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The Verge compares PS4/XB1 games (that nasty, awful XB1 sharpening filter at work)

FuturusX

Member
Stop arguing with whizzbang. His eyes and mind are clearly broken. Poorly calibrated TVs will do that to young impressionable minds. If anybody is to blame it's Best Buy.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Not sure how that's possible when everything in the game looks so muddy because of those low res textures. 1080p can only do so much on its own.

Dude, I know bashing is your thing and all but now you're just being silly. If you seriously think the game looks muddy you need to either get a new tv, or get a pair of glasses.
 

Derrick01

Banned
Dude, I know bashing is your thing and all but now you're just being silly. If you seriously think the game looks muddy you need to either get a new tv, or get a pair of glasses.

Or you can just play some games that were actually designed with next gen hardware in mind. The game is using last gen assets with 1080p slapped on in a patch and a couple of other minor effects. It was incredibly jarring playing this after playing a few other games like NBA, Knack and BF4.
 
Guess I'm a sucker for contrast filters, I love the darker one!

If you like that vivid look, there is a semi-intelligent way to do it. But whatever you do don't over blow it. Turning up sharpness too much will cause jaggy edges. Turning up contrast and lowering brightness will make games near unplayable because you won't be able to see shit in darker areas and you'll get massive headaches from the intense over blown whites.

If you like a vivid picture, I say moderately increase your contrast, and moderately decrease your brightness while still maintaining image integrity.

But honestly, please don't fuck with sharpness, turn that shit down to neutral or 0 or default or whatever the fuck. Overly sharpened games just look ass butt fugly.
 
It has nothing to do with comparing identical assets...

Also, those pictures would be super blurry blown up to TV size.
Well, one reason he obviously prefers the XB1 version of AC4 is the greater level of detail present in things like the vegetation. You can see every laboriously crafted branch and flower that almost seem to stick out at you, threatening to poke you in the eye.
 

alatif113

Member
Ok but the picture is nicer to my eyes, (for AC4 that is, Ghosts is an obvious abortion, clearly inferior in all ways)

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which looks better, 1 or 2?
 
Standby that post and will continue to do so indefinitely, people seem to have misinterpreted it for whatever reason but it clearly shows resolution is not everything, incredible detail can be contained within the confines of low resolutions.
The technophiles' obsession with resolution is frankly quite disgusting at this point when it's quite obvious that there are more important things that should be focused on. I'm glad that at least MS are being visionaries in this regard with the XB1 and their labor-of-love filter that greatly improves picture quality.
 

nynt9

Member
I agree with you for the most part sadly that's how game development is.
However, if you look closely at the PS4 and Xbox One shots of Ghosts, you will see on the satelitte there actually is a few extra polygons on a couple of objects :D
THAT stuff makes me happy! The resolution is just a bonus. Definitely the superior version (and the colours / "pop" stuff? Same on both versions too)




I wouldn't want to fuck with my movies / TV - prefer it to be an ingame option :)



Sorry I don't understand?



From where I sit, colours are nicer, items stand out. Is that "pop" ? I guess if you want to coin the term pop, go for it - it works for me in that AC4 shot, sorry and all but it does!

What you don't seem to understand is that resolution lets you see detail. Let's say you have a lot of small detail in your textures. 1080p has about twice the pixels of 720p, which means there are a lot more slots through which you can see the detail. Imagine looking at an image of the same scene taken with identical cameras except one has 2 megapixels and the other has 4 megapixels. Which one will let you see the detail of the world better?
 
The technophiles obsession with resolution is frankly quite disgusting at this point when it's quite obvious that there are more important things that should be focused on. I'm glad that at least MS are being visionaries in this regard with the XB1 and their labor-of-love filter that greatly improves picture quality.

Is this a fever dream I'm having?
 
The technophiles obsession with resolution is frankly quite disgusting at this point when it's quite obvious that there are more important things that should be focused on. I'm glad that at least MS are being visionaries in this regard with the XB1 and their labor-of-love filter that greatly improves picture quality.

