, like everything else.

After the war, Gothic type was a total taboo. Its use had marked some of the worst slgans, banners and posters all over the western world. Blackletters were used all over the western Europe, not just in Germany, but it was too late, as the post-war scrambled everyone to distance themselves from nazism.
Blackletters has gotten a revival in the last 40 years through Punk, skater culture, Goth culture, fantasy.

Basically the lettering beat its evil connotation within a single lifetime, and it basically reminds us, that symbols, iconography, typography and wordmarks can be taken, but they can also be taken back.
The more people who are educated on it, the better. I'd really not like my friends to get punched in the face because they have a tatoo of Yggdrassill, or nordic runes saying their name, or Thors hammer. These are not nazi symbols, and they never will be, regardless of how much these people try to shoehorn their fake faux history into it. Ultimately it's people who choose what things symbolizes, but it also takes the majority population to accept that a symbol has been taken by others.
 
Looked at several scenes of this on youtube. Accidentally read the comments, what the hell is up with these extremist trying to claim the driver is Jewish? Its like any time a white extremist gets into a hairy situation for doing something evil and they can't get away with it and can't be defended or they screw over other whites, other extremist label them Jewish. These people are just insane you can't debate this insanity.

They also claimed that 9/11 was a false flag operation orchestrated by our government, which in turn obeys one true master: globalist jews.

The people you are talking about are out of their fucking minds with racist/bigoted conspiracy theories.
 

Belfast

Member
Looked at several scenes of this on youtube. Accidentally read the comments, what the hell is up with these extremist trying to claim the driver is Jewish? Its like any time a white extremist gets into a hairy situation for doing something evil and they can't get away with it and can't be defended or they screw over other whites, other extremist label them Jewish. These people are just insane you can't debate this insanity.

Just like our president, all of these people are chronically in denial, unable to self-reflect, and don't have the ability or desire to deal with the consequences of their actions.

Stripping away all other labels, whats's being normalized right now are people who externalize all of their internal problems and issues. Combine fragility, feelings of inadequacy, rage issues, and ineptitude, and you've got the powder keg that is the alt-right.
 

Steel

Banned
I have zero sympathy for any of these people, but there has got to be a post on every Neo-Nazi forum that is essentially this post but with "Nazi" swapped out for "Jew" or "black."

Being a Nazi says a lot about a person. So being a jew or black says enough about a person to judge their character for this equivalence to work, right?

I can't believe this shit even needs to be said.
 

jabuseika

Member
We're really discussing whether it's okay to punch a Nazi?

Seriously, it's never not okay to punch a Nazi. In fact, it should be a crime to not punch a Nazi when you happen upon one. Of a group encounters a Nazi, form an orderly line and take your shots one at a time.

Call the police, tell them you found a Nazi. The response should be: "did you punch him? No? Get to it before I arrest you both!" When the Nazi gets tossed in jail, his cell mates should be informed he is a Nazi, so they can punch him on the hour, every hour.

That should also include the "I'm not a Nazi, I just march with Nazis" individuals.
 

Evening Musuko

Black Korea
Ugh this whole ugly event has brought out some gross behavior out of people online.


Time to cut ties with more people on social media.

A "friend" tried to pull the same shit yesterday. He pretty much blamed the protesters for not "protesting properly" and he was coming from a "neutral perspective". I blocked his ass along with another friend who tried to pull the "lefist driver" bullshit. They both voted for Trump but I pretty much ignored them because they would keep to themselves but then they decided to show their asses. Honestly, I should have blocked them months ago.
 

JJMorris

Member
You can't be this stupid, did you skip your history class?

I think he is saying literally Nazis would write the same thing, but they both come off with very different meanings. Just pointing it out, etc. I don't think he is advocating for both sides, or he is saying to be soft on Nazis. Because you would have to be stupid to write something like that, with that intention.
 

Yeoman

Member
Ugh this whole ugly event has brought out some gross behavior out of people online.


