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Batman [Mafia] |OT| The mafia game Gafia deserves , but not the one it needs

Trigger

Member
Why is everyone voting for Mazre? Is it just his inactivity?

I'm not really content with his contributions to town so far. Pop's post is fine, for example, even if he hasn't been posting much. I have something to read and go through. Not so much with Mazre.
 
He changed his vote to Karu without saying anything.

Theory: he came back, saw shit stacked against him, threw out a vote to cause confusion and WIFOM when he flips scum.
 

Fireblend

Banned
What even is going on here. Do you guys need me for something or is it all smooth sailing from here? I'll just intervene in case of a tie I guess.
 

roytheone

Member
Vote count:

coppanuva (0)
sorian 907 (1024)
fireblend 1440 (1575)
sorian 1459 (1752)

camjo-z (3)
launchpadmcq 909 (1247)
mazre 1535 (1810)
karkador 1605
xamtheking 1640 (1784)
coppanuva 1763
xamtheking 1787

fluxwavez (0)
fireblend 914 (1440)
xamtheking 1101 (1493)
weemadarthur 1160 (1229)
trigger 1171 (1254)

pop-o-matic ()
fluxwavez 917

karu (2)
sorian 1024 (1232)
sorian 1752
mazre 1810

karkador (0)
sorian 1232 (1329)
camjo-z 1259 (1392)
tl21xx 1261 (1563)

sorian (1)
karkador 1246 (1509)
launchpadmcq 1247 (1453)
pop-o-matic 1808

mazre (6)
weemadarthur 1307
trigger 1327
xamtheking 1493 (1640)
ty4on 1558
tl21xx 1581
karu 1609
launchpadmcq 1746
xamtheking 1784 (1787)

tl21xx (0)
sorian 1329 (1329)
sorian 1451 (1459)

ty4on (0)
sorian 1329 (1451)

launchpadmcq (1)
camjo-z 1392

xamtheking (0)
launchpadmcq 1453 (1722)

trigger (1)
karkador 1509 (1605)
fireblend 1575

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Sorian

Banned
Did anyone defend Mazre?

I think this is town Mazre so me I guess. He isn't trying to placate anyone, no one is really trying to defend him (except me), and town Mazre acts scummy, this became a talking point in archer near the end. Looks the same to me.
 
The crux here is that I was one of the first to point out why Sky could have been killed based on the bat computer findings? Yeah, I can't defend against that because it's true. If that's all you really have on the vote then I don't know what to say otherwise. You say that my activity makes you annoyed at dealing with me but that's not indicative of my alignment here. Otherwise, I posted a theory that makes a lot of sense to me and in voting how you have, it obviously makes sense to you too. I am one of those names so crossing me off isn't the end of the world aside from all I can really say is that it would be a mislynch. I see you've already given yourself the out to switch to Karu though, convenient.

I'll be honest and say that the biggest non-computer thing that makes me think there's a chance Karu's scum is that you're pushing for a lynch on him. If you bus him it'll just make you look all that much townier, especially since, if you wanted to test the idea that scum is still on the comp bold list, you could go and board the Mazre train with everyone else.
 

Sorian

Banned
I'll be honest and say that the biggest non-computer thing that makes me think there's a chance Karu's scum is that you're pushing for a lynch on him. If you bus him it'll just make you look all that much townier, especially since, if you wanted to test the idea that scum is still on the comp bold list, you could go and board the Mazre train with everyone else.

I could go on board the Mazre train and with how it stands, I think the Mazre train is leaving the station with or without me but with a list of three that I think has scum on it, I know it's not me which leaves me with two. If I've been harping on one for being scum trying to play the inactive card and stumbling on themselves on a day where we have a claim out that scum chat is turned off and the other reads as easy scapegoat, I'm going to push for the one I find scummy, I'm not going to just sheep the majority because it tests one of my theories when I can push for the other and test two theories instead.
 

El Topo

Member
I don't feel happy about the Mazre lynch train, but I feel it is a bit similar to how people ganged up on me last time. I think should he flip town, we should definitely look for similarities in behavior.

