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Forza Motorsport 5 at gamescom - Spa confirmed
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http://www.911wheel.de/?q=node/10230
Oh for the love of God MS, please let this happen. For the sake of our sanity please make us happy.
Please!!!?!!?!?!?!?!?
Thanks.
Wait for the next Horizon game. Pretty much the closest we'll get to a new PGR on Xbox.
thanks for your input!
yes, the focus is a turbo engined front wheel driver, that in stock form puts down more than 37kgm of torque in relatively low rpm , so in 1st and 2nd gear it should pull out like you witnessed. this is something i was also able to see from blim's video of focus. (torque steering)
about damage etc, I dont care much about visual damage, I just care that the new tire data are REALISTIC like it was tooted (or at least CAN BE realistic if you switch some switches in a menu), and not "cooked" for something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18hJCh6EnIk
in the couple of faster car videos I saw, I'm not convinced yet that calspan is "the data of the future" like dan says.
again, I am talking specifically about the collisions and loss of traction because of them. I think that if forza becomes too forgiving on car to car crashing, then online will not differ much from that video I posted above.
all other things related to physics seemed ok to me, always judging from the little that I can see through some videos.
about headlights, none where in forza4, all where in horizon, but no flashing etc iirc.
also on the blim video, I saw one opponent with audi s3 with daylights on.
so this and what you say combined, probably mean that working lights of some kind must exist on f5.
thx again!
hmm. I am about to sell my fanatec. if i wait, I sell it for much less in three-four months, and that "upward compatibility" is not a standard yet.
hmmmmmm
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"He is risen"
Is that BADNET?
Big Takeover
Member
That sounds kind of promising. At this point, I don't see the benefit to holding back "no". Goes to my hope that they'd let TM and MC have their day in the sun pre-launch, and quietly allow a way in for exiting wheel owners. Drivers? Break-out box? Even if takes time to implement, much better late than never.
Red Chocobo
Banned
i assume its the background behind sport. is it a guess based on the palms (which could be from any number of locations), or like the spa pic has it been lined up with other pictures from long beach?
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Look at the gameplay. It's quite obvious.
Same terrible lighting from FM4 where car shadows and environment shadows are completely wrong in relation to each other like they are created by completely different light sources.
uh, no. this isnt like that laughably bad CoD ghosts screens. shadows line up fine.
i fully expect you to post that prague screen with all the ms paint red drawing over it that supposedly shows how wrong it is.... dont let me down!
You can see it by the difference in resolution, baked in shadows are limited by the resolution of the texture and in the current state they're pretty blurry. But the car shadows are dynamic and sharp looking. In games with dynamic lighting (GT5, PCars, Horizon) there's no disparity in quality between the two.
antiquegamer
Member
I didn't realize they already announce limited edition for this game! I like that they have Audi on limited edition cover.
no need to quote me. i know it has prebaked lighting and what that means. the most obvious way to know is, it doesnt support dynamic time of day.
about dat calspan... yeah... better it be "WORK IN PROGRESS", else Dan overplayed it waaaayy too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QmPL1VvLE
first turn, ferrari-lambo situation, not impressed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QmPL1VvLE
first turn, ferrari-lambo situation, not impressed
Could be a design decision or time constraint like it is the case with Gran Turismo which has dynamic lighting on some tracks and pre-baked on others.
did they say if the new physics were in this build?
you know they did
why would i ask if i knew
is the calspan stuff supposed to be used for collisions?
hmm... MAYBE because we discussed this on this very topic on the very first page, in which very first page you participated?
its the data partner they say they use.(Pirelli would not do the "extreme tests" that t10 wanted, so calspan, or so they said)op_ivy said:
my problem is not with the collisions themselves (like in graphics etc).
my problem is its outcome is dumped down, the traction supposed to be lost, and clearly it doesnt happen. no problem, no loss of control at all. just a switch of no1 and no2 positions :/
you have a 700Nm car ramming full throttle another car in a not stable position, with 100mph.
and the ramming car's brakes dont light up at all, not until it is time to make the turn.
the way I see it, if its not w.i.p,.................
yes, i know, it still behaves better than mostly all other games, but, I'm not comparing to other games here. (although if memory serves me correctly, forza 2 DID behave better than what i see here on this specific subject)
PS
Guys, I dont think the AI is the problem here. its not the AI. its the (NOT) loss of friction after the collision. "please understand"
gaming_noob
Member
You can pass that off as Forza 4. Very disappointing.
It's Forza alright, the only thing they change from game to game is graphics, the core gameplay has been the same since FM1 and isn't going to change all of a sudden.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Any other games with 100's of licensed cars that do collisions better?
no we didnt lol
gaming_noob
Member
I think I should rephrase what I originally wrote. The shading of the cars is what's holding it back. I just compared this video with Forza 4 videos on Youtube and while there appears to be a significant jump in geometry the lighting/shading of the cars still makes them look last gen.
NullPointer
Member
Thats one Drivatar I don't want in my races.
no, none! absolutely! i added comment for this.
but still, cant help not to be little disappointed.
and I will be angry if this is dumbed down on purpose!
why dont you go back to the first page, and read the first 20 posts?
eso76
Member
i assume its the background behind sport. is it a guess based on the palms (which could be from any number of locations), or like the spa pic has it been lined up with other pictures from long beach?
not the palms, it's the bottom left pic with the buildings that line up with long beach
RobotRocker
Member
That Sport series picture reminds me of the Rio Track in FM1. Could that be making a return?
when you said we i assumed you meant me and you, and i didnt read the posts, crazy i know!
you still did not read the 20 posts i told you, otherwise you would have seen that the 20th post is YOURS
its only 3 days ago. whats wrong with your memory?
Might not be great but that's certainly something someone would do.
I have to say, the AI does behave differently compared to FM4.
I'm sure however that as soon as the Drivatars of better players become populated, we will see much better racing..
you still did not read the 20 posts i told you, otherwise you would have seen that the 20th post is YOURS
its only 3 days ago. whats wrong with your memory?
so? why does that mean i read any of the physics related posts :S
idrinkalone
Banned
I hope there's an option to take out the lens flare and also use a spotify app. Otherwise game look great.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
God rays are an effect. No excuse for them being so badly implemented.
As for FM5.
Inexcusable...
Wondered when someone was going to post about that. That's a known bug in the gamescom demo build and something we're well aware of.
Thank f... god!
but is the (not) loss of friction on collisions a bug? or is it a design choice? because I can see where it makes sense, but i also see what it spoils to do that.
It's a pattern I'm seeing too.
How many positives have been talked about in this thread?
I can assure you not as much as the negativity that's flying around.
I see so much scrutiny it's becoming almost unbearable.
ok, before nitpicking, lets first agree on this:
out of the launch games, forza seems to be the best one.
and i will enclose this statement only to xbox platform, in order to keep it troll free.
after we agree on this, then we can proceed judging/asking for clarification on some details?
(personally i only care about physics & behavior, then no. of tracks)
Hi Helios - thought you were lurking!
Any chance of a response to my question a few pages back regarding wheel development?
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