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James Cameron's TITANIC |OT| Collide With Destiny

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Iceman

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Just saw it. I said wow at the 3D. Really impressed. They did a phenomenal job with the post-production. Every scene had 3D implemented at least in some subtle way - the attention to detail was staggering.

The movie is still the same of course.. although there may have been a few extra shots that I don't remember.

4 big things:
1) in retrospect, it almost seems that the movie was intended to be shot in 3D because the scenes mostly lent themselves to it. In some scenes it was a stretch (so to speak).. but most were really well done.

2) I think I have become so accustomed to HD at home, and CG quality in films has progressed so much, because the CG is so apparent to me now. Still holds up fairly well though. I said "fairly."

3) This doubles as some kind of experiment on vision.. the longest movie I've ever seen (or most people will ever see) with 3D glasses on. When I left the theater my vision was wacky.. my normal vision was amped in a way so that real life was in extra-3D. I'll describe it like this.. you know if you hold up something heavy for a few minutes (like bench pressing) and then you take the weight off, you're arms want to keep pushing out, fighting gravity + the weight you just had on? It's like your eyes get accustomed to a certain exercise and then you take the glasses off and the muscles are still firing.

Driving was interesting after that. Be forewarned.

It's a good kind of feeling though.

*I will say the effect on me may have been augmented by my lack of eating today.

4) I was immediately pissed that Cameron didn't post-convert The Abyss first.. those underwater scenes were jaw-droppingly amazing.

Summary: awesome visual experience.
 

GhaleonEB

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Too tired to say much other than it's still freaking amazing.



I was the only one in the theater, which was neat since I bawled my eyes out. Also, I had a beverage with dinner on the way there (went straight to the movie from work), which was a dire mistake. The liquid landed on my bladder around the time the iceberg showed up, and didn't let up. As I don't take pee breaks during movies (at least, not good ones), a bit later I undid my belt buckle to take some of the pressure off my bladder (I was curled into a ball at the end).

Walking out of the theater, the lone employee (waiting for just me, sorry!) said good night and then gave me a really weird look. It wasn't until I got in the car that I realized my belt was undone. She probably thought I was in there on my lonesome, fapping away.

Whoops.
 
Too tired to say much other than it's still freaking amazing.



I was the only one in the theater, which was neat since I bawled my eyes out. Also, I had a beverage with dinner on the way there (went straight to the movie from work), which was a dire mistake. The liquid landed on my bladder around the time the iceberg showed up, and didn't let up. As I don't take pee breaks during movies (at least, not good ones), a bit later I undid my belt buckle to take some of the pressure off my bladder (I was curled into a ball at the end).

Walking out of the theater, the lone employee (waiting for just me, sorry!) said good night and then gave me a really weird look. It wasn't until I got in the car that I realized my belt was undone. She probably thought I was in there on my lonesome, fapping away.

Whoops.

Bahahaha! You were the only one in the theatre! Obviously should have just pissed in the cup you were drinking from. ITS JUST LOGIC.
 

zethren

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Bahahaha! You were the only one in the theatre! Obviously should have just pissed in the cup you were drinking from. ITS JUST LOGIC.

Yeah, and that's when he forgets that he pissed in the cup and takes a subconscious swig of it later on in the movie. Baaaaad idea.
 

Ashhong

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Walking out of the theater, the lone employee (waiting for just me, sorry!) said good night and then gave me a really weird look. It wasn't until I got in the car that I realized my belt was undone. She probably thought I was in there on my lonesome, fapping away.

Whoops.

That is classic! Probably thought you really enjoyed the 3D boobs
 

D23

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none of my friends wanted to see this and i honestly dont feel like asking a girl out just for this, so im gonna go solo tomorrow lol. titanic is one of my favorite movie of all time, im gonna bawl like a baby!
 
That is classic! Probably thought you really enjoyed the 3D boobs

Is it just me or was the nude scene a bit of a let down in 3d? There were other scenes with her assets that seemed handled a bit better.

none of my friends wanted to see this and i honestly dont feel like asking a girl out just for this, so im gonna go solo tomorrow lol. titanic is one of my favorite movie of all time, im gonna bawl like a baby!
That´s what I ended up doing. It was worth it.
 

StuBurns

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I just watched the new little two minutes video on Apple Trailers, showing the conversion process. I knew the basic concept, but it was cool to see it. One thing they don't explain, which I don't understand, is how they create the 'sides' of an image. Wouldn't there be notable image warping from the conversion process? I can see why the 2D Disney stuff would work great, but I don't know how they're covering that with normal films.
 