I'll vote for Fireblend, who somehow has managed to hit the perfect sweet spot for me. He reminds me of Kyanrute in Love Boat, so I'll go with my gut this time.
VOTE: Fireblend
 
I don't feel happy about the Mazre lynch train, but I feel it is a bit similar to how people ganged up on me last time. I think should he flip town, we should definitely look for similarities in behavior.

I'll vote for Fireblend, who somehow has managed to hit the perfect sweet spot for me. He reminds me of Kyanrute in Love Boat, so I'll go with my gut this time.
VOTE: Fireblend
Right because your gut has been on point this game and you have made sure to fully process every piece of information given to you this game
 

Sorian

Banned
So, what do you guys think of Trigger?

My thoughts are about the same as the last time I commented on him:

As far as Trigger goes, don't anticipate me changing my vote there. I'm not feeling that lynch. Call it gut but I've led a lynch on town Trigger before, his attitude towards weemad earlier to the stalking felt exactly the same. Trigger seems to be very tone deaf to scummy things, reminds me of StarSketch a bit in that regard. There are better targets.

If anything, he is a little bit better because I think suspicion on him didn't really go anywhere and he could have just sunk back into the background but he's been proactive the last few hours commenting a lot on both Xam's claim and the recent back and forth on Launch's vote thing.
 
The Mazre / Sorian voting is strange to me.

Mazre and Sorian both vote Karu, who has nowhere near enough votes to be in danger making it a possible safe scum-on-scum vote. Sorian has been defending Mazre, who has apparently not been defending himself (I admittedly have not gone back to verify it), so Mazre removes his vote on Karu and votes Sorian ... because Sorian is defending him?
 

Mazre

Member
Some parting thoughts-

Batcomputer math only holds if it's a random list.

Sorian should get no positive town credit when I flip.

Trigger is the scummiest person actively voting for me.

Town is full of cowards hiding behind vigilantes in masks. Ra's al ghul had the right idea, burn it all down and start over.
 

Sorian

Banned
The Mazre / Sorian voting is strange to me.

Mazre and Sorian both vote Karu, who has nowhere near enough votes to be in danger making it a possible safe scum-on-scum vote. Sorian has been defending Mazre, who has apparently not been defending himself (I admittedly have not gone back to verify it), so Mazre removes his vote on Karu and votes Sorian ... because Sorian is defending him?

The logic seems to be that I am scum and would thus know that Mazre will not flip scum and then I can say "I told you so!" later. Which is an ok theory I guess except I'm not defending Mazre so much as trying to hook votes somewhere else. I do think Mazre is a mislynch and I think there are better uses of our time than this extremely easy vote that no one is really trying to stop.
 

roytheone

Member
Vote count:

coppanuva (0)
sorian 907 (1024)
fireblend 1440 (1575)
sorian 1459 (1752)

camjo-z (3)
launchpadmcq 909 (1247)
mazre 1535 (1810)
karkador 1605
xamtheking 1640 (1784)
coppanuva 1763
xamtheking 1787

fluxwavez (0)
fireblend 914 (1440)
xamtheking 1101 (1493)
weemadarthur 1160 (1229)
trigger 1171 (1254)

pop-o-matic (1)
fluxwavez 917

karu (1)
sorian 1024 (1232)
sorian 1752
mazre 1810 (1866)

karkador (0)
sorian 1232 (1329)
camjo-z 1259 (1392)
tl21xx 1261 (1563)

sorian (2)
karkador 1246 (1509)
launchpadmcq 1247 (1453)
pop-o-matic 1808
mazre 1866

mazre (6)
weemadarthur 1307
trigger 1327
xamtheking 1493 (1640)
ty4on 1558
tl21xx 1581
karu 1609
launchpadmcq 1746
xamtheking 1784 (1787)

tl21xx (0)
sorian 1329 (1329)
sorian 1451 (1459)

ty4on (0)
sorian 1329 (1451)

launchpadmcq (1)
camjo-z 1392

xamtheking (0)
launchpadmcq 1453 (1722)

trigger (1)
karkador 1509 (1605)
fireblend 1575

fireblend (1)
el topo
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