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Vehicle plows into counter protesters in Charlottesville

Was Life Lesson #2 "If you see an airplane flying towards your 80th floor office, get outta there ya dum-dum 😊."

I swear to god some people so fucking eager to justify whatever they see as OK because the victims deserve it. Complicit assholes, I can't take them anymore.

I'm pretty sure at this point over half the country consists of nothing but assholes.
 

Ithil

Member
The Guardian found another picture of the terrorist at a Nazi rally decked out in his white supremacist starter kit

50009esrr.jpg


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-pictured-at-neo-nazi-rally-vanguard-america

Gotta love how all their iron-on level symbols are in different directions. His fasces looks like a pair of rolling pins.
 

Oriel

Member
GoFundme page Dre Harris (black dude who was beat up by Nazi's in the car park)

https://www.gofundme.com/i-was-beaten-by-white-supremacists
(Warning, he uses a pic of his injuries and it is nasty as fuck)

Fucking disgusting that he has to rely on charity from strangers to pay for his medical bills. If the police had been doing their damn jobs he wouldn't have needed this to begin with. Who the fuck would want to emigrate to America in all honesty?
 

Two Words

Member
Just a reminder, because it's getting lost in all of this, that part of the reason things got so violent yesterday are the cops, who ain't shit either and are borderline complicit in white supremacy.

White supremacists push up against riot line... With no consequence.

This is the system at work.

Cops feel the need to show restraint against white people because they know there would be more public backlash against beating white people. Plus, they probably don't have as much of a personal desire to beat white people as they do black people.
 
The fact we have nazis in 2017 is just shitty. Like how shit your life must be to become a racist asshole and one who literally is willing to kill people who were protesting for the good.
 

WhatNXt

Member
As someone who is in the UK currently for work, it has been fascinating seeing how this news is reported here versus in Murica.

I haven't been able to bring myself to watch the BBC or any other domestic news since the UK General Election since they're all crap, but they're usually pretty good at documenting things outside our borders. What are they saying?
 
The Guardian found another picture of the terrorist at a Nazi rally decked out in his white supremacist starter kit

50009esrr.jpg


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-pictured-at-neo-nazi-rally-vanguard-america
Do these people realise how fucking stupid they look?

Could you imagine looking in the mirror at your dumb fucking haircut, your trimmed and yet somehow also unkempt beard, pull on your grandpa chinos, grab your poorly painted wooden shield, glue on your MS paint printed off symbols and genuinely, without any semblance of irony look into the mirror and go 'I am part of the superior race and will conquer this country.'

Fuck you, you dime store cosplayers.

Just because seven of you can beat up an unarmed black guy doesn't mean your badasses or just like the nazis you look up to. You're fucking idiots. Childish nerds playing at white nationalism. Fuck you.

As someone who is in the UK currently for work, it has been fascinating seeing how this news is reported here versus in Murica.
How've they been doing it? Haven't followed much UK or US news, Gaf has actually done a great job and keeping me up on this.
 

rjinaz

Member
We Hunted The Mammoth has some pretty good examples of how the alt-right has reacted to the death of Heyer. Spoiler, don't expect compassion:

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2...-murder-of-heather-heyer-by-one-of-their-own/

All right then, if that's the way they want to be, no quarter.

Vomits. Yay free speech!

I love how some of them mention God wanting this. God must be an evil sonofabitch just like them.

Quick somebody point me to all the Left shit after a tragedy, you know so we can appease the both siders of GAF.
 
Vomits. Yay free speech!

I love how some of them mention God wanting this. God must be an evil sonofabitch just like them.

Quick somebody point me to all the Left shit after a tragedy, you know so we can appease the both siders of GAF.

They're not coming, they know they'll look stupid as hell making a both sides argument. Doesn't stop them from continuing though.
 
Its a little strange seeing all the diet racists on my FB condemn this. Racial hatred and extremism is easy to point out but they all have mental blocks when it comes to institutional racism.

This Charlottesville situation is terrible. I'm in fear of copycat attacks at future rallies.
 
Its a little strange seeing all the diet racists on my FB condemn this. Racial hatred and extremism is easy to point out but they all have mental blocks when it comes to institutional racism.

This Charlottesville situation is terrible. I'm in fear of copycat attacks at future rallies.

This was the flash-point these cretins wanted. Expect gunfire from these assholes, and a concerted effort to claim that it's simply self-defense against a violent AtiFA.

The dam is broken, we all must prepare for the deluge.
 

asagami_

Banned
Fucking disgusting that he has to rely on charity from strangers to pay for his medical bills. If the police had been doing their damn jobs he wouldn't have needed this to begin with. Who the fuck would want to emigrate to America in all honesty?

But America is good for immigrants and people of color and they don't have any to be afraid

/s

Fuck anyone who don't condemn this nazis alt-right bigots and their movement of hate.
 
I think their plans of wearing polos and khakis to ensure their physical image is a positive one is backfiring. Their clothes are ill fitting and out of place.

In fact having a strict uniform removes the defense that they are unstructured or a group of lone wolves.
 

Beefy

Member
Fucking disgusting that he has to rely on charity from strangers to pay for his medical bills. If the police had been doing their damn jobs he wouldn't have needed this to begin with. Who the fuck would want to emigrate to America in all honesty?