I saw Kate's baps on the biggest screen in the world. Her nipples gave me as good an indication of the room temperature of that sitting room as any reliable thermostat could.
 

DrForester

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I saw Kate's baps on the biggest screen in the world. Her nipples gave me as good an indication of the room temperature of that sitting room as any reliable thermostat could.

In my head I hear Mel Brooks during that scene saying "it's good to be the king"
 
Nothing hits me more than the moment where the flare goes off behind Leo's head as Rose is being lowered away. Well, maybe the very end scene with that ol' pan up to the ceiling.
 

Cheebo

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Surprised Sculli isn't commenting on what is being seen at the various boxoffice sites as a pretty weak opening day for Titanic and a rather middling projected opening 5 day weekend. Hunger Games might have even beat it on opening day yesterday.
 
Surprised Sculli isn't commenting on what is being seen at the various boxoffice sites as a pretty weak opening day for Titanic and a rather middling projected opening 5 day weekend. Hunger Games might have even beat it on opening day yesterday.

Why surprised? Titanic isn't about opening weekends.

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I don't know what it's like in the rest of the world but I have seen zero advertising for this =/ Hunger Games is all over the place however. Netherlands.

Edit: Btw, are ticket sales going to be added up to the original, meaning it could take over the first place again? Though there seems to be a big gap in sales between Avatar and Titanic in the USA. Didn't see world wide.
 

StuBurns

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Nothing hits me more than the moment where the flare goes off behind Leo's head as Rose is being lowered away. Well, maybe the very end scene with that ol' pan up to the ceiling.
My favorite scene is when Cal grabs the gun and it goes to slow motion. All the shit Jack and Rose have already gone through, and they're about to be hunted, horrible, and awesome.

EDIT: It also features my favorite shot in the film, when he shoots down into the water between the stairs.
 

Cheebo

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Why surprised? Titanic isn't about opening weekends.

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Hunger Games is going to easily beat it out this weekend and likely even possibly beat it yesterday and Titanic is on track to have a opening weekend less than Star Wars Episode 1 3D and The Lion King 3D. That isn't good.

Will have between 20-30 mil for the full 5 day opening weekend after Sunday. Which is the range Star Wars & Lion King had for just a 3 day weekend.

I guess this will be the first time a Cameron movie isn't #1 opening weekend since what, Abyss? Original Terminator?
 
My favorite scene is when Cal grabs the gun and it goes to slow motion. All the shit Jack and Rose have already gone through, and they're about to be hunted, horrible, and awesome.

EDIT: It also features my favorite shot in the film, when he shoots down into the water between the stairs.

Ha! Saw the bruising on Jack's face when him and Rose hide and immediately thought of the cut fight scene with Lovejoy.


Hunger Games is going to easily beat it out this weekend and likely even bea it yesterday and it is on track to have a opening weekend less than Star Wars Episode 1 3D and The Lion King 3D. That isn't good.

Will have between 20-30 mil for the full 5 day opening weekend after Sunday. Which is the range Star Wars & Lion King had for just a 3 day weekend.

I don't think you quite understand what that picture means.
 

StuBurns

Banned
Ha! Saw the bruising on Jack's face when him and Rose hide and immediately thought of the cut fight scene with Lovejoy.
I recently rewatched The Abyss, the theatrical cut, and the scene when he's holding her hand, but it's strained blue from getting his ring out of the toilet, which isn't in that cut, was kind of distracting. I wonder if people would have noticed that without knowing about the toilet thing.
 

Cheebo

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Ha! Saw the bruising on Jack's face when him and Rose hide and immediately thought of the cut fight scene with Lovejoy.




I don't think you quite understand what that picture means.

Well you predicted in April the boxoffice will be all about Titanic and will make more than Hunger Games in April and seeing how Hunger Games is going to easily hold #1 this weekend that isn't likely happening either. ;)

Wish I made an avatar bet about it, oh well.
 
Well you predicted in April the boxoffice will be all about Titanic and will make more than Hunger Games in April and seeing how Hunger Games is going to easily hold #1 this weekend that isn't likely happening either. ;)

Wish I made an avatar bet about it, oh well.

I did indeed say there was a good chance that Titanic's overall April take will outgross THG's overall April take. It is still not out of the question.

If you were Titanic savvy you could have gotten all that info from the picture. Alas, we are not all blessed with an encyclopedic knowledge of Titanic references.
 

Cheebo

Banned
I can't see that happening. It is doing the middling average numbers of previous 3D releases and tracking has that continuing throughout the weekend. And 3D releases are kicked out of theaters a lot quicker than non re-release movies.