What?
 

Replicant

Member
Guess I'm a sucker for contrast filters, I love the darker one!

You gotta be kidding me. The bottom one makes the dark area of the rock hard to see. The top one is nice. I know both are from PS4 but I'm glad PS4 doesn't do that over-contrast/darkening thing.
 

wizzbang

Banned
If you like that vivid look, there is a semi-intelligent way to do it. But whatever you do don't over blow it. Turning up sharpness too much will cause jaggy edges. Turning up contrast and lowering brightness will make games near unplayable because you won't be able to see shit in darker areas and you'll get massive headaches from the intense over blown whites.

If you like a vivid picture, I say moderately increase your contrast, and moderately decrease your brightness while still maintaining image integrity.

But honestly, please don't fuck with sharpness, turn that shit down to neutral or 0 or default or whatever the fuck. Overly sharpened games just look ass butt fugly.

Well here is another conundrum.
I just took the 3 screenshots the thread has provided for AC4 (Xbox, PS4 and PS4 contrasted to hell)
I fired them up on the HTPC on the plasma to see it as I would play it, I liked the PS4 the most, the Xbox One the second most and the PS4 contrasted to hell the least, so yeah lol?
I've got a 24" Dell IPS here and I tell you on the LCD I prefer that Xbox image but as I'd play it, on the PS4 on the Plasma? It's the better shot.

Oh I fired up the 2 COD shots too, I mean god-damn.... that's blatent, .... it genuinely is vastly inferior on the Xbox :/ poor assholes.

Is this a fever dream I'm having?

He's taking the piss, the funny thing is I don't own, nor will I own an Xbox - no intention of getting one.
 
No, I was thinking FM4 looks better than FM5 in that shot as well...

I think it's a combination of:
All the shadows in FM4 while FM5 seemingly has none
The tarmac being more detailed in FM4
And the mountain background in FM5 being shrouded in mist

that makes the FM4 shot look better.

The tarmac isn't more detailed, it's just sharper(in the bad sense) and with bigger chunks. Look at the detail/reflections in the cars(the one on the right is moving and blurred) You can see shadows cast by the cars as well. Not to mention the better side textures and so on. Not the best comparison in any case as it's a time trial vs actual race. Forza 5 is a very looking game outside of some poor crowds if you pause. Cars in particular are a massive upgrade.
 

Joeki11a

Banned
Wizz you wan the cause?

its that idiotic idea that sony puts RGB at Limited by default instead of FULL

these comparisons are all done with default settings aka PS consoles always lose in IQ

go see Ali_A Cod Ghosts comparison, PS4 version looka trash while XB1 looks crisps

look at IGN NBA 2k14 comparison...XB1 clean win.


the display settings are now more hidden than they were on PS3, so this gen PS4 will lose in comparisons


guarantee... you 90% of GAF have the RGB at Limited
 
The usual apologists with their "try hard" load outs (COD terminology),swimming against the tide. Arguing against common sense and moving goalposts in a sad attempt to defend the indefensible.
 
Wizz you wan the cause?

its that idiotic idea that sony puts RGB at Limited by default instead of FULL

these comparisons are all done with default settings aka PS consoles always lose in IQ

go see Ali_A Cod Ghosts comparison, PS4 version looka trash while XB1 looks crisps

look at IGN NBA 2k14 comparison...XB1 clean win.


the display settings are now more hidden than they were on PS3, so this gen PS4 will lose in comparisons

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Robot Pants

Member
Wizz you wan the cause?

its that idiotic idea that sony puts RGB at Limited by default instead of FULL

these comparisons are all done with default settings aka PS consoles always lose in IQ

go see Ali_A Cod Ghosts comparison, PS4 version looka trash while XB1 looks crisps

look at IGN NBA 2k14 comparison...XB1 clean win.


the display settings are now more hidden than they were on PS3, so this gen PS4 will lose in comparisons
...............................WHAT?!
 

wizzbang

Banned
Your comparison would have made more sense if you had the exact same images but at 2 different resolutions.