Time to cut ties with more people on social media.
Contact their employer - seriously. They wouldn't get away with saying it out loud in public so why should they get away with it on an even larger platform?
 

Ishan

Junior Member
It makes me really angry! I hope nobody here will assume that having norse runes or symbols are nazi related!! What nazism did/do, is take other cultures symbols and calling them their own.
A part of the problem is that a lot of people are not familiar with the symbolism of other religions and cultures. The Swastika is everywhere in Asia, adorning Buddhas and temples. It's really fucking sad when you have ignorant tourists who don't know the difference.

There is a cultural component to all of this as well;









Blog

It's important to not let people steal symbols and cultural meanings from others. Himmler created cultural historic revision and used them to further the propaganda. If people give in and accept Nazi ideologys use of them, it's essentially condoning and accepting them as primarily being a function of nazism, and that all other cultures- Hindu, Nordic, Roman, Pagan and Aryans should let their history play fiddle to that.
Himmler desperately wanted to retrofit Viking origins under their germanic past as proof of their racial superiority, thinking that Vikings spread Aryan racial myths in far away lands.
This is similar to the Roman legends where the romans saw themselves as the superior race in their time. The legend went that Romulus and Remus, the founders of rome, were descendents of Hercules. The romans having taken the culture from the greeks, stole their gods, their philosophy, their way of war, pottery, art and directed into their own versions. Not unusual, but seeing themselves as Greeks 2.0 probably played a large part in their psyche and infamous confidence which won them many victories.
At the height of the roman empire, it was fashionable to have greek origin in your. Greek style pottery, art and clothing was the hippest thing. Almost today like how Americans will sometimes be proud if they are 1/3 Italians, or Irish or whatever, the Romans saw themselves with an almost nostalgia for the greeks culture as a more pure form of their own.


The story of the revival Gothic type is to me the most powerful examples of nazi symbolism that was able to beat its nazi connotation.

BlackletterTypeface.gif



Gothic type or Blackletters are bad ass and unique letters adorned by a very masculine style of fonts. The Fraktur Script was particularly popular in Germany, Norway, Sweden, Latvia and a few other surrounding regions by the 20th century. Today, one of those you'll recognize the most is Fette Fraktur. This is the type of The New York Times, of Corona Beer and many others!

Unlike the Didones who would appear hundreds of years later, the massive contrast between the thick and thin parts of the letters were due to the way the priests had their broad nib pens. Gothic type was originally the dominant bible font. Did it origin in Germany? Nobody really knows, but it is a possibility, so you can see why Himmler thought himself smart choosing this as the official Nazi Type. Everything he did was one big historical and cultural remix to fit everything under the narrative of German superiority.

There are different stories as to what happened, but for whatever reason, the type was banned in Germany in 1942 and labeled as "jew type". My favorite theory is that, due to the types poor legibility, the nazi regime would send letters to far away outposts and places where people where not used to reading this difficult style, and this caused massive problems. Basically they blamed the poor legibility on the jews, like everything else.

After the war, Gothic type was a total taboo. Its use had marked some of the worst slgans, banners and posters all over the western world. Blackletters were used all over the western Europe, not just in Germany, but it was too late, as the post-war scrambled everyone to distance themselves from nazism.
Blackletters has gotten a revival in the last 40 years through Punk, skater culture, Goth culture, fantasy.

Basically the lettering beat its evil connotation within a single lifetime, and it basically reminds us, that symbols, iconography, typography and wordmarks can be taken, but they can also be taken back.
The more people who are educated on it, the better. I'd really not like my friends to get punched in the face because they have a tatoo of Yggdrassill, or nordic runes saying their name, or Thors hammer. These are not nazi symbols, and they never will be, regardless of how much these people try to shoehorn their fake faux history into it. Ultimately it's people who choose what things symbolizes, but it also takes the majority population to accept that a symbol has been taken by others.

i mean the fucking swastika is indian but has a completely different meaning now.
 