Avatar gets to keep its #1 domestic all time title at the very least.
 

Cheebo

Banned
I'll help you.

Take her to sea, Mr. Murdoch. LET'S STRETCH HER LEGS.

It's a 3D re-release. It won't leg it out. Theaters get rid of them pretty damn fast. Especially when it has weak opening like Titanic is having.

I mean it's doing worse than Episode I 3D...that is painful.
 

Kagari

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Cameron's films typically open smaller but have massive legs. The 100th anniversary of the sinking will probably contribute to that.
 

GhaleonEB

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It's a 3D re-release. It won't leg it out. Theaters get rid of them pretty damn fast. Especially when it has weak opening like Titanic is having.

I mean it's doing worse than Episode I 3D...that is painful.

Did you just compare a Wednesday opening of a 3-hour movie to a Friday opening of a two-hour one? You did? Oh my.
 

Cheebo

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Did you just compare a Wednesday opening of a 3-hour movie to a Friday opening of a two-hour one? You did? Oh my.

I am comparing it to the 5 day opening weekend. Which is now projected to do between 20-30 mil for the 5 day opening. Which isn't anything to write home about. It's going to do under Hunger Games for Easter weekend.
 
Cheebs has to be trolling. I know for a fact he's not that inept about Cameron's box office history.

Either way, it was fucking amazing. I thought the 3D was extremely well done but in the end it was ultimately pointless. I didn't feel like I got anything extra out of it. I still would have rather seen it in 2D.

But man, what an amazing movie. I think I'll probably go again before it leaves theaters. It was the best time I've spent in a theater in a long time.

The scene that always gets me is Rose jumping from the life boat and Jack and Rose running to meet each other. The music and the cinematography come together in such a way that it's just perfect. Absolute perfection. Especially holding my wife's hand and feeling her squeeze my hand when they embrace <3 <3 Good God what an incredible movie. The entire theater was absolutely silent from the sinking on.
 

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Is the 3D in this better then Starwars. 'Cause that was shite.
 

Scarecrow

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It's probably earlier in the thread, but does anyone have a screen shot of the starry sky change between the old and new version?
 
Also, since everyone was talking about bad bits of dialogue in the movie I think some of the worst offenders are the comedic relief that aren't really necessary.

Jack's "You wanna walk a little faster through that valley there?" is the worst IMO. It falls completely flat and trips up the pacing/atmosphere. Luckily there isn't much focus on it but someone needs to tell Cameron that comedic relief isn't necessary in every long dramatic scene. Sometimes I just want the drama.
 

GhaleonEB

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Also, since everyone was talking about bad bits of dialogue in the movie I think some of the worst offenders are the comedic relief that aren't really necessary.

Jack's "You wanna walk a little faster through that valley there?" is the worst IMO. It falls completely flat and trips up the pacing/atmosphere. Luckily there isn't much focus on it but someone needs to tell Cameron that comedic relief isn't necessary in every long dramatic scene. Sometimes I just want the drama.

I like that line a lot; there's a lot of dark humor punctuated through that sequence but have never found that he pushed it too far. (The cut "bring me some ice" like from Molly is an example of what I would find objectionable.)


I was impressed with the 3D. As Sculli said it really improved the early wreak exploration scenes. But I thought it helped in some others as well. In particular:

The confusion and claustrophobia when Rose was searching the halls of the ship was improved by adding depth to the hallways, it felt more terrifying and hopeless.

I literally winced at the dome implosion. Partly because of the audio, which felt much punchier, but also because of how the 3D made it really feel like I was being suddenly submerged.

The flying and drawing scenes were wonderfully reworked in 3D; something about the rich golden color tones worked really well; they felt like 3D paintings to watch. Still hilarious.

The sinking sequence, as people leapt/fell from great heights, were improved with it. Some of the jumps were more vertigo-inducing with the added depth. Propeller dude was even more painful at times.

I noticed that through many of the action scenes, the 3D seemed toned down, which reinforces my view that conversions generally don't work because the underlying film wasn't filmed and cut with it in mind. Cameron wisely pulled it back because the light strobing and faster cutting makes it harder to adjust to the changing depth planes. Most of the rest of the film is shot with Cameron's layered images and long takes, so they adapted well to 3D.

All in all I was impressed and would recommend seeing it in 3D. It's not on the level of say, Avatar or Hugo in 3D, but it's probably as good a conversion and could possibly be made.
 