Probably. My point was that at 1920x1080, you can do a hell of a lot as an output resolution. (specifically for TV / Games) - I must admit on a PC, we could do with about 50% more pixels for text and stuff.

The usual apologists with their "try hard" load outs (COD terminology),swimming against the tide. Arguing against common sense and moving goalposts in a sad attempt to defend the indefensible.

Who are the usual apologists?
 

tfur

Member
The technophiles obsession with resolution is frankly quite disgusting at this point when it's quite obvious that there are more important things that should be focused on. I'm glad that at least MS are being visionaries in this regard with the XB1 and their labor-of-love filter that greatly improves picture quality.

I think I am having a holiday induced tryptophan coma.
 
Not sure how that's possible when everything in the game looks so muddy because of those low res textures. 1080p can only do so much on its own.

Certain textures indeed look very PS3 but AC4 can definitely look great at times. I've been finding myself pretty impressed with some of the scenery, especially with the rain/lightning effects going off. Or maybe I just had way lower expectations because A) cross-gen yearly title and B) Ubisoft
 

Salex_

Member
Wizz you wan the cause?

its that idiotic idea that sony puts RGB at Limited by default instead of FULL

these comparisons are all done with default settings aka PS consoles always lose in IQ

go see Ali_A Cod Ghosts comparison, PS4 version looka trash while XB1 looks crisps

look at IGN NBA 2k14 comparison...XB1 clean win.


the display settings are now more hidden than they were on PS3, so this gen PS4 will lose in comparisons

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Ricky_R

Member
Wizz you wan the cause?

its that idiotic idea that sony puts RGB at Limited by default instead of FULL

these comparisons are all done with default settings aka PS consoles always lose in IQ

go see Ali_A Cod Ghosts comparison, PS4 version looka trash while XB1 looks crisps

look at IGN NBA 2k14 comparison...XB1 clean win.


the display settings are now more hidden than they were on PS3, so this gen PS4 will lose in comparisons


guarantee... you 90% of GAF have the RGB at Limited

haha who are you mocking? Link me.
 

jayu26

Member
Wizz you wan the cause?

its that idiotic idea that sony puts RGB at Limited by default instead of FULL

these comparisons are all done with default settings aka PS consoles always lose in IQ

go see Ali_A Cod Ghosts comparison, PS4 version looka trash while XB1 looks crisps

look at IGN NBA 2k14 comparison...XB1 clean win.


the display settings are now more hidden than they were on PS3, so this gen PS4 will lose in comparisons


guarantee... you 90% of GAF have the RGB at Limited
Dat fuck!?
 

Joeki11a

Banned
...............................WHAT?!

RGB Full its the way to go, not sure what TVyou have but mine supports RGB FULL and I saw the differences

all gen long, first thing I did when I gor PS4 was find the RGB settings and set it to Full, the IQ got a 10000% boost.
 

kmg90

Member
Did this thread get invaded by misterxmedia or something? Some posts read like his writing style.

*highlights and right click's unknown name in message and initiates google search, reads first few results, closes tab few seconds later*

Who... what.... Must forget everything...
 

Chobel

Member
Wizz you wan the cause?

its that idiotic idea that sony puts RGB at Limited by default instead of FULL

these comparisons are all done with default settings aka PS consoles always lose in IQ

go see Ali_A Cod Ghosts comparison, PS4 version looka trash while XB1 looks crisps

look at IGN NBA 2k14 comparison...XB1 clean win.


the display settings are now more hidden than they were on PS3, so this gen PS4 will lose in comparisons


guarantee... you 90% of GAF have the RGB at Limited

Is this some kink of inside joke that I'm not aware off?
 

jayu26

Member
*highlights and right click's unknown name in message and initiates google search, reads first few results, closes tab few seconds later*

Who... what.... Must forget everything...

If you really want to have a laugh, you should go read the comments section in his/her blog...
 
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