Hackworth

Member
I have zero sympathy for any of these people, but there has got to be a post on every Neo-Nazi forum that is essentially this post but with "Nazi" swapped out for "Jew" or "black."
Probably, because the core motivation of Nazis is that they want to kill everyone who isn't sufficiently Nazi.

Meanwhile, we want to protect people from Nazis. Different motivation.
 

Oriel

Member
Looked at several scenes of this on youtube. Accidentally read the comments, what the hell is up with these extremist trying to claim the driver is Jewish?

Just some sad cunts attempting to justify it in their minds. Can't have a case of a Nazi murdering an innocent white Aryan, oh no.
 

a.wd

Member
I hate racists, I would punch a Nazi in the throat, you know why? Because I have children, I have a mother, I have family and friends who are all minorities of some description.

There should be no equivocation, white supremacy should be a crime, when you advocate for the removal of other races guess what mother fucker that means at some point you want a fight.

And I am down for that like you would not believe. I will fight for the right for you to say, be and express your personal truth like an animal. But when your personal truth wants to eradicate me or anyone I love then I will put Foot to Ass in opposition to your views.

The little spineless chuckleheads who went out to protest against what the removal of famous white supremacists icons like that is a removal of cultural identity? You have no right and deserve every cost a civilised society can put on you.

You should have pain and suffering and you deserve to be shown up as a complete fucking scumbag, you should walk into a job interview and the person should look up and say "Holy shit, I didn't think an asshole like you would even walk in here! I only offered a face to face because I wanted to see if you had the balls to actually turn up! No way, hold on I am going to assemble the whole office as some of the guys bought rotten tomatoes just in case, wow we had a poll going to see if you would turn up, this is going t be so much fun!"

These arseholes don't have differing beliefs in much the same way that paedophiles, murderers and the kind of people who prey on innocents don't have differing beliefs, they are evil and should be recognised as such, this absolute scumbag who ran over a girl deserves the death penalty, as do all fascists, they don't get the right to free speech they should be tossed in a washing machine filled with bricks and razor blades. I believe that of any group who seeks to kill, harm or in any way impair my life because I don't fit their arbitrary view of what a human is if you define me as an enemy then the only rational response is to view you as the same.

I wrote all this, then thought I don't want to teach my kids that anger and aggressiveness are virtues, so what is the solution, we live in a society where the structure of the society protects the arseholes and punishes the peacemakers, we need to mobilise and recognise the strength in inherent good and not allow fuckwits like Bannon et all to mobilise angry disenfranchised mobs to support something like trump.

I keep saying it but economic equalisation leads to a better more productive society, where racists are a lot less likely to have any traction.

It's hard to hate the other when everyone is doing well and society is working well for all.
 

III-V

Member
I just watched some new footage on MSNBC of this guy driving through town with his busted ass car, several cops looking at the car like wtf and keep walking. He was driving with his windows down for crying out loud.

Can't find it anywhere or I would post it, really shuts down all these idiot false flag alex jones wankers.
 

Nasbin

Member
This Nazi fuck is only 20 years old. Where. was. he. radicalized?

Show me the Youtube "skeptics" this shitstain is subscribed to and grew up on and I'll show you at least half the answer. Social media has been weaponized by the absolute worst dregs of humanity.
 

besada

Banned
The next time someone says something phenomenally stupid, let's not quote it for the next two pages like simpletons, okay?
 

BLAUcopter

Gold Member
Thanks..couldn't find a picture, for some reason. Odd, the media isn't talking about this particular phenomenon..it's quite blatant and telling.

If this were a mob dressed like Obama at a Black Panther rally I'm pretty sure you would hear about it non stop.

I truly feel sorry for America and the good Americans out there :(
 

CHC

Member
Ugh this whole ugly event has brought out some gross behavior out of people online.


Time to cut ties with more people on social media.

Was Life Lesson #2 "If you see an airplane flying towards your 80th floor office, get outta there ya dum-dum 😊."

I swear to god some people so fucking eager to justify whatever they see as OK because the victims deserve it. Complicit assholes, I can't take them anymore.
 
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