I like that line a lot; there's a lot of dark humor punctuated through that sequence but have never found that he pushed it too far. (The cut "bring me some ice" like from Molly is an example of what I would find objectionable.)


I was impressed with the 3D. As Sculli said it really improved the early wreak exploration scenes. But I thought it helped in some others as well. In particular:

The confusion and claustrophobia when Rose was searching the halls of the ship was improved by adding depth to the hallways, it felt more terrifying and hopeless.

I literally winced at the dome implosion. Partly because of the audio, which felt much punchier, but also because of how the 3D made it really feel like I was being suddenly submerged.

The flying and drawing scenes were wonderfully reworked in 3D; something about the rich golden color tones worked really well; they felt like 3D paintings to watch. Still hilarious.

The sinking sequence, as people leapt/fell from great heights, were improved with it. Some of the jumps were more vertigo-inducing with the added depth. Propeller dude was even more painful at times.

I noticed that through many of the action scenes, the 3D seemed toned down, which reinforces my view that conversions generally don't work because the underlying film wasn't filmed and cut with it in mind. Cameron wisely pulled it back because the light strobing and faster cutting makes it harder to adjust to the changing depth planes. Most of the rest of the film is shot with Cameron's layered images and long takes, so they adapted well to 3D.

All in all I was impressed and would recommend seeing it in 3D. It's not on the level of say, Avatar or Hugo in 3D, but it's probably as good a conversion and could possibly be made.
The only scenes that gave me chills from the 3D was the scene where the ship is raising and the camera shows a lifeboat in the foreground and people in the water while the propellers are rising. That one blew me away. The scale was surreal. The other one was the boat going through the bodies at the end. The 3D was awesome in that one and really brought out the vast amount of bodies floating in the water. The rest didn't do much for me. It looked good but nothing that really stood out for me as making much of an impact on me.

As for the dark humor, it just doesn't flow for me. The way it's cut is partly to blame. That particular line really seems like it's interjected with no thought about its placement. It ruins the flow for me and feels forced. It's not a deal breaker by any means but I always hate it when it comes up.

Edit: And for example, I find the deprecating dark humor more fitting. Rose's mother saying "Will the life boats seated according to class?" fits so much better to me. And then Molly saying "First class seats are right up here". The context of it is thought out much better. It fits the scene and isn't just thrown in. And instead of being "ha-ha!" it's more of a "ha. what a friggin bitch" and reinforces several of the movie's themes.
 

GhaleonEB

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The only scenes that gave me chills from the 3D was the scene where the ship is raising and the camera shows a lifeboat in the foreground and people in the water while the propellers are rising. That one blew me away. The scale was surreal. The other one was the boat going through the bodies at the end. The 3D was awesome in that one and really brought out the vast amount of bodies floating in the water. The rest didn't do much for me. It looked good but nothing that really stood out for me as making much of an impact on me.

As for the dark humor, it just doesn't flow for me. The way it's cut is partly to blame. That particular line really seems like it's interjected with no thought about its placement. It ruins the flow for me and feels forced. It's not a deal breaker by any means but I always hate it when it comes up.

Edit: And for example, I find the deprecating dark humor more fitting. Rose's mother saying "Will the life boats seated according to class?" fits so much better to me. And then Molly saying "First class seats are right up here". The context of it is thought out much better. It fits the scene and isn't just thrown in. And instead of being "ha-ha!" it's more of a "ha. what a friggin bitch" and reinforces several of the movie's themes.
I agree in general. I think the reason I didn't object to Jack's line there is because it's consistant with his character and some of the lines he had through to that point. ("I'll just wait here!") So I understand what you're saying, it's just clicked with me differently.

I did forget about the 3D effect after the ship went down. The pan back from Rose to show all the survivors in the water was breathtaking, as was the rescue boat going through the field of bodies after. It really helped sell the scale of it all.
 
You're right. It is consistent with Jack's character. Different strokes I guess.

My favorite thing about the 3D was that it didn't feel like the colors were muted or darker. Most other 3D movies were way too dark and I really didn't want the lighting in Titanic to be ruined but it everything was still great. Especially the private deck scene with Rose and Cal after her excursions below deck. I love the lighting in that scene.
 

Kagari

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You know, there's some scenes were they didn't even convert it to 3D. I kept removing my glasses to check lol
 

Kagari

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By the way, did they add any deleted scenes into this release?

Nope :/


Btw:
Dailies for Wednesday, April 4: 'The Hunger Games' - $4.61M, 'Titanic 3D' - $4.38M, 'Wrath of the Titans' - $2.25M

Just barely missed out being number 1 :)
 
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