Yep, the US is fucked up
 

Crosseyes

Banned
This was the flash-point these cretins wanted. Expect gunfire from these assholes, and a concerted effort to claim that it's simply self-defense against a violent AtiFA.

The dam is broken, we all must prepare for the deluge.
Yep. Civil war won't be the miltary of the US breaking up and choosing sides, it will be citizens fighting and dying in the streets while state authority remains unengaged.

When the rallies continue and a skirmish breaks out getting multiple nazis and antifa patriots killed the 'both sides' rhetoric will be in full force and if police intervene they'll turn their guns on the DSA, BLM and similar groups before opening fire on evil.
 

smisk

Member
https://twitter.com/copcemetery/status/896947418536792064

Thread from a self-described Marxist about a vigil for Heather he went to. Wondering what you guys think.
He makes some valid points, but I feel like this type of attitude turns people off from the DSA and similar groups. I'm solidly to the left, but this type of intense criticism of neoliberals/center-left people kinda rubs me the wrong way. It's better to educate than condemn IMO.
 
Yooo..that peanut peckerd pussy has been popping up on my YouTube feed at a strange rate! I only know of him because of the "recommended videos", which makes it even more bizarre. I only watch gaming/review videos, for the most part, and i'm pretty religious about clearing my view history. It's annoying as shit.

Sackless Sargon got his fame out of the GamerGate shitstorm.

The GamerGate and alt-right Venn diagram is a single circle.
 

thill1985

Banned
These people support ethnic cleansing, eugenics, second and third tier citizenship for people they deem "lower class" or "inferior" and in many cases, they want partial or wholesale genocide. I wish them pain, torment, and hellfire, like what their brethren received 70 years ago.

Wishing something bad would happen to them is not the same thing as assaulting them. It saddens me how many folks here and elsewhere are willing to lower their standards to satiate some stupid blood lust. The principles we on the left clung to (rightfully) a week ago are suddenly gone for so many ppl. It's a pathetic way to respond to what happened imho.

The appropriate response should be to enforce hate speech laws to the letter and throw the book at ppl who engage in it. Even if that hate speech is anti-Nazi, btw. Threatening ppl due to their beliefs is not ok just because you really, REALLY hate the people you target and believe they are subhuman.

White supremacy is not a nation with soldiers. It is an idea and you can't eradicate ideas with violence. You have to work to marginalize those ideas within society. Push for tougher hate speech laws and push for their strict enforcement.
 

TalonJH

Member
Going down the Twitter hole on this subject can be terrifying. Apparently, this disphit only did this because those protestors were Soros-funded Antifa group.

ugh...




Good.

Yeah, I was hoping the one time people would come together was to condemn a Nazi that literally killed someone and hurt others.


...Nope.
 

thill1985

Banned
You wouldn't think that you would have to convince people that haven't "made up their minds" to not be Nazis, but here we are.

As I said, not everyone has the luxury of paying attention to politics so lots of folks in the ignorant middle just don't recognize ppl like Spencer or Duke by their face. They might just see them peddling some propaganda and politicking and not write them off without that background knowledge. Happens constantly on social media, where ppl who aren't racists will post some racist meme from some outright racist nutjob online without even knowing it. All they know is it seems to make sense, since memes often don't include context for anything or outright make shit up to trick exactly these folks in the middle.

Almost nobody wants to be a Nazi. We won that battle socially already. But ppl will still fall for Nazi or racist propaganda without realizing it is sourced to Neo Nazis, the KKK, etc. We need to recognize this and respond intelligently instead of seeking to alienate the ppl we want on our side.
 

sphagnum

Banned
Listened to some right wing radio this morning, it's the same shit. "Look, we hate Nazis, but they have the right to assemble, and if these Antifa people - who are fascists too because they hate free speech - hadn't been trying to shut down the rally, none of this would have happened! Tomorrow we're gonna have Milo on the show to discuss."
 

norm9

Member
White supremacy is not a nation with soldiers. It is an idea and you can't eradicate ideas with violence. You have to work to marginalize those ideas within society. Push for tougher hate speech laws and push for their strict enforcement.

Why not both? Let's work on laws and at the same time beat the shit out of nazis.
 

Garlador

Member
Listened to some right wing radio this morning, it's the same shit. "Look, we hate Nazis, but they have the right to assemble, and if these Antifa people - who are fascists too because they hate free speech - hadn't been trying to shut down the rally, none of this would have happened! Tomorrow we're gonna have Milo on the show to discuss."

Unbelievable.

And a gross misunderstanding of free speech to boot.
 

sphagnum

Banned
https://twitter.com/copcemetery/status/896947418536792064

Thread from a self-described Marxist about a vigil for Heather he went to. Wondering what you guys think.
He makes some valid points, but I feel like this type of attitude turns people off from the DSA and similar groups. I'm solidly to the left, but this type of intense criticism of neoliberals/center-left people kinda rubs me the wrong way. It's better to educate than condemn IMO.

He's blowing off steam (went too far with "line em up against a wall") but his points are valid. As a communist, considering the conditions on the ground in this country, I know there is no path to victory going alone. We'd be crushed. For now we have to work within and/or alongside the existing parties because the country is overwhelmingly liberal in the classical sense and socialism is only now becoming a thing on people's radar.

But I do hope for the day when the political divide in this country becomes socialists and liberals, not liberals and fascists.

DSA in general is way more moderate than this dude by the way.
